What Happens If Biafra Gains Its Independence From Nigeria?

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The issue is you guys weren't clamoring to leave when Goodluck was President, despite the fact that he did NOTHING for the region.
They did actually. Jonathan was at least fair and smart enough to ignore kanu.
We don't need him to favor our region and this is what you don't get. Obasanjo stole without favoring his region and so did all military rulers. The idea that a president has to favor your region only is asinine.


There's no provision in the Nigerian constitution for referendum so there won't be any vote for self determination, it's not going to happen.
Sure. Stay still your entire life and don't change the laws to suit man

Have you been to Abia, Ebonyi, Imo at all? No roads, trash everywhere, minimal development.
The south east according to the UN reports is the best region in Nigeria and that is without the same amount of revenues or federal allocation of infrastructure. Lagos is the worst place to live in. I explained earlier the igbo ability to thrive in any environment and also the site of the ports and airport which was financed with oil in our region
Igbo leaders are to blame for that. Starting your own country ain't gonna change poor Igbo leadership.
Poor leadership yet we have the highest education level, highest security level lol.
Please learn to read actual reports from the UN and university research papers.
You're soo funny. If we are so bad, why desperate to have us stay? Shouldn't you be trying to remove the "problem"?

UN report says South East is the most human security secure geo-political in Nigeria

Lagos ranks world’s 3rd worst city to live in - Vanguard News
 

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Support from African Americans for biafra to be its own nation would be great, this could lead to biafra being a potential ally in the future for African Americans.
Like I stated in the OP, I FULLY SUPPORT Biafra. The Igbos have been mistreated far too long. So, succession is the best solution. I say this as an AA.
 

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Thanks for the Info, but based on my personal experience living and working in Nigeria, prior to the 2015 election, the Biafran agitation was minimal at best. Jonathan was fair to ignore Boko Haram as well and look what happened. Igbo people were assinine to put their faith in Jonathan. But they were NOT clamoring for Biafra at that time because they ignorantly thought they had the Presidency. They only have themselves to blame for their circumstance.

Your own Igbo people arent united and are divided on Biafra, so how can you even think about referendum?? You really don't have a grip on what is actually happening. But let's take your word over Ohaneze, the Igbo socio-political organization that represents the Igbo cause all over the world.:stopitslime:

Ndigbo are in support of a united Nigeria - South East leaders kick against Biafra

The UN report you posted paints a nice picture and even the NBS(National Bureau of statistics)cosigns, but I NEVER disputed that nor did I make the argument that Igboland was dangerous and crime infested. My point was that the Igboland is dirty and lacks development. 3 of the largest cities in "Biafra" are among the dirtiest and most polluted cities in the WORLD. Not just Nigeria. :picard:

World Most Polluted, Dirtiest City Found In Nigeria... Onitsha, Kaduna, Aba Named - Pointblank News





Please explain what the highest education rate has to do with effective leadership within the Igbo geopolitical zone? Your people live in squalor, the roads in your zone are not motorable and you have people like T.A. Oriji, Orji Uzor Kalu (well educated Igbo leaders) who have sucked Abia state dry, yet your here talking about marginalization from the Nigerian government :mjlol:, your obviously not on ground. That's why Igbos LEAVE Igboland in droves and move to Lagos "the worst city to live in" according to you :russ:. Igbos had to fall back when the Yorubas threatened to dump them in the Lagoon for trying to claim Lagos as their own.

Personally I don't care if Igbos leave. As a Chicago dude that has been in Nigeria for a few years, I'm just giving a first hand account of what's ACTUALLY happening. I trace my roots to an ethnic minority tribe in the South South. My community has large oil and gas reserves. Our problem with Biafrans is them constantly trying to include my region as a part of Biafra even after we rejected them. Rivers State nor any part of the South South will never join Biafra. And due to this simple fact, Biafra cannot exist. It's just the plain truth to which Nnamdi Kanu has said himself.:manny:
 

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Thanks for the Info, but based on my personal experience living and working in Nigeria, prior to the 2015 electionw, the Biafran agitation was minimal at best. Jonathan was fair to ignore Boko Haram as well and look what happened.
Actually I don't mind blaming initial ignorance on Jonathan. That's the difference between you and me. We hold no one on a pedestal.
He actually started focusing and winning battles with Boko Haram however according to your current president


If northern governments in your own country worked with a terrorist group because they assumed it'll give them leverage over the elections regardless of the human loss of life, what do you call those governors if not terrorists.
The same northern governors and most apc members actually reported their own governments to stop them from securing weapons to tackle Boko Haram.

