What Happens If Biafra Gains Its Independence From Nigeria?

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Ha! Up till now you can't even be sure you have a majority. Once again thenreferendum isn't happening because a majority of Igbos themselves don't support Biafra. You say your people don't do hero worship?


Bottom line, you initially ignored and ran away from my assertion that Igboland was filthy and polluted. Now your saying it's polluted not filthy. No problem, I hear ya as long as your on record acknowledging it. Oh and I wonder why you would compare pollution and trash accumulation from commercial activities that Igbos control to industrial wastage pollution caused from commercial activities of International Oil companies that we Ogonis DO NOT control?

Remember you claimed Rivers State was the ONLY state that can build federal roads. No matter how much you try to qualify, you were WRONG. Admit it.

Its very convenient for you to state that Igbos have effective leadership when it comes to education and hunger. But governance is more than that, and you constantly gives excuses as to why the environment is filthy and polluted or why the roads are terrible. If your leadership is so effective why do you ignore them when they say BIAFRA ain't happening?

Glad you agree with me that commercial activities are self inflicted. Why can't y'all simply clean up after yourselves??? Biafra gonna be a garbage mans paradise :mjlol:

All states may have poor tax collect mechanism but 2 of your states are among the WORST. Not a good look breh.... It has everything to do with poor leadership, that point keeps flying over your head.

So basically because your states don't know how to generate revenue internally and you can't explain why you're not going to answer the question because you want me to provide you more information on the viability of the states??:deadmanny:

The Revenue allocation inequity has more to do with politics than anything else. The Niger delta gets it's allocation due to the fact that we are the treasure basin of the country. I can admit our funds are mismanaged resulting in non payment of salaries. But in regards to infrastructure I have to correct you because roads, bridges, schools and hospitals have been a cornerstone of the Rivers administrations for the past 8 years. The Niger Deltans don't wait for handouts we expect to receive in proportion to what we contribute, which is more than any state in Igboland. Unlike Igbos we're the ones who have been cheated and deserve our own country. Nnamdi Kanu realizes this which is why he desperately NEEDS the Niger Delta to be a part of Biafra. If your region is such a pillar of development, why do your people leave in such high numbers? Wouldn't it be logical to stay in this utopia of education? The average Igboman will rather ply his trade in Port Harcourt or Kano than Umahia or Awka. Google RSSDA OR NDDC. The amount of Igbos that claim Rivers residency just to be able to get an overseas scholarship that our government provides to its people is make your head spin. High education indeed. Also Nigeria didn't give away bakassi it followed the international court of justices ruling. Biafra might find the same justice if it goes that route, but it won't because it doesn't have the majority of support needed.

If you were living better than us why are you forcing us to join Biafra after we've rejected you? Why is the fate of Biafra only predicated on the inclusion of Niger Delta states? What do you need us for? Nnamdi Kanu said it himself, but I should listen to you over him right..:mjlol:

And since you don't believe that I'm Ogoni allow me to take you up on YOUR offer to meet so you can introduce me to Ogoni elders.:heh: I go to Ogoniland at least 3 times a month but because of your generous offer I'm willing to meet you anytime this week!:demonic: Since you claim to be fron Anambra PM me your number here in Nigeria and we can set it up. I'll assume that you either are in Rivers State or at least come to Rivers state so coming here to meet me shouldn't be a problem seeing that you offered. Actions speak louder than words so I do hope to hear from you so we can both show our receipts. For you to claim that you travel more than me is silly, just hit me up as I said so you can put your money where your mouth is.
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You gotta be a regular on nairaland.

I just clicked on nairaland and saw this news-

This is a meeting about bokoharam suicide bombers in the north. Did you even click the article?

I don't use Nairaland. Too much anti-Igbo prejudice.

Doubtful that the Nigerian Army/Osinbajo care about suicide bombers. They know they lack the tactics to deal with them. Do you still believe the Nigerian govt/media?
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You gotta be a regular on nairaland.

I just clicked on nairaland and saw this news-

This is a meeting about bokoharam suicide bombers in the north. Did you even click the article?

Right! The Military chiefs were given a 40 day directive to capture Shekau the boko haram leader.

