What Made Marlo Stanfield's Crew So Dangerous (The Wire)

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Deangelo would have went out like Bodie, pay attention(Suge Knight Voice).........................
u a disrespectful lil nygga ... dont u dare ever compare bodie to deangelo ... bodie was a soldier and died like one .. on his corner ... knew he was a pawn but fukking rode out.

Deangelo was a snytch ready to flip. Disloyal nygga even ready to rat out his uncle who got him out of jail after he murked a nygga cuz he was sensitive.

cmon nygga! dont ever mention hoe ass nyggas with someone who stood for something.
 

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Nah the most ruthless nikka on the show was Joe, Joe meddled in affairs for no reason, just cause.....................Marlo later understood Joe had the crown, understanding he was no different than him

Joe was the reason Stringer turned on Avon, he was the reason Omar got popped, which caused Stringer to get murked, he was the reason Omar and Marlo was at it, and the idea of the co-op was simply a way for Joe to have every gangsta in the city under his thumb, while sitting on throne grandstanding that only he had the connect, the show aint make things subtle, but Joe had the crown, the only nikka Joe didn't want to cross directly was Avon.................

SN: The show came full circle around series end, all the work Joe went about hiding the connect and Avon had the plug sitting and waiting, and his main hitter slim was a Avon solider, that was a way of showing Avon would always be the man...He could of murked Marlo during visitation and no one would knew what the fukk happened to Marlo, a small jab to let Marlo know Avon would always be Avon.......Also Avon only asking for little paper showed that he aint have plans of being in jail for he was already working on a way out.....................
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u a disrespectful lil nygga ... dont u dare ever compare bodie to deangelo ... bodie was a soldier and died like one .. on his corner ... knew he was a pawn but fukking rode out.

Deangelo was a snytch ready to flip. Disloyal nygga even ready to rat out his uncle who got him out of jail after he murked a nygga cuz he was sensitive.

cmon nygga! dont ever mention hoe ass nyggas with someone who stood for something.
Bodie snitched too it's why he got murked....................As far as his death he killed himself just as De did, he knew the cost.................


Let me break this down to you though by the time the show came on Deangelo was where Bodie was at season 4, he understood the he was a pond in the game like Deangelo tried to school him on when he was younger, with all his peers dead or in jail.............


As far as toughness no comparison Bodie was certified and would shoot to hold his corner, which made him be Stringer's number 2 during season 2/3, but as far the similarities and being tired and burnt out in the game, Bodie finally understood a Deangelo, rather than making fun of him like he did when he was younger..............
 
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Alot of nikkas is saying luck but i dont think luck when i think of marlo.What made Marlo a threat was the fact that son was fearless,he had more audacity than anything.he was stepping on toes and daring nikkas to pop off.he was bold and ambitious.wanted that top spot and bolgarded nikkas for it.he caught nikkas off gaurd by always playing offense.for example;while avon plotting how he gonna use this broad to set up marlo, marlo already done smoked the bytch.and his crew was following his lead even down to the lil nikkas.when bodie came thru trying to talk it out them lil nikkas aint even acknowledge him.marlo wasnt kissing no rings or waiting in line.hands down the illest nikka on there.

i wont even mention how he from bk and he haitian:sas1:
 

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Marlo's rise was the most unrealistic thing on that show.

huh? What was unrealistic about it?

Marlo had already been running those corners for years. The Barksdales ran the Pit and the Towers (Towers where they generated their most money), once the towers got blown up, they tried to move to the streets but Marlo had already been there for a long time. They tried to infiltrate on Marlo's turf and by then the Barksdales were living off their rep because their muscle was either dead or in jail by the time.

And Marlo like most characters are based off a real person. He's based off Timmirror Stanfield.
 

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huh? What was unrealistic about it?

Marlo had already been running those corners for years. The Barksdales ran the Pit and the Towers (Towers where they generated their most money), once the towers got blown up, they tried to move to the streets but Marlo had already been there for a long time. They tried to infiltrate on Marlo's turf and by then the Barksdales were living off their rep because their muscle was either dead or in jail by the time.

And Marlo like most characters are based off a real person. He's based off Timmirror Stanfield.

Unrealistic in that Prop Joe would never be dumb enough to outline his entire operation to a young wolf like Marlo. Unrealistic in that as cautious as Vondas Spiros/The Greek was in season 2 they'd never work with a random guy off the street like Marlo just because he brought them money.

Marlo was meant to be "that dude" so the writers made it happen. It didn't seem natural at all. They even made the cops at their lowest point during his rise to power so he'd be virtually unopposed.