Igbo people were assinine to put their faith in Jonathan. But they were NOT clamoring for Biafra at that time because they ignorantly thought they had the Presidency. They only have themselves to blame for their circumstance.
Again the level of IQ is in display. They did clamor but were ignored and they were not killed in mass numbers.
Your own Igbo people arent united and are divided on Biafra, so how can you even think about referendum?? You really don't have a grip on what is actually happening. But let's take your word over Ohaneze, the Igbo socio-political organization that represents the Igbo cause all over the world.:stopitslime:

Ndigbo are in support of a united Nigeria - South East leaders kick against Biafra

Another cringe inducing statement. So they should be a 100% consensus on agreeing on any subject before it passes I'm sure Obama shouldn't be president because he didn't won all electoral votes. I hear a lot of yorubas making this statement. Which village from the south south are you from lol?
It's a simple debate your issues and vote and implement an outcome.
India and Pakistan broke up and later Bangladesh.
Czech and Slovakia broke up
The Soviet Union broke up
What makes us special? Lol


The UN report you posted paints a nice picture and even the NBS(National Bureau of statistics)cosigns, but I NEVER disputed that nor did I make the argument that Igboland was dangerous and crime infested. My point was that the Igboland is dirty and lacks development. 3 of the largest cities in "Biafra" are among the dirtiest and most polluted cities in the WORLD. Not just Nigeria. :picard:

World Most Polluted, Dirtiest City Found In Nigeria... Onitsha, Kaduna, Aba Named - Pointblank News




So you show me a video from pre 2008 and you thought it was an intelligent idea Ps: that was a federal road btw. Infrastructure has always been lacking in all states. Should I start posting hundreds of pics of extreme poverty in your lands. Lol focus on the research come back to me.
Please explain what the highest education rate has to do with effective leadership within the Igbo geopolitical zone? Your people live in squalor, the roads in your zone are not motorable and you have people like T.A. Oriji, Orji Uzor Kalu (well educated Igbo leaders) who have sucked Abia state dry, yet your here talking about marginalization from the Nigerian government :mjlol:, your obviously not on ground.
If we have the lowest poverty according to the UN, who's really in squalor? The poorest region is the north followed by the south west and we are the least so I'm confused since you didn't read the research. The education aspect helps us by one allowing us to either work or start our own business which we do en mass. Also allows us to contribute to our individual community.


That's why Igbos LEAVE Igboland in droves and move to Lagos "the worst city to live in" according to you :russ:. Igbos had to fall back when the Yorubas threatened to dump them in the Lagoon for trying to claim Lagos as their own.
Igbos travel and are also packed in China and Indian and in the USA. We feel we are better equipped than you since we take the risks to travel for business. The Chinese man is also present in nigerian markets but I don't see you complaining about packing in droves. You go where you can dominate in business. Aren't we owning most of your real estate?
For a south south praising a yoruba for threatening igbos is very suspicious. A former cop thug turned king threatened an entire tribe to vote his way or else he'll kill them and that makes you giddy? And you're surprised that we prefer our own country.


Personally I don't care if Igbos leave. As a Chicago dude that has been in Nigeria for a few years, I'm just giving a first hand account of what's ACTUALLY happening. I trace my roots to an ethnic minority tribe in the South South. My community has large oil and gas reserves. Our problem with Biafrans is them constantly trying to include my region as a part of Biafra even after we rejected them. Rivers State nor any part of the South South will never join Biafra. And due to this simple fact, Biafra cannot exist. It's just the plain truth to which Nnamdi Kanu has said himself.
On ground and you can't tell me your village or speak your native tongue.
If you're truly from the south south you should represent yourself and vote your own conscience. Unlike you if we lost the vote, I'll sit my ass down and not be violent killing people on another community because I didn't get my way politically

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The Northern conspiracy in regards to Boko Haram isn't a point of contention as I agree with your view. I mentioned Boko Haram only as a reference to GEJ's slow response in dealing with them.