Nigerian army chief gives ultimatum for Shekau’s capture

The reason is to start the realignment of Military forces to focus on an unnamed external threat (Cameroon). People got they facts all twisted.

War is imminemt. Nigeria’s military chiefs gives theater Army and Air Force commanders 40 day ultimatum to capture Shekau.
 

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Right! The Military chiefs were given a 40 day directive to capture Shekau the boko haram leader. The reason is to start the realignment of Military forces to focus on an unnamed external threat (Cameroon). People got they facts all twisted.

Lol

Nigeria can't focus on Cameroon. They need Cameroon/France to put pressure on Boko Haram. The last time Nigeria sabre rattled against Cameroon, France threatened to level Kano.

Y'all think Nigeria is mighty don't you
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Nigeria can't focus on Cameroon. They need Cameroon/France to put pressure on Boko Haram. The last time Nigeria sabre rattled against Cameroon, France threatened to level Kano.

Y'all think Nigeria is mighty don't you
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The French obviously do.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.p...-supported-biafra-nigerian-civil-war.html/amp

"First, France hoped to acquire British and American oil concessions in the oil-rich Niger Delta, and could have been motivated by the possibility of the breaking up of an Anglophone federation which could have exerted a powerful influence in a West Africa it had strong interests."
 

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The French obviously do.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.p...-supported-biafra-nigerian-civil-war.html/amp

"First, France hoped to acquire British and American oil concessions in the oil-rich Niger Delta, and could have been motivated by the possibility of the breaking up of an Anglophone federation which could have exerted a powerful influence in a West Africa it had strong interests."

You're deflecting from your previous point re: Nigeria and Cameroon

Moreover the EU (especially France) wants Nigeria to remain unified. De Gaulle is no longer in power. The EU knows Nigeria will increasingly be under its thumb as the state withers and dies.
 

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You're deflecting from your previous point re: Nigeria and Cameroon

Moreover the EU (especially France) wants Nigeria to remain unified. De Gaulle is no longer in power. The EU knows Nigeria will increasingly be under its thumb as the state withers and dies.

I'm not deflecting at all. You believe that France wants a United Nigeria, I don't, otherwise why are Frenchmen being found in Boko Haram strong holds?

Identity Of Arrested White Man In Sambisa Forest Revealed

Nigeria and France have been at a Proxy war for some time now. Nigeria is surrounded by Mali, Chad, Niger, Cameroon, all Francophone countries yet you think there's nothing more at play?

The French invasion of Nigeria by proxy - Vanguard News

Cameroon is a pawn that has been firing shots at Nigeria at an increasing rate. They are France's tool to destabilize Nigeria at the behest of America. All the evidence is there. Boko Haram, Biafra, Economic sabotage all within a period of a few years.

War is imminemt. Nigeria’s military chiefs gives theater Army and Air Force commanders 40 day ultimatum to capture Shekau.

Hillary Clinton fought to ensure Boko Haram WASN'T listed as a terrorist organization for a reason breh. Y'all think these Cacs are playing checkers :ufdup:
 
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I'm not deflecting at all. You believe that France wants a United Nigeria, I don't, otherwise why are Frenchmen being found in Boko Haram strong holds?

Identity Of Arrested White Man In Sambisa Forest Revealed

Nigeria and France have been at a Proxy war for some time now. Nigeria is surrounded by Mali, Chad, Niger, Cameroon, all Francophone countries yet you think there's nothing more at play?

The French invasion of Nigeria by proxy - Vanguard News

Cameroon is a pawn that has been firing shots at Nigeria at an increasing rate. They are France's tool to destabilize Nigeria at the behest of America. All the evidence is there. Boko Haram, Biafra, Economic sabotage all within a period of a few years.

War is imminemt. Nigeria’s military chiefs gives theater Army and Air Force commanders 40 day ultimatum to capture Shekau.

