What Happens If Biafra Gains Its Independence From Nigeria?

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Dummy, Oyo empire was an hinterland Yoruba empire and it wasn't anywhere near the coast, albeit there are other Yoruba subgroups on the coast. And Oyo never really ventured to the coast because it used cavalry (horses) for most of its trading and wars - and due to tsetse fly, in the rain forest around the coast, it was unsafe. Also, Bight of Benin, where Yorubas and Dahomey are located wasn't really a big slave coast, until the late 1700s and 1800s, when Oyo empire had already collapsed, hence when you check all slave records from the 1600s to early 1700s, you wouldn't see that many slaves from the Bight of Benin.

However, Arochukwu Igbos sold millions of other Igbos into slavery in the Bight of Biafra, hence that was biggest slave trade coast in present day Nigeria. And you can check the slave records from 1600s to see how thousands of Igbos have been getting sold into slavery from the 1600s by their Arochukwu brothers.

Don't confuse Oyo with Arochukwu Igbos - two different people. And cacs didn't get to Oyo until the 1800s when it had already collapsed because they were scared of the powerful Yoruba empire in the hinterland. Oyo also protected Yorubas from being enslaved.

fukk outta here. This is a fukking lie. Its been well documented that the Yourbas and Dahomey Empire made millions in the slave trade. They became so famous for it that its been documented by many other cultures as a great source to purchase slaves. Hell, they became a powerful and rich country based on their lucrative slave trading activities. Yes there may have been small groups of Igbos selling slaves to white people, but that was few and far in between. The VAST MAJORITY of igbo were VICTIMS of the slave trade moron. This was because Igbo land was very unorganized and consisted of small enclaves of people living in separate autonomous communities. Because of the Igbo's lack of organization, they were primarily the VICTIMS of the slave trade idiot. Both white slavers and other tribes were able to take advantage of igbos and sell them off to slavery. This is the reason that most slaves from west Africa in the carribean and the americas have IGBO ancestry.

The history of the slave trading Dahomey and Oyo is legendary. It is this legacy that resulted in these people having the reputation of being untrustworthy.

 

[Bonk]

If you choose to be a pro Youroba bigot that doesn't care about the internal workings of whats going on in Nigeria, then take your ignorant ass elsewhere. There have been no lies told in this thread so far. Its clear the information posted has you feeling some type of way. Its the TRUTH. You and your people have to deal with that.

Instead of pushing pro-youroba propaganda, find another thread to amuse yourself in.

I'm only responding to you because I know you're the only decent one on the thread. The rest are hateful propagandists and there's a Diasporan fakkit who's masturbating on a topic he has no clue about.

I'm not a pro-Yoruba bigot - a bigot is a prejudiced person. And I only came on the thread because @MansaMusa left the topic, which was aimed Fulanis and started attacking Yorubas for no reason. The issue of Biafra has nothing to do with Yorubas, why turn on Yorubas with lies and propaganda? Fulanis bleed just like Igbos and you don't need Yoruba to go head-to-head with Fulanis, since both groups have almost the same population.

Anyway, I've no interest in what's going on in Nigeria. What's going on there is their prerogative. However, what I have a problem with is unwarranted attack on Yorubas and revisionism. Yorubas generally hate Fulanis than Igbos and have been fighting them for close to 200 years. So, if Yorubas are being neutral in whatever problem Igbos have with Fulanis, why not let them be and deal with Fulanis on your own?

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Let me dump my last post on the thread.

How Igbo soldiers killed the two highest ranked Yoruba soldiers in the Nigerian army during the first ever coup in Nigeria, to take over Nigeria, which was an Igbo coup. They only killed the leaders of all the other ethnic groups - no Igbo leader was touched:




Marinate on that, while I ride into the sunset.

Ride away fakkit. Go talk to your grandad how it feels to be descended from a culture slave trading c00nery.