You claim Biafrans clamored, I claim their clamoring was minimal prior to the election. :manny:

Cringe inducing statement indeed. You haven't even explained why so many notable Igbo people are against Biafra, instead your deflecting and blabbing about Pakistan and Czech (people who were united in their quest for independence) So please explain, why are all those Igbo folks I listed against Biafra????

I see you like to overlook certain facts, seeing that you only addressed the video and it's date but conveniently ignored the WHO report that validates my point that Igboland is dirty and polluted. Why did you ignore that? You can cop out and claim infrastructure is lacking in all states but in rivers state and other states, the Governors repair federal roads because that is what effective leadership does, which is lacking in most of Igboland. If your issue is with the date of the video, here's a more recent one.



What does the North have to do with Igboland being rated the dirtiest and most polluted region?? If your people are so educated, explain why they don't have effective leadership? Your last response only states their education helps them in business, but that don't address geopolitical issues or governmental effectiveness. The WHO says ur land is filthy and polluted, you claim your people are so educated, so why cant your highly educated state governors solve those issues? Why are they so busy sucking your people dry and not delivering the most basic of public services (clean environment, roads, etc)?? How will Biafra solve these fundamental issues? Especially seeing that the same ineffective leadership I keep pressing you to address, will be the ones in charge. I read all the links you provided, ur confusion seems to be based on your inability to comprehend the question, let alone answer it.

Did you ever ask me where I'm from and I refused to answer? I'm Ogoni specifically from Gokana and you? When was the last time you were in Nigeria, or visited your village? Do you even know where your village is?? I'm sure you cancelled your trip when you found out your Biafran passport was a dud:pachaha:

How Uwazuruike-led MASSOB defrauded us with fake Biafran passport – Victims | TODAY.ng
 

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The Northern conspiracy in regards to Boko Haram isn't a point of contention as I agree with your view. I mentioned Boko Haram only as a reference to GEJ's slow response in dealing with them.

You claim Biafrans clamored, I claim their clamoring was minimal prior to the election. :manny:

Cringe inducing statement indeed. You haven't even explained why so many notable Igbo people are against Biafra, instead your deflecting and blabbing about Pakistan and Czech (people who were united in their quest for independence) So please explain, why are all those Igbo folks I listed against Biafra????
Cringe inducing? This is simply your inability to look at how other nations have solved their own division issues.
Again I'll repeat, we don't need 100% agreement from us, including the leaders. All that is needed is a simple majority based on a referendum after a debate. Why are you changing the subject here? Has any free and fair election in history ever led to a 100% agreement for one party or are you just bored?


I see you like to overlook certain facts, seeing that you only addressed the video and it's date but conveniently ignored the WHO report that validates my point that Igboland is dirty and polluted.
3 cities in the whole land is very polluted and it's due to a lot of commercial activities. That needs to be solved. Unlike you I don't need to baby our politicians
Why did you ignore that? You can cop out and claim infrastructure is lacking in all states but in rivers state and other states, the Governors repair federal roads because that is what effective leadership does, which is lacking in most of Igboland.
Removing rivers which takes a large portion of the oil allocation deservedly so the rest actually secure federal funding for their road.
http://authorityngr.com/2017/02/Finance-Ministry-excluded-S-East-from-$30bn-infrastructure-loan--DMO

The main ministry’s capital budget is N334.3 billion, NREA N15.3 billion, TCN N50 billion and FERMA N25 billion.
Other agencies are Electricity Management Services Limited (EMSL), N19 billion; National Power Training Institute, N1.8 billion and Nigeria Electricity Liability Management Limited, N2 billion.
The North-West has the second largest allocation of N30.1 billion; North-Central, N29 billion; South-South, N22.5 billion; South-East was allocated N2.9 billion; North-East has N9.4 billion.