Hillary Clinton fought to ensure Boko Haram WASN'T listed as a terrorist organization for a reason breh. Y'all think these Cacs are playing checkers :ufdup:

- White Frenchman was a hoax. It was actually a hostage held in Cameroon! Soon you'll also believe other hoaxes such as Igbos are in Boko Haram
- Buhari surrendered to France early in his presidency when he went to Paris begging for support. France won. That's why French/American drones fly over Nigeria. Your kinsmen Jonathan refused to share intelligence with the cacs
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- EU plus America want a United Nigeria for a few reasons: They believe there will be more refugees in Europe if the North is left on its own, they don't want Nigeria's oil/natural gas controlled by China or Russia, they want a client state in West Africa

That's why Obama, Hollande and Cameroon spoke to 12 Northern Governors in 2015 to oust your brother, Jonathan. He was too independent. He was very corrupt, but he was an independent thinker.
 

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Everyone knows the US preferred Buhari over Goodluck but it's mainly due to Goodlucks ban on homosexuality and corruption. And if you look closely Buhari has not undermined most of "My Kinsmans" foreign policies.

- White Frenchman was a hoax. It was actually a hostage held in Cameroon! Soon you'll also believe other hoaxes such as Igbos are in Boko Haram

Please show us evidence that it was a hoax. A news article, public writeup, anything but just your baseless opinion because it was carried by every major news outlet in Nigeria. Should we trust them and their pictures or you??

- Buhari surrendered to France early in his presidency when he went to Paris begging for support. France won. That's why French/American drones fly over Nigeria. Your kinsmen Jonathan refused to share intelligence with the cacs
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You got it backwards

Chibok Schoolgirls: U.S. will not share military intelligence with Nigeria - Officials - Premium Times Nigeria


Cameroon was in on the plot as well.

Boko Haram: Why Cameroon Refused To Share Intelligence With NigeriaNaija247news | Naija247news


- EU plus America want a United Nigeria for a few reasons: They believe there will be more refugees in Europe if the North is left on its own, they don't want Nigeria's oil/natural gas controlled by China or Russia, they want a client state in West Africa

You make no sense. Then why did America reduce its oil imports from Nigeria to zero if they wanted a "client state" as you put it?

Real Reasons US stopped buying Nigeria’s Oil - EnergyNews


The reason is simply political and for you to assert anything contrary to this, without providing ANYTHING to back up your claims shows you have no idea what your talking about. Obama's policy towards Nigeria was hostile, end of story. Once again who do we believe, you or the evidence posted above??

That's why Obama, Hollande and Cameroon spoke to 12 Northern Governors in 2015 to oust your brother, Jonathan. He was too independent. He was very corrupt, but he was an independent thinker.

Yes he was an independent thinker hence his drive to prevent Europe from flooding Nigeria and West African with substandard imports. The EU tried so hard to get Nigeria to sign a trade agreement that would be detrimental to the Nigerian economy.

Nigeria explains why it has not signed EU-ECOWAS trade agreement - Premium Times Nigeria

The fact that you believe the west and the EU are not interested in the disintegration of Nigeria despite all the evidence pointing to the contrary makes it clear that you are either an Agent or grossly misinformed.
 
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Ha! Up till now you can't even be sure you have a majority. Once again thenreferendum isn't happening because a majority of Igbos themselves don't support Biafra. You say your people don't do hero worship?

Read both statements you made and tell me they're not a contradiction.
First you say not all igbos support it(meaning they're many who have refused) then you say we do hero worship because of a picture of kanu(meaning a sizeable part of igbos want it?)
Which is it



Bottom line, you initially ignored and ran away from my assertion that Igboland was filthy and polluted. Now your saying it's polluted not filthy. No problem, I hear ya as long as your on record acknowledging it. Oh and I wonder why you would compare pollution and trash accumulation from commercial activities that Igbos control to industrial wastage pollution caused from commercial activities of International Oil companies that we Ogonis DO NOT control?

And the fact that you do not control it and have made no efforts since ksw was killed says what about you now?
Remember you claimed Rivers State was the ONLY state that can build federal roads. No matter how much you try to qualify, you were WRONG. Admit it.

