What Happens If Biafra Gains Its Independence From Nigeria?

[Bonk]

Are you retarded? They obviously moved southwestward(as my post says).
Stop trying to rewrite history! The Oyo empire is well known for being a former slave trading state.

You're an illiterate. How did Oyo move southwards when Eko and Ijebu kingdoms on the coast were autonomous Yoruba states and were never part of Oyo? Did they dislodge them and take over their kingdom in your new revisionist history, lunkhead?

This is an excerpt from your link again:

The Oyo Empire was a powerful Yoruba state in the modern country of Nigeria. It began in the 1300s in the West African savannah north of the tropical forests where other Yoruba peoples lived. Being in the savannah proved beneficial, as Oyo could use horses, which were unable to live farther south (due to the tsetse fly). Using this armored cavalry, the empire was able to extend its reach across parts of what is now northern and western Nigeria. Oyo was generally unable to penetrate to the coast except where the savanna reached southward to the ocean in Benin.

Oyo Empire | Slavery and Remembrance

So, because historians who could separate Oyo from coastal Yoruba kingdoms called everyone Oyo, that automatically makes everyone Oyo? Are you even African and what do you know about Yoruba history?

Dummy, you want to teach me the history of my own people and the geography of Yorubaland, yes? FOH.

 

[HAL 9000]

You're an illiterate. How did Oyo move southwards when Eko and Ijebu kingdoms on the coast were autonomous Yoruba states and were never part of Oyo? Did they dislodge them and take over their kingdom in your new revisionist history, lunkhead?

This is an excerpt from your link again:



So, because historians who could separate Oyo from coastal Yoruba kingdoms called everyone Oyo, that automatically makes everyone Oyo? Are you even African and what do you know about Yoruba history?

Dummy, you want to teach me the history of my own people and the geography of Yorubaland, yes? FOH.

No one cares about your hypotheticals. You trying to debate something that is well known.

It is well known that the Oyo empire was a slave state. Why is this fact triggering you lol?

 

[Bonk]

Brehs, I view tribalism as a spectrum wherein ingroup favouritism needs not to automatically mean or result in zero-sum mentalities and attitudes.
Still, there is nonetheless a type of hard tribalism that is dangerous and historically has wrought us a great deal of misery. This thread does not bode well.

Breh, this is the map of West/North African kingdoms/empires:

Under Oyo, along the coast, you would see three separate states. Those are Dahomey, Eko, and Ijebu. Dahomey was an Oyo vassal. Eko, which's a Yoruba state, was a Bini empire vassal. While Ijebu, a Yoruba state, was an independent state on its own.

Dahomey, Eko, and Ijebus did sell slaves. However, historians always categorize both Eko and Ijebu as Oyo because they were Yoruba states but both were never part of Oyo. Another independent state on the map that's Yoruba on the map is Sabe and they also do include it as part of Oyo most times.

 

[Bonk]

No one cares about your hypotheticals. You trying to debate something that is well known.

It is well known that the Oyo empire was a slave state. Why is this fact triggering you lol?

It's not hypothetical - it's about educating your vacuous dumb ass. I know the fakkit, Diasporan fakkit has an agenda but I'm just schooling you about Yoruba history and the geography of Yorubaland.

I even used your own link, which corroborated what I asserted about Oyo's cavalry and tsetse fly to son you. Now, go find your mates and play dominos with them, you dimwitted oaf with the IQ of a rat. FOH retard.

 

[shadowking]

Brehs, I view tribalism as a spectrum wherein ingroup favouritism needs not to automatically mean or result in zero-sum mentalities and attitudes.
Still, there is nonetheless a type of hard tribalism that is dangerous and historically has wrought us a great deal of misery. This thread does not bode well.

This statement is early the most important bit so far. Every one understands the fact that you may favor your tribe but awolowo was so threatened by his own people's inability to compete that genocide was his only option.

He was imprisoned for treason and it was ojukwu(not gowon) who set him free
He also said if the east goes, we'll go too.