Budget: S/West gets lion’s share of projects
This is an example of the injustice where all the federal budget and borrowed sums are used to fund other regions road and bridges. Your governors don't fund them. They can't even pay salaries and pensions
List Of States That Are Owing Workers' Salary In Nigeria 2016
12 states owe salaries despite bailout - Vanguard News 2017


If your issue is with the date of the video, here's a more recent one.
Polluted yes and it's simply due to a rapid growth. Rest is India and China which is also rapidly growing
The most polluted city in the world isn’t Beijing or Delhi




What does the North have to do with Igboland being rated the dirtiest and most polluted region?? If your people are so educated, explain why they don't have effective leadership? Your last response only states their education helps them in business, but that don't address geopolitical issues or governmental effectiveness. The WHO says ur land is filthy and polluted, you claim your people are so educated, so why cant your highly educated state governors solve those issues?
Funding.
Why are they so busy sucking your people dry and not delivering the most basic of public services (clean environment, roads, etc)?? How will Biafra solve these fundamental issues?
Breaking away gives us ownership over our own laws which we can make as we see fit. Fundamental issues around funding and reinvestment is key. Our own wealth and taxes won't go to you to pillage. Most thefts in the country is from the north, south west and oil rich regions.

Especially seeing that the same ineffective leadership I keep pressing you to address, will be the ones in charge. I read all the links you provided, ur confusion seems to be based on your inability to comprehend the question, let alone answer it.
The fact that you ask of fundamental issues regarding how we will solve matters of health and leadership meant you never read the UN report that I placed earlier. It clearly shows the link between our education levels and the commercial activities leading to security in the region due to investments made by us in our own region. We own almost 100% of ours and a huge chunk of others.
Did you ever ask me where I'm from and I refused to answer? I'm Ogoni specifically from Gokana and you? When was the last time you were in Nigeria, or visited your village?
Do you even know where your village is?? I'm sure you cancelled your trip when you found out your Biafran passport was a dud:pachaha:

You seem upset..
personal insults is unnecessary. We are debating based on logic and reason and it's important we stay on point. If we get our own country, why should securing a passport be an issue?
How often do igbos fly back home?
Why wouldn't I know my own village.
Why are the igbos more educated and business minded than you bearing in mind the lack of federal funding? It's because people like me outside the country do not hesitate to come home and build. We fund hospitals and schools. What do you do Mr ogoni? We don't only pay fees of our relatives, we do the same for strangers in the same village. We take apprentices in our shops and give them their own shops when they retire.
What do you do?

How Uwazuruike-led MASSOB defrauded us with fake Biafran passport – Victims | TODAY.ng
Should have gone to court if that was the case. Never saw this in any other mainstream articles before and no one needs a passport until we have a nation
 

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The subject is why every major Igbo group, Politician and grassroots organization is against Biafra? Your main rebuttal is "they don't need 100% support" :francis: Where did I say 100% support is required? If we even use percentages Biafra doesn't have even 50% support among your own people. If they did, a referendum would already be on the table. The creation Eritrea & South Sudan had much more support for separation than Biafra does. No major S-Sudanese/Eritrean leader or organization adovated against separation like what is happening with the Igbos. Come on brotha, unless Igbos are ready for another war, referendum is NOT happening.

Commercial activities or not I'm glad you finally acknowledged that Igboland is a dirty polluted region seeing that 3 of it's largest cities are filthy. Your leadership has work to do.

You are INCORRECT to claim that only Rivers state, because of Oil derivation is the only state that can do federal roads.