Did you read the links...The other states don't even build roads and complete it. They can't fund their own infrastructure and the steal the very sizeable amounts given by the federal government
Its very convenient for you to state that Igbos have effective leadership when it comes to education and hunger. But governance is more than that, and you constantly gives excuses as to why the environment is filthy and polluted or why the roads are terrible. If your leadership is so effective why do you ignore them when they say BIAFRA ain't happening?

Erm because governance is in a continuum and will take stages to finalize.
Glad you agree with me that commercial activities are self inflicted. Why can't y'all simply clean up after yourselves???
3 cities. You keep harping about the whole land
Biafra gonna be a garbage mans paradise :mjlol:
And yet you are desperate for us to stay with you

All states may have poor tax collect mechanism but 2 of your states are among the WORST. Not a good look breh.... It has everything to do with poor leadership, that point keeps flying over your head.
UN report.
So basically because your states don't know how to generate revenue internally and you can't explain why you're not going to answer the question because you want me to provide you more information on the viability of the states??:deadmanny:

Control over our own region gives us control over our own resources. Right now everything goes through the center from ports to minerals to gas exploration.



The Revenue allocation inequity has more to do with politics than anything else. The Niger delta gets it's allocation due to the fact that we are the treasure basin of the country.
List the states in Niger delta
I can admit our funds are mismanaged resulting in non payment of salaries. But in regards to infrastructure I have to correct you because roads, bridges, schools and hospitals have been a cornerstone of the Rivers administrations for the past 8 years. The Niger Deltans don't wait for handouts we expect to receive in proportion to what we contribute, which is more than any state in Igboland. Unlike Igbos we're the ones who have been cheated and deserve our own country. Nnamdi Kanu realizes this which is why he desperately NEEDS the Niger Delta to be a part of Biafra.
List the original states in biafra
It was never an igbo affair. This is the difference between you and I. You try soo hard to tag biafra an igbo affair and disregard the previous links I sent you showing other states that support it. Even south kaduna is desperate to join.(we are not interested )


If your region is such a pillar of development, why do your people leave in such high numbers?
Get the population density of the entire country and show me the maximum. You can Google a density heat map. Paste it here.
Wouldn't it be logical to stay in this utopia of education? The average Igboman will rather ply his trade in Port Harcourt or Kano than Umahia or Awka. Google RSSDA OR NDDC. The amount of Igbos that claim Rivers residency just to be able to get an overseas scholarship that our government provides to its people is make your head spin.

High education indeed. Also Nigeria didn't give away bakassi it followed the international court of justices ruling.
We decide to follow icj ruling one time in our existence and disregard the human rights abuses
Biafra might find the same justice if it goes that route, but it won't because it doesn't have the majority of support needed.
Before the formation of states during the war please Google igbos villages or towns in delta and rivers. Paste it here for all to see

If you were living better than us why are you forcing us to join Biafra after we've rejected you? Why is the fate of Biafra only predicated on the inclusion of Niger Delta states? What do you need us for? Nnamdi Kanu said it himself, but I should listen to you over him right..:mjlol:
You do not speak for ogonis. You speak for yourself. Hence they will vote like the others. Your desperate attempt to try to speak for them shows throughout our links

And since you don't believe that I'm Ogoni allow me to take you up on YOUR offer to meet .:heh: I go to Ogoniland at least 3 times a month but because of your generous offer I'm willing to meet you anytime this week!:demonic: Since you claim to be fron Anambra PM me your number here in Nigeria and we can set it up. I'll assume that you either are in Rivers State or at least come to Rivers state so coming here to meet me shouldn't be a problem seeing that you offered. Actions speak louder than words so I do hope to hear from you so we can both show our receipts
Better still take a neutral person like mansa or @Sagat. Give him your nigeria and us number. I'll give him my nigeria and dubai number. Then we switch it as proof and I'll call you when I'm going there

. For you to claim that you travel more than me is silly, just hit me up as I said so you can put your money where your mouth is.
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Everyone knows the US preferred Buhari over Goodluck but it's mainly due to Goodlucks ban on homosexuality and corruption. And if you look closely Buhari has not undermined most of "My Kinsmans" foreign policies.

Obama turfed out Jonathan because of "homosexuality and corruption"
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Explain US support for Ethiopia, Rwanda and Uganda then
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