EzekelRAGE
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What was worse J.Cole apologizing or Drake having ghost writers.
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Nah Drake lying too though. He passing off other people's work as his own. That's a lie. And he being fake too claiming he is the greatest.It's not just what Cole did, it's how he did it. He could've easily:
1) not made a record
2) made a record in the style of False Prophets where he didn't diss so much as he took the high road
3) stood 10 toes down on what he said
4) blown it off nonchalantly like "man, I really aint worried bout that shyt, it's whatever, yall know how I rock, we off that"
5) keep the energy he had BUT chastise Kendrick for starting the shyt like "we sposeta be brothers man, idk what your problem is but we ain't gotta do it like this"
6) not wasted 87% of his bars over the last 5 years talking about how nice he is, how he's a GOAT, how he's killing everybody, etc. in the first place
Or a bunch of other ways this could've played out.
He instead decided to gas a nikka up who said "fukk your record, hope you got guns, fukk associating us together, I'm better than you" while he couldn't sleep for saying "your last album was wack, you don't drop often, and you wanna diss me now that I've gotten more attention" then said if he diss him again he's gonna take it on the chin
Drake gets knocked out of GOAT contention for making wack ass records in the first place, whether he wrote them or not. Not excusing the ghostwriting, but until I hear one of the many reference leaks be for a REAL record, I'm gonna assume he writes the real raps and pulls that bullshyt for sales.
Drake saying any variation of "I'm nice with the pen" COULD still be true....
Cole saying "yall don't want smoke wit me.... I'm not duckin no 1 on 1s" is a MUHFUKKIN LIE.
What Cole did is clown shyt but his rhymes are still his own. His work is his own. Backing down after dropping the diss was dumb, but at least he is honest about how he feels. And at least he wrote his shyt.
You giving Drake a major pass on the ghostwriting. You are saying he only had people writing the hits but he pens the other stuff. Drake himself hasn't even said that. You just making that up. Until he comes out and clarifies that himself, everything is in question. Also, who is Drake without the hits? Thats what he is known for.
If Drake came out and said "yeah I don't write my rhymes" most people would accept it and put him with Kanye, Puff and Eazy and not have an issue. But right now he is still acting like we don't know he uses ghostwriters.
Hell, even in this battle that is taking place, we don't even know if he is the one writing the disses. That is way more impactful in the long run than Cole bowing out of a battle with an MC he has a personal relationship with and clearly respects.
Sabretooth
Pro
The culture of this genre is cooked. The more time passes the more "grace"/excuses/passes are given to the face of the genre which means it doesn't matter for those coming up.
Hip Hop is indiscernible from every other genre atp since none of the core principles matter. Always exceptions being made lol.
Then this board and other folks have the nerve to hate on mfs like Playboi Carti. Playboi Carti at least write his own raps lmfao
Hip Hop is indiscernible from every other genre atp since none of the core principles matter. Always exceptions being made lol.
Then this board and other folks have the nerve to hate on mfs like Playboi Carti. Playboi Carti at least write his own raps lmfao
Playaz Eyez
Veteran
R&B and country are genres you SHOULD have frequent collaborative efforts on. Singers in general have that grace cause it simply takes a whole like more to do that compared to rapping. Vocal coaching and all that type of stuff. If you’re considered a top tier rapper, you should be able to come with pure fire with just you, a pen and paper (or your iPhone and keystrokes)
Professor K.
rap game Paul Millsap
It's not about giving him a pass. I've said multiple times that he's disqualified from GOAT conversations too. Difference is, he's out for cheating the system vs bytching up when it mattered most. Deflategate is an afterthought to Tom Brady's legacy while throwing up on the sidelines before the final drive in the Super Bowl is damn near all Donofthem McSwagb is known for now.