Oyo state
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.v...oads-repair-fg-reimburse-states-minister/amp/

Osun
FG set to pay debts owed states on federal road projects - BusinessDay : News you can trust

Akwa-Ibom
Akwa Ibom Govt Seeks Refund Of Money Spent On Federal Roads - SundiataPost

Yes, the funding structure is messed up. We're not disputing that so STOP DEFLECTING. For you to highlight that instead of explaining why most of your governors can't fix the roads like their counterparts in other regions simply amounts to you coppin pleas and affirms my point that historically, Igbos don't have effective leadership in government. If you were on ground you'd counter my point easily what is happening in Enugu with respect to roads, but till now you haven't, which means your not informed therefore your not ready to go toe to toe with someone on the frontlines. :ufdup:

Oh and I'm glad my more recent video made you finally agree with my point on the self inflicted pollution in your region.

Now you've claimed that FUNDING is the reason Igboland is dirty and polluted???:russ: The loan aside since that is NOT the only revenue stream they receive, what exactly have your leaders been doing with their federally allocated funds? Definitely not building roads, schools or keeping the place clean. What are they doing in terms of creating avenues of Internally generated revenue which is NOT taxed by the FG? There's only 1 state in your region with a notable IGR, ENUGU. But 2 States in Igboland have some of the lowest IGR in the country, Ebonyi and Imo.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.premiumtimesng.com/business/business-news/232507-14-nigerian-states-insolvent-‎have-ridiculously-low-internal-revenue-report.html/amp

As I just told you, states already have the ability to generate revenue internally without interference from the FG. 2 of your states are terrible at doing this, the other 2 states are neither here or there and only 1 state can get the job done. So how do you expect myopic leaders to run a country when they can't even run a state? Please explain...

You keep harping on security in your region being good. And that is something I've never disputed. All I'm saying is as it stands now, Igboland is in a mess. You have told us it's leaders are good businessmen and are well educated, but as it stands NOW, that has not translated into a clean environment, it has not given you good roads and you can't even explain why that is aside from trying to lay 100% of the blame on the federal structure. Your people aren't doing themselves any favors.

Also, I wasn't trying to personally insult you, just cracking jokes. But the Biafran passport fraud really goes to show that some your people are more interested in trying to profit off the cause than they are for the actual cause. If you get Biafra(which you won't) :lolbron:, passports will be required but it's sinister and deception to the highest order for Igbos to con other Igbos into thinking they were real.

Also you didn't tell me when the last time you came to Nigeria was or where your from. I did, why not reciprocate?? If you were a student of Nigerian history you wouldn't even ask what my people the Ogoni have done for the sake of equity and justice in Nigeria. Our leaders fought non violently to make our voices heard and paid the ultimate price.

 
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I'm a first generation Yoruba Nigerian. I agree that Nigeria should've never been one country but I don't see how this solves any real problems now tbh. I'm all for it. Why not. But I think everything is too fukked up now to be resolved by some more imaginary boundaries:hubie:.
 

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Also you didn't tell me when the last time you came to Nigeria was or where your from. I did, why not reciprocate?? If you were a student of Nigerian history you wouldn't even ask what my people the Ogoni have done for the sake of equity and justice in Nigeria. Our leaders fought non violently to make our voices heard and paid the ultimate price.



hmmm. Basically I was thinking the same thing in regards to ogonis.

I don't exchange issues with people on the internet because most of them are not attached to Nigeria outside their parents stories from 20-30-40 yrs ago or what they read online- nigerian or african news is fake or embellished alot.

When have ijaw efik, idoma, ogoni, edo, urhobo itsekiri, igala ever agree to biafra? When each individual tribe have their own leadership.

Only thing I hear is federalism, more states/lgas.

This isn't 1960's, where tribes are under igbo, yoruba or hausa-fulani. These posters are very out of touch.
 

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hmmm. Basically I was thinking the same thing in regards to ogonis.

I don't exchange issues with people on the internet because most of them are not attached to Nigeria outside their parents stories from 20-30-40 yrs ago or what they read online- nigerian or african news is fake or embellished alot.

When have ijaw efik, idoma, ogoni, edo, urhobo itsekiri, igala ever agree to biafra? When each individual tribe have their own leadership.

Only thing I hear is federalism, more states/lgas.

This isn't 1960's, where tribes are under igbo, yoruba or hausa-fulani. These posters are very out of touch.