 

[Bonk]

fukk outta here. This is a fukking lie. Its been well documented that the Yourbas and Dahomey Empire made millions in the slave trade. They became so famous for it that its been documented by many other cultures as a great source to purchase slaves. Hell, they became a powerful and rich country based on their lucrative slave trading activities. Yes there may have been small groups of Igbos selling slaves to white people, but that was few and far in between. The VAST MAJORITY of igbo were VICTIMS of the slave trade moron. This was because Igbo land was very unorganized and consisted of small enclaves of people living in separate autonomous communities. Because of the Igbo's lack of organization, they were primarily the VICTIMS of the slave trade idiot. Both white slavers and other tribes were able to take advantage of igbos and sell them off to slavery. This is the reason that most slaves from west Africa in the carribean and the americas have IGBO ancestry.

The history of the slave trading Dahomey and Oyo is legendary. It is this legacy that resulted in these people having the reputation of being untrustworthy.

Aro Confederacy

The Aro Confederacy was a large slave trading network and league of Igbo and Cross River allies led by the Aro people which flourished in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. Their influence and presence was distributed across parts of Nigeria's West Delta region, entire Eastern region, and Southern Igala. It is claimed that it extended through parts of present-day Cameroon and Equatorial Guinea. The Arochukwu Kingdom was an economical, political, and oracular center as it was home of the powerful Long Juju oracle, the Aro King, Chiefs, and High Priests.

This Confederacy owed its origin to the rise of the slave trade in the interior. The combination of slavery with what the British (who withdrew from the Gold Coast slave trade in 1806, and banned slavery in 1833) alleged was a dangerous, cannibalistic fetish, resulted in moral outrage and efforts to annex Igboland. In the resulting Anglo-Aro wars (1901-1902) the Confederacy was dismantled, and its territory added to the British Protectorate of Southern Nigeria, formed (with the Northern Protectorate) the previous year when the Royal Niger Company was wound-up and the colonial administration was established. The following year, what the British referred to as the pacification of the Niger was complete when the historic sultanates of Kano and of Sokoto, the remaining pockets of resistance, were defeated. The office of the Eze-Aro, or King, continues and he is constitutionally recognized by the Republic of Nigeria as one of eight Paramount Chiefs. Alongside that of other Emirs and chiefs, his role is mainly ceremonial although he remains a focus of Aro pride and identity. The king’s official website describes the British attack of 1902 “on the peace loving citizens” as “unwarranted,” “pointing out that it was carried out only for the selfish economic interest of the then British Empire.”[1] British depictions of the Aro as cannibals and blood-thirsty differ markedly from Aro self-descriptions.

The Rise
The slave trading Confederacy was founded shortly after Arochukwu formed. Making alliances with several Igbo and eastern Cross River neighbors, the Aro people began slave trading activities around Igbo and Ibibio lands. Among many of the ethnic groups of eastern Nigeria, anyone who enters a shrine and begs the deity of the shrine for help instantly becomes an osu (sometimes called a "juju slave"), a slave of the shrine and a social outcast. The priests of the Ibini Ukpabi oracle (also known as the Long Juju Shrine), popular in midwest and southeast Nigeria, exploited this in order to force travelers and pilgrims into slavery, at least according to European reports. The story goes that agents of the oracle would pose as bandits and chase their victims into the shrine, hoping they would beg the intervention of the god and become osu, so the priests could then sell them off for profit. As this continued, Aro businessmen from Arochukwu migrated across southern Nigeria and also to Cameroon and Equatorial Guinea and founded numerous settlements. There they spread the Aro trading monopoly.

Aro Confederacy - New World Encyclopedia

Are you saying Arochukwu isn't Igbo?

Aro Confederacy sold millions of fellow Igbos into slavery, hence the Bight of Biafra, was the biggest slave coast in Nigeria.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

What did you win?
Your tribe couldn't even fill the necessary quota for the army and their officers from 1960 to 1966. Mostly the middle belt and the North.
Your favorite hero adekunle was killing women and children before having a disastrous campaign forcing the Nigeria army hq to send him back

His quote
I want to see no Red Cross, no Caritas, no World Council of Churches, no Pope, no missionary and no UN delegation. I want to prevent even one Ibo from having even one piece to eat before their capitulation. We shoot at everything that moves and when our troops march into the centre of Ibo territory, we shoot at everything even at things that do not move, "

( Benjamin Adekunle. Commander, 3rd Marine Commando Division, Nigerian Army to French radio reporter). "