Don't get me wrong brehs, Drake will NEVER have my respect again as an MC. But I can at least suspend disbelief long enough to enjoy his music still. I can't even bring myself to listen to Cole talk about sending nikkas to meet the reaper on every feature or whatever the fukk he be saying anymore because I know that's just as much if not more of a lie than anything Drake or his writers have ever said. When it comes to having the heart of an MC, both them nikkas equally fraudulent, just in different ways
people who passively say they done shyt just to give themselves a pat on the back on the same verse without real crowd adulation or giving us time to realize what they did always gets on my nerves...talking down on the audience like, get it? and then explain the bar mid-rhyming appeal to only 10 year olds...they are in the same boat when they started their career dumbing down their lyrics and catering PG-13 content to female teenagers. doesn't matter who is using ghostwriters, their whole premise of treating their target audience like idiots to entertain and grab attention spans made me realize their whole strategy is to sell out and are insecure cornballs from the gate, reframing relatable stories in songs with their half baked "life lessons" babble by arguing both sides without a definite resolution to dupe a whole generation into thinking like them -- every time you play their songs, they just have shyt linger unresolved or gaslight a situation into completely something else, and their male audience will eventually like what the females are listening to
biz markie wrote none of his biggest hits. dr dre wrote none of his hits. still goats of the hip hop and not an issue. ghost writing is a well known facet of hip hop. fact. there are rules though...
it's when you have a gw, and you're not an authentic part of the culture, and you front like you are in your raps. that's a problem. we knew that about drake a decade ago and he's still here.
what i have never seen though...what cole
azz did. who else has claimed to be the best and then backed out of a good natured battle like that? dude was damn near in tears. *kobe soft gif*
it's when you have a gw, and you're not an authentic part of the culture, and you front like you are in your raps. that's a problem. we knew that about drake a decade ago and he's still here.
what i have never seen though...what cole
azz did. who else has claimed to be the best and then backed out of a good natured battle like that? dude was damn near in tears. *kobe soft gif*
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Superstar
"I'm not giving him a pass" "I can at least suspend disbelief long enough to enjoy his music"It's not about giving him a pass. I've said multiple times that he's disqualified from GOAT conversations too. Difference is, he's out for cheating the system vs bytching up when it mattered most. Deflategate is an afterthought to Tom Brady's legacy while throwing up on the sidelines before the final drive in the Super Bowl is damn near all Donofthem McSwagb is known for now.
Don't get me wrong brehs, Drake will NEVER have my respect again as an MC. But I can at least suspend disbelief long enough to enjoy his music still. I can't even bring myself to listen to Cole talk about sending nikkas to meet the reaper on every feature or whatever the fukk he be saying anymore because I know that's just as much if not more of a lie than anything Drake or his writers have ever said. When it comes to having the heart of an MC, both them nikkas equally fraudulent, just in different ways
You are absolutely giving Drake a pass.
Professor K.
rap game Paul Millsap
So listening to someone is equal to giving a pass? If anyone ever listen to Cole again then they giving him a pass for his heart pumping kool-aid?
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Superstar
Wayne claimed to be the hottest hot boy and was sending shots on 500 Degreez, Juve dropped "A hoe" on 600 Degreez and dissed the fukk outta Wayne, Wayne responded with "I Miss My Dogs"biz markie wrote none of his biggest hits. dr dre wrote none of his hits. still goats of the hip hop and not an issue. ghost writing is a well known facet of hip hop. fact. there are rules though...
it's when you have a gw, and you're not an authentic part of the culture, and you front like you are in your raps. that's a problem. we knew that about drake a decade ago and he's still here.
what i have never seen though...what cole
Cole ain't the first to back out of a battle.
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Superstar
Why are you willing to suspend disbelief and listen to Drake but not suspend disbelief and listen to Cole? You yourself just said they are "equally fraudulent", that's your words. So why you giving one a pass and not the other?So listening to someone is equal to giving a pass? If anyone ever listen to Cole again then they giving him a pass for his heart pumping kool-aid?