Kanu/IPOB won't force South-South states to be part of Biafra. They'd vote on it. If they so no, they'd remain under worse Northern control.

Biafra is a non-violent democratic movement, breh
 

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The subject is why every major Igbo group, Politician and grassroots organization is against Biafra? Your main rebuttal is "they don't need 100% support" :francis: Where did I say 100% support is required? If we even use percentages Biafra doesn't have even 50% support among your own people. If they did, a referendum would already be on the table. The creation Eritrea & South Sudan had much more support for separation than Biafra does. No major S-Sudanese/Eritrean leader or organization adovated against separation like what is happening with the Igbos. Come on brotha, unless Igbos are ready for another war, referendum is NOT happening.

Sorry for the delay and ignore spelling mistakes(boat party...didn't know you responded.) Let's begin again
Two things first of all I said a referendum was required to prove who wants to stay or leave. I'm always amused when you tell me this political leader is not in support and i specified we don't do hero worship in our region. Each man has the right to vote his conscience and decide where he wants to go. I still don't get why the country is desperate for our presence.
The fact that the referendum isn't happening should tell you why the country is a failed state. It's like asking me why the police shoots civilians for 2 dollars (literally)

You mentioned ohaneze?
Let’s use Biafra to get our rights - Ohaneze - Vanguard News
Again we don't need 100%, a majority is all that is required


Commercial activities or not I'm glad you finally acknowledged that Igboland is a dirty polluted region seeing that 3 of it's largest cities are filthy. Your leadership has work to do.

I never said filthy. I clearly read the whole articles and it's the industrial areas which are polluted. It clearly stated due to commercial activities. This is similar to the problems in China currently. The entire country has no environmental plan and if you're from ogoni as you claim, yours is polluted with more dire consequences to flora and fauna. This is exactly why I didn't believe you're ogoni


You are INCORRECT to claim that only Rivers state, because of Oil derivation is the only state that can do federal roads.

Oyo state
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.v...oads-repair-fg-reimburse-states-minister/amp/

Osun
FG set to pay debts owed states on federal road projects - BusinessDay : News you can trust
Funny new article. Please read the following
Lagos most indebted Nigerian state, has N311b debt stock
Osun started building road and they couldnt finish as they took debts they couldn't repay since 2016
ZERO ALLOCATION: Debt ravaged Osun, other states receive nothing from FG
Which money to build what?


Akwa-Ibom
Akwa Ibom Govt Seeks Refund Of Money Spent On Federal Roads - SundiataPost
Highest allocation in the entire country. One of the lowest population.

Yes, the funding structure is messed up. We're not disputing that so STOP DEFLECTING. For you to highlight that instead of explaining why most of your governors can't fix the roads like their counterparts in other regions simply amounts to you coppin pleas and affirms my point that historically, Igbos don't have effective leadership in government.
I told you before to read the articles you send me as well as my sources. I'll take the UN over you. Effective leadership led to the following with the lowest revenue allocation and federal budget allocation:

Highest level of education in the country
Safety from chronic threats of hunger and illness
2 of our states carry (along with lagos, fct, rivers) carry 90% of all cash transactions in the country.
This means effective leadership regardless of no support from the federal govt. was able to galvanize the business community and secure the states better than others.
Who's the effect leaders other than us? Lagos that has the benefit of having majority of the federal budget on infrastructure? Who else ?

If you were on ground you'd counter my point easily what is happening in Enugu with respect to roads, but till now you haven't, which means your not informed therefore your not ready to go toe to toe with someone on the frontlines.
No offense but you don't make sense.
I've been around the country more times than you have.
I've been around more African countries than you have .
I've been around more countries world wide than you have.
I am on the front line more than you.
Ps: your own people will know me more than you

The roads? Please put your statement in a proper context and I'll reply


Oh and I'm glad my more recent video made you finally agree with my point on the self inflicted pollution in your region.