It was him who started the first carpet crossing in the Parliament. An igbo man won an election fair and square. Overnight he used tribal fears to change their minds.

He was the architect of the starvation policy

Now look at the north

Innocent children facing the results of a horrible leadership

This is ojukwu's quote:

Ojukwu almost prophetically warned that allowing a middle ranking officer backed by coup plotters to become the Head of State irrespective of seniority would create a dangerous precedent which Nigeria would find difficult to emerge from in future. He told Gowon that "any break at this time from our normal line would write in something into the Nigerian army which is bigger than all of us and that thing is indiscipline, How can you ride above people's heads purely because you are at the head of a group who have their fingers poised on the trigger? If you do it you remain forever a living example of that indiscipline which we want to get rid of because tomorrow a Corporal will think, he could just take over the company from the Major commanding the company…".

Now how many coups since biafra and how is the nigerian army discipline?


Another of ojukwu's words:
“It is better that we move slightly apart and survive, it is much worse that we move closer and perish in the collision.”

Where are we now?

 

[HAL 9000]

It's not hypothetical - it's about educating your vacuous dumb ass. I know the fakkit, Diasporan fakkit has an agenda but I'm just schooling you about Yoruba history and the geography of Yorubaland.

I even used your own link, which corroborated what I asserted about Oyo's cavalry and tsetse fly to son you. Now, go find your mates and play dominos with them, you dimwitted oaf with the IQ of a rat. FOH retard.

I couldn't give a rat's ass about your history breh. The fact that you are blatantly denying a well known fact tells me all I need to know.
Your peeps sold slaves bro, maybe you need a moment to come to terms with that. Also, check that attitude motherfukker; this is not nairland or yorubanet or whatever forum your people post on. Know where you are.

 

[BigMan]

Unu cut that out

All you Nigerians were selling slaves

Most blacks in the New World have ancestry from modern Nigeria and/Angola

 

[Bonk]

I couldn't give a rat's ass about your history breh. The fact that you are blatantly denying a well known fact tells me all I need to know.
Your peeps sold slaves bro, maybe you need a moment to come to terms with that. Also, check that attitude motherfukker; this is not nairland or yorubanet or whatever forum your people post on. Know where you are.

Airhead, if you don't know the history and geography of the place - shut your ass up and stay away from the topic. What know fact when your link corroborated what I said about Oyo's inability to reach the coast due to tsetse fly and its use of cavalry? Your low IQ having ass is too dumb to read that, no? Fukking mongrel.

Where did I deny that they didn't sell slaves? I only said Oyo empire didn't sell slaves like you're trying to make it and slave trade got big in the Bight of Benin (among Yorubas) after the collapse of Oyo, during the Yoruba internecine wars, when they were selling slaves for guns. And every history book would tell you that most Yoruba slaves arrived in the 1800s and the timeline corresponds with the collapse of Oyo. Oyo and Yoruba aren't interchangeable and not all Yorubas were Oyo. My argument was only about Oyo, dummy.

Where am I? You think I give a fukk? Nikka I'll slap the daylight out of you in-front of your mom and that's on everything. Don't be threatening me. Do I look like a kid to you?

 

[Bonk]

Unu cut that out

All you Nigerians were selling slaves

Most blacks in the New World have ancestry from modern Nigeria and/Angola

Yes, all the ethnic groups in Nigeria sold slaves. I was only making an argument about Oyo which had collapsed before the Yoruba coast became a big slave coast. Prior to that, slavery wasn't really big there, unlike the Bight of Biafra.

Also, check all history books, you'd see that most Yoruba slaves arrived in the new world in the 1800s. And Oyo had already collapsed then. Most of the Yoruba slaves sold, were sold during the Yoruba wars. That's historical fact.

 

[HAL 9000]

Airhead, if you don't know the history and geography of the place - shut your ass up and stay away from the topic. What know fact when your link corroborated what I said about Oyo's inability to reach the coast due to tsetse fly and its use of cavalry? Your low IQ having ass is too dumb to read that, no? Fukking mongrel.