What happened to adekunle after the war?
Well see his quote
"Personally, now and for some time I feel so ashamed to have killed people to sustain the unity of Nigeria. I feel so sad to have shed blood for the unity of Nigeria. While some of us were dying in the battle field for the restoration of Nigeria as one country, some people have their eagle eyes on one particular subject, oil, the live wire of the economy, the new fulcrum or pendulum of power. While we fought for one country, some people have been reaping where they did not sow. They have been reaping from bogus population figures fashioned to suit their selfish purposes"

He died wretched, drooling and poor whilst his children were begging for money to send him to the hospital


All is fair in war, and starvation is one of the weapons of war. I don't see why we should feed our enemies fat in order for them to fight harder."
Chief Obafemi Awolowo (Nigerian Minister of Finance, July 28th 1969) " ,

Exactly. The moron was so engulfed in his rage and hatred for igbos that he allowed the Hausas to completely take advantage of his dumbass. God will continue to punish fools like Adekunle for allowing themselves to be so easily manipulated.

 

[SheWantTheD]

Gonna have to bookmark this thread.

 

[Mowgli]

If i see a cac caring about a black nation becoming independent theres probably cac interests meddling somewhere

 

[Bonk]

Ride away fakkit. Go talk to your grandad how it feels to be descended from a culture slave trading c00nery.

Sorry, my lineage never sold slaves. And my maternal great grandad was a slave returnee. So?

Yorubas never really sold slaves like Igbos. And all the people who fought against slave trade in present day Nigeria were Yorubas.

Madam Tinubu's a classic example.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Are you saying Arochukwu isn't Igbo?

Aro Confederacy sold millions of fellow Igbos into slavery, hence the Bight of Biafra, was the biggest slave coast in Nigeria.

No i'm saying the Arochukwu clan was small potatoes compared to the powerful Dahomey and Oyo kingdoms, which existed for many decades. Stop playing dense fakkit.

Again, ride away to the sunset. Grab a fukking book on your way out.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Correct me doesn't the word "akata" come from the Yoruba language? @MansaMusa @Hiphoplives4eva

Again correct me please. No troll/bias.

 

[ignorethis]

Are you saying Arochukwu isn't Igbo?

Aro Confederacy sold millions of fellow Igbos into slavery, hence the Bight of Biafra, was the biggest slave coast in Nigeria.

You're trying to take a literal conspiracy by the Arochukwu, which was a freemason-like secret society and apply it to all Igbos.

 

[Bonk]

No i'm saying the Arochukwu clan was small potatoes compared to the powerful Dahomey and Oyo kingdoms, which existed for many decades. Stop playing dense fakkit.

Again, ride away to the sunset. Grab a fukking book on your way out.

Dahomey wasn't that powerful and most of the slaves Dahomey sold were Yorubas (Egbas and Ketu) and it stopped selling slaves after it was defeated by the Egbas. And Dahomey isn't Yoruba - it's Fon.

Oyo empire was powerful but it never had access to the sea, so it wasn't a big player in the slave trade. Coastal Yoruba groups sold slaves, tho. And when Oyo collapsed, a lot of Yorubas sold other Yoruba captives during the Yoruba internecine wars for guns. After the wars ended, they stopped and started fighting against slavery.

Unlike Aro Igbo who sold millions of fellow Igbos into slavery. And if not for the abolition of slavery and going to war with the British, they wouldn't have stopped.

 

[Bonk]

You're trying to take a literal conspiracy by the Arochukwu, which was a freemason-like secret society and apply it to all Igbos.

But was Arochukwu Igbo or not?

 

[ignorethis]

But was Arochukwu Igbo or not?

Yes, Igbos have come to terms with what the Arochukwu did and they are frown upon in all of Igbo culture for it.

A few Igbos put together a conspiracy to sell their brothers into slavery to make themselves richer. The Oyo empire was the peak of Yoruba civilization and they were openly engaged in the the selling of captives as slaves

It's two different situations and your being dishonest by comparing the two.

 

[Ikwa]

@The Wave @MansaMusa is the problem only with the Hausa north? What about the Yoruba and other tribes in the south?