Never denied pollution. And yes commercial activity is self inflicted which apparently made us wealthier than you are seeing we hold majority of investments within the federation...so what again?
Now you've claimed that FUNDING is the reason Igboland is dirty and polluted???The loan aside since that is NOT the only revenue stream they receive, what exactly have your leaders been doing with their federally allocated funds? Definitely not building roads, schools or keeping the place clean. What are they doing in terms of creating avenues of Internally generated revenue which is NOT taxed by the FG?
You do know that all states have poor tax collection mechanisms right ? Lagos has more than 31 states combined.
There's only 1 state in your region with a notable IGR, ENUGU. But 2 States in Igboland have some of the lowest IGR in the country, Ebonyi and Imo.
Nothing to do with business but yes horrible tax collection mechanism. 60% of the gdp for those states are seen as in the informal economy
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.premiumtimesng.com/business/business-news/232507-14-nigerian-states-insolvent-‎have-ridiculously-low-internal-revenue-report.html/amp

As I just told you, states already have the ability to generate revenue internally without interference from the FG. 2 of your states are terrible at doing this, the other 2 states are neither here or there and only 1 state can get the job done. So how do you expect myopic leaders to run a country when they can't even run a state? Please explain...
And the entire states of the federation are at which position. Please paste the following for more context
Economic viable states
Debt level and sustainability by state


You keep harping on security in your region being good. And that is something I've never disputed. All I'm saying is as it stands now, Igboland is in a mess. You have told us it's leaders are good businessmen and are well educated, but as it stands NOW, that has not translated into a clean environment,
3 cities not the entire igboland.
it has not given you good roads and you can't even explain why that is aside from trying to lay 100% of the blame on the federal structure. Your people aren't doing themselves any favors.
Lets assume using the current federal system and pretend that 80%+ is used for recurrent expenditure and the rest for infrastructure. If you study the budget, it'll clearly show the federal government puts only your region and the northern region in its infrastructure bill, what does that tell you?
It means you have more cash allocated to you for the following.
Payment of salaries which you still don't do. (Please check my previous links on salary payment)
Infrastructure which increases gdp and internal revenue.(I don't have the ratio)
If you have all these advantages and you still (according to the un) can't make a better life for your own people compared to us, then don't we have a serious problem? Why are we In spite of having low allocation being able to manage it better than you
Is it perhaps because we are self made? Perhaps we don't wait for handouts but reduce poverty by constantly educating and keeping ourselves healthy according to the UN
If we have all these problems as you so eloquently put it, shouldn't you want to get rid of those problems? Isn't it embarrassing to you that the federal government is desperate to hold on to us and yet they could discard of oil rich bakassi sooo easily ?

Also, I wasn't trying to personally insult you, just cracking jokes. But the Biafran passport fraud really goes to show that some your people are more interested in trying to profit off the cause than they are for the actual cause. If you get Biafra(which you won't) passports will be required but it's sinister and deception to the highest order for Igbos to con other Igbos into thinking they were real.
Weird that you're talking to me about it seeing I didn't see a case or read the article elsewhere. But again in the Nigeria system, our citizens are currently living better than you. We only want more for ourselves s why the smiley? I'm sincerely confused here
Also you didn't tell me when the last time you came to Nigeria was or where your from. I did, why not reciprocate?? If you were a student of Nigerian history you wouldn't even ask what my people the Ogoni have done for the sake of equity and justice in Nigeria. Our leaders fought non violently to make our voices heard and paid the ultimate price.
Awka and please let me know when you are going to ogoni... I'll bookmark this thread so we can both take pics..then we can meet the elders that I'll introduce you to... I personally don't believe that you are but I can't prove either way so I'll let it slide

As for ogoni fight, I've not disagreed about the non violent fight or its history.
The cleanup of your land if you are ogoni will take 30 years. Weird how the aburi accords would have solved all our issues.
For Ken saro wiwa personally, betrayed biafra, enriched himself with our abandoned properties and thought the north gave a damn about him. His northern friends hung him. He apologized to ojukwu before the end.
His headquarters btw was the house of an igbo chief obi.
Please read the article below and see the history behind the word "good morning" you must see igbos use that a lot during conversations about Nigeria
Ojukwu Was Right


 
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