Where did I deny that they didn't sell slaves? I only said Oyo empire didn't sell slaves like you're trying to make it and slave trade got big in the Bight of Benin (among Yorubas) after the collapse of Oyo, during the Yoruba internecine wars, when they were selling slaves for guns. And every history book would tell you that most Yoruba slaves arrived in the 1800s and the timeline corresponds with the collapse of Oyo. Oyo and Yoruba aren't interchangeable and not all Yorubas were Oyo. My argument was only about Oyo, dummy.

Where am I? You think I give a fukk? Nikka I'll slap the daylight out of you in-front of your mom and that's on everything. Don't be threatening me. Do I look like a kid to you?

The same link says this: "Under Alafin (King) Obalokun, Oyo expanded southwestward to the Atlantic coast, and became part of the Atlantic Ocean trade system. "

It's hilarious how you completely ignored the evidence to push your bullshyt. The oyo empire sold slaves dude deal with it.

Lol at slap comment.

Breh, I don't think your pops will be able to afford your funeral on that cab driver wage.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Unu cut that out

All you Nigerians were selling slaves

Most blacks in the New World have ancestry from modern Nigeria and/Angola

 

[Bonk]

The same link says this: "Under Alafin (King) Obalokun, Oyo expanded southwestward to the Atlantic coast, and became part of the Atlantic Ocean trade system. "

It's hilarious how you completely ignored the evidence to push your bullshyt. The oyo empire sold slaves dude deal with it.

Lol at slap comment.

Breh, I don't think your pops will be able to afford your funeral on that cab driver wage.

Again (from your own link), retard:

The Oyo Empire was a powerful Yoruba state in the modern country of Nigeria. It began in the 1300s in the West African savannah north of the tropical forests where other Yoruba peoples lived. Being in the savannah proved beneficial, as Oyo could use horses, which were unable to live farther south (due to the tsetse fly). Using this armored cavalry, the empire was able to extend its reach across parts of what is now northern and western Nigeria. Oyo was generally unable to penetrate to the coast except where the savanna reached southward to the ocean in Benin.

Oyo Empire | Slavery and Remembrance

You're Igbo, you're infamous for talking big and crying victim. I'm Yoruba, we're known for doing things.

You talked big during the first war, and it took the bravery/intellect of Yoruba sons to defeat your people and they surrendered to Yoruba soldiers. That's exactly the way I'm going to slap the daylight out of you in-front your mom and she'll thank me for doing a good job.

Yorubas: we don't lose, always winning.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Again (from your own link), retard:



You're Igbo, you're infamous for talking big and crying victim. I'm Yoruba, we're known for doing things.

You talked big during the first war, and it took the bravery/intellect of Yoruba sons to defeat your people and they surrendered to Yoruba soldiers. That's exactly the way I'm going to slap the daylight out of you in-front your mom and she'll thank me for doing a good job.

Yorubas: we don't lose, always winning.

So you're bragging about the starvation of many people and being responsible for trapping Igbos in the hell hole named Nigeria?

Damn... Now I see why most "outsiders" especially blacks prefer Igbos over other Nigerians. I don't care if I get negged or burn bridges with some Yoruba posters.

 

[HAL 9000]

Again (from your own link), retard:



You're Igbo, you're infamous for talking big and crying victim. I'm Yoruba, we're known for doing things.

You talked big during the first war, and it took the bravery/intellect of Yoruba sons to defeat your people and they surrendered to Yoruba soldiers. That's exactly the way I'm going to slap the daylight out of you in-front your mom and she'll thank me for doing a good job.

Yorubas: we don't lose, always winning.

I'm not from Africa, you fukking idiot. Take your meds.

 

[HAL 9000]

So you're bragging about the starvation of many people and beung responsible for trapping Igbos in the hell hole named Nigeria?

Damn... Now I see why most "outsiders" especially blacks prefer Igbos over other Nigerians. I don't care if I get negged or burn bridges with some Yoruba posters.

Dude is mentally ill. I definitely sympathize with the Igbos now.