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Stanfield and Boardley Investigations

Stanfield Investigation

The investigative process—incorporating controlled arrests, random interviews, and grand jury investigations—was developed during the 1986 Timmirror Stanfield homicide investigation. Stanfield, a classic gang leader, was 25 years old when he was indicted. He headed a drug gang of more than 50 members that controlled South Baltimore's Westport area and West Baltimore's Murphy Homes housing project. The gang was extremely violent and had grown so bold that it denied postal workers access to Westport on their daily rounds.

The gang was responsible for several murders, and the investigation focused on four of the murders that occurred at the 725 George Street highrise. Former Maryland State Attorney Kurt Schmoke authorized Assistant State Attorney Howard Gersh to use a special grand jury to investigate the gang. Approximately 40 gang members and other neighborhood witnesses testified before the panel. Within 5 months, the four cases were prepared for trial, with 15 gang members ready to testify against Stanfield. Three of the cases were presented for prosecution, and convictions were secured against the nucleus of the gang.

Boardley Investigation

With certain modifications and on a larger scale, the investigative process developed in the Stanfield case was used in the Boardley investigation with equally impressive results. Warren Boardley, Nadir Abdullah, and Christopher Burrows controlled a vast drug distribution network centered in the Lexington Terrace/Poe Homes housing project and spreading throughout the West Baltimore and Cherry Hill areas of the city. The gang employed four full-time gunmen and used eight others, all hired by contract.

The scope of this investigation was broader than the Stanfield investigation in that it sought to employ the federal Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act statute, which used murder, narcotics trafficking, and money laundering as the predicated crimes. The results were similarly impressive. Several members turned against the gang nucleus, even though the core group was not incarcerated while the grand jury was sitting.

The investigative process employed in the Boardley investigation works because of the way in which each gang member is bonded to the gang. In areas where gangs flourish, gang membership to achieve status and money is an accepted norm, like pursuing an education, a job, or sports. Consequently, youth with minimal or no criminal tendencies are drawn to gangs and fall under the tutelage of gang leaders. Most members do not comprehend the scope of the gang's lawlessness and are not prepared for the types of crime assigned to them. The degree of adaptation or corruption depends on the individual's proclivity for crime. The assignment to commit a criminal act occurs before the subject is able to make an intelligent choice. Therefore, the subject becomes committed to the gang despite strong reservations that may linger.

The Stanfield investigation was developed and prosecuted by the state. The Boardley investigation was a joint effort by state and federal authorities. Both investigations were successful, and both approaches have their merits. A joint investigation takes advantage of the strengths of each. A major weakness, highlighted in the Boardley investigation, is the lack of clearly established lines of responsibility among the federal and local participants.

Investigations' Conclusions

From the evidence gathered in the Stanfield and Boardley investigations, it appears that only a few members adopted the violent mentality of the core group. The majority of gang members appear to be trapped between their essentially good upbringing and their fear of the gang's violence. Those members who are uncertain and confused are the ones who the investigators target. The process proposes to resolve a subject's conflicts by offering a safe alternative to the gang—cooperation with government officials.

The investigative strategy achieves its primary goals. This process disempowers the leader, disrupts the integrity of the gang, and generates new evidence that leads to successful prosecutions of the gang's nucleus. The investigative process has a significant impact on both those who cooperate and those who are prosecuted. Based on 1998 data, the Murphy Homes area—formerly known as the Murder Homes—has not experienced new gang or gang-related murders. Drug dealing still exists in the neighborhood, but not with the degree of organization or violence imposed by the former gang.

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interesting either. did a little bit of research on the whole timmirror stanfield shyt. he basically was some gang leader that had a half brother named marlow bates, who was allegedly his trigger man along with some other dude. they were charged and convicted of 3 murders in some housing project in baltimore. supposedly, they were warring with avon barksdale, who made that documentary awhile back.

however, the basis of the character from marlo stanfield's character was a guy called linwood "rudy" williams, who folks feared because he was a ruthless sociopath that would kill his close associates. from the murder of the security guard in season 4 is actually based off of some shyt involving that case.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/19...ichard-iii-tragedy-of-richard-rudy-williams/2

http://newspaperarchive.com/us/maryland/cumberland/cumberland-evening-times/1986/07-01/page-2

i love the wire BUT real talk, ain't nothing cool about that drug dealing, violent shyt though. sometimes, i think people look at the show in the rap community look at the shyt in the wrong context just like the whole gangster rap, "about that life" thing especially looking at the communities that they held under siege. all of those guys are doing life by the way. the avon guy just got sent back to prison for being involved in some heroin conspiracy though he was out of prison for awhile.
 
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Unrealistic in that Prop Joe would never be dumb enough to outline his entire operation to a young wolf like Marlo. Unrealistic in that as cautious as Vondas Spiros/The Greek was in season 2 they'd never work with a random guy off the street like Marlo just because he brought them money.

Marlo was meant to be "that dude" so the writers made it happen. It didn't seem natural at all. They even made the cops at their lowest point during his rise to power so he'd be virtually unopposed.

Fred.


Yeah, no, I don't buy any of that as unrealistic

1) Prop Joe took Marlo under his wing because he always tried to build a bond with him because he knew how much power he wielded. He thought if he got in his good graces he could mold him into what he wanted to be and be loyal to him. Marlo was only loyal to himself at the end

2) The Greeks did business with Marlo because they knew he was going to kill Prop Joe anyway and he was going to be their new connection to bring in shipments to Baltimore. He wasn't some random guy off the street, they knew his connection to Prop Joe and they gave him the okay to kill Joe so they could do business because they always knew Joe was weak. They weren't going to give up on the entire town because Prop Joe wasn't gonna survive, so they went with the new number 1 guy. They weren't loyal to Joe to the extent they'd ever let him interfere with their business decisions. They liked him a lot and did business with him because he kept a low profile but if he's gonna be out of the picture they still needed to bring in product and Marlo was running both the East and West side at this point. There were no other options to do business with.

3) The police department was dysfunctional since the first episode. That has nothing to do with making it easier for Marlo. They've always been in a state of flux, full of political games being played
 

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interesting either. did a little bit of research on the whole timmirror stanfield shyt. he basically was some gang leader that had a half brother named marlow bates, who was allegedly his trigger man along with some other dude. they were charged and convicted of 3 murders in some housing project in baltimore. supposedly, they were warring with avon barksdale, who made that documentary awhile back.

however, the basis of the character from marlo stanfield's character was a guy called linwood "rudy" williams, who folks feared because he was a ruthless sociopath that would kill his close associates. from the murder of the security guard in season 4 is actually based off of some shyt involving that case.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/19...ichard-iii-tragedy-of-richard-rudy-williams/2

http://newspaperarchive.com/us/maryland/cumberland/cumberland-evening-times/1986/07-01/page-2

i love the wire BUT real talk, ain't nothing cool about that drug dealing, violent shyt though. sometimes, i think people look at the show in the rap community look at the shyt in the wrong context just like the whole gangster rap, "about that life" thing especially looking at the communities that they held under siege. all of those guys are doing life by the way. the avon guy just got sent back to prison for being involved in some heroin conspiracy though he was out of prison for awhile.

The wire was far more than just violent street shyt. Anyone who only got that out of it probably shouldn't be watching TV period.
 

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Nah the most ruthless nikka on the show was Joe, Joe meddled in affairs for no reason, just cause.....................Marlo later understood Joe had the crown, understanding he was no different than him

Joe was the reason Stringer turned on Avon, he was the reason Omar got popped, which caused Stringer to get murked, he was the reason Omar and Marlo was at it, and the idea of the co-op was simply a way for Joe to have every gangsta in the city under his thumb, while sitting on throne grandstanding that only he had the connect, the show aint make things subtle, but Joe had the crown, the only nikka Joe didn't want to cross directly was Avon.................

SN: The show came full circle around series end, all the work Joe went about hiding the connect and Avon had the plug sitting and waiting, and his main hitter slim was a Avon solider, that was a way of showing Avon would always be the man...He could of murked Marlo during visitation and no one would knew what the fukk happened to Marlo, a small jab to let Marlo know Avon would always be Avon.......Also Avon only asking for little paper showed that he aint have plans of being in jail for he was already working on a way out.....................
This sounds good but Avon was done, he was on his second strike, he had nothing left but his name and maybe some out of state connects. Daniels and his crew destroyed his organization to the core. If he got out , so what? You think he would risk a third strike and be in prison forever ? The most he could do would be to leave the country and set up shop in the islands , get a real market , he was done in Baltimore . Also he asked for short money for his sister who you remember was taking care of Bey family at the time. She said the money had run out and that she didn't care of Bey spoke since he didn't know what she knew. He was broke all he did was take care of his sister , he was not playing a mastermind who would have the town on lock again. Also the Greek would never work with a guy that hot. The base case for him would be in another country, coming home and you got Slim in charge now, you think he just going to step aside now Avon home again or the Co-op bowing down? Avon was a great character but he was no Vonda's or Greek kingpin.
 
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