What Happens If Biafra Gains Its Independence From Nigeria?

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:francis: I dont believe in Biafra. would rather a restructured nigeria.

while biafra for igbos would sound good not every person in the Niger delta agrees.

no one has time to warring between ikwerre(igbo), over land or itsekiri(1 million) , edos( 5 million), urhobos(3 million), or yorubas(30+ million)

Too much headache to be arguing over what land or people are going where.


Niger delta tribes are all related to both igbo and yoruba - that's how my dad explains ethnicity to me.
The Niger Delta will willingly come to Biafra. The issue is when funds are allocated. That's when it can get tight. Anambra would want the cut and power, River would as well, Abia would, etc, etc.

Biafra would have to decide what it wants to be. The reason why Benue is important is for Food and River for Oil would have all of the makings of turning Biafra into a powerful business state not just within West Africa but possibly in the world. But how they handle corruption, crime, education, business trade, not letting the Lebanese eat like usual, and practicing fair trade with America, Europe, Asia and most importantly, Africa will make Biafra great. Truthfully, letting the ex-pats and their brain power that is currently in America, Europe and Asia would be vital as well. Building strong relationships with the embassies around the world is just as huge. Nigeria will still have their oil fields and for agriculture, they would be fine but it's clear, the Northern best businessmen will have to pick a side.

Dangote for example businesses is in Benue. Then again, so will Igbos in Lagos and Abuja. That said, I think many of the elites will keep their power regardless of the nation split.

That said, Biafra has more potential than Nigeria by a mile but what would happen when Biafra is far more successful than Nigeria. Not to mention, Israel is controlled by white supremacists right now, is that alliance really that strong. It was America by proxy of GB who convince them to stop fukking with us during the war with Nigeria in the first place which is why we lost.

To me, Biafra needs to do something many African countries refuse to do. Pick an area of expertise, focus the population in that direction and build a powerful nation that can compete with the rest of modern society.

Note: Not saying we need to end our trading with Lebanon, that will never happen. They are like our lifetime trading partners. But it won't be like it was in Nigeria. It won't be where all of them are eating good and we aren't. That's never gonna happen again. It will be like it used to be. Where both will eat.
 
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Most went to DMV based on what I read. While GA and the Carolinas were largely Senegambian due to those colonies needing those type of slaves skillset for rice cultivating.
That's where they ended up. Where slavery was more brutal and more refined. In the South, they were all over the place and they would stay in a constant slave revolt. Mainly in the Hampton Roads Area.
 

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Lol i'm not against it. I have no say in nigerian politics. I'm saying I already know what a broken south nigeria does.

You guys keep saying igbo yorubaa and hausa.

They are not the only tribes nigeria. Nor will they be the most affected by a broken nigeria.
Igbos already know that that's why they tried to unified Nigeria from 1992-2012 but during that period, everyone just got poor and poorer. Nigeria has far than enough resources to the point where everyone should not have to live in mass poverty like their in Liberia unless their gov't or society men.
 

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If war does come then Biafra has to learn from lessons from the last war. They will need foreign support from a a great power. Let us be real the last time they had token support. There has to be a foreign power who would see the benefit of supporting Biafra. Maybe a China if promised they will first dibs on natural resources after the war.
 

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If war does come then Biafra has to learn from lessons from the last war. They will need foreign support from a a great power. Let us be real the last time they had token support. There has to be a foreign power who would see the benefit of supporting Biafra. Maybe a China if promised they will first dibs on natural resources after the war.

I was thinking this same thing the MPLA during the Angolan War had massive support from power nations from Cuba, the Soviet Union, and others. Hell South Sudan had powerful support too. Lets hope the AU does not gang up on Biafra.
 

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:francis: I dont believe in Biafra. would rather a restructured nigeria.

while biafra for igbos would sound good not every person in the Niger delta agrees.

no one has time to warring between ikwerre(igbo), over land or itsekiri(1 million) , edos( 5 million), urhobos(3 million), or yorubas(30+ million)

Too much headache to be arguing over what land or people are going where.


Niger delta tribes are all related to both igbo and yoruba - that's how my dad explains ethnicity to me.

Nigeria won't restructure. The APC rejected it.

So, the current option is continued decline under Northern Oligarchy or...Biafra.
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I was thinking this same thing the MPLA during the Angolan War had massive support from power nations from Cuba, the Soviet Union, and others. Hell South Sudan had powerful support too. Lets hope the AU does not gang up on Biafra.
I am not calling for war just that they have to be prepared for the event if it happens. And it could happen since the Northern elites are hell bent against it. Biafra needs to get foreign sympathy. Let us be real Islamphobia is at an all time high in the West so they could take advantage of that. If not the west look to China. China has an unquenchable thirst for oil,natural gas and coal. Biafra could make a deal that China can't refuse. The key is that would need a committed backer who will supply them with arms. And for them to win they would need anti ship,anti aircraft and anti tank missiles. With these weapons wage a guerilla war of attrition and the North would have to give up. I'm just talking hypothetics but they have to prepare for war if they want peace.
 

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My comment wasn't particularly directed to you, or in reference to who was selling slaves to whom back in the day. Rather I meant, as others have pointed out, that the tone of the thread took a shift from expounding merits and demerits of Igbo nationalism versus the preservation of the Nigerian nation state, to virulent emotional tribalism and zero-sum game rhetoric.

The subject of slavery was only brought to aid claims that this or that out-group has a history of "c00nery".

However, now that you touched on the subject, I have to ask: are you not splitting hairs? Conceding that Oyo was a separate state from the coastal Yoruba states who traded directly with Europeans in the transatlantic slave trade; still, did they not own and sell slaves? did they not trade with those same coastal states? and if so, would they not thus be involved and part of the same transatlantic trade network?

I'm not for the preservation of the Nigerian nation state. And I don't believe Nigeria, like most of the other African countries, are workable/serviceable countries. They're all a conglomerate of independent nations forced together - to preserve colonial legacy and everything wrong with colonization, hence you'll never catch me on any thread where Nigeria is being discussed. Initially when I saw the thread, I thought it was going to be a good thread to lurk on and read how Igbos want to go about attaining their Biafran dream. However, what I've a problem with is how they shifted from their campaign of calumny against their Fulani foes, to Yorubas, who don't have any problems whatsoever with whatever Igbos are planning to do. And as a Yoruba son, it's my responsibility to nip it in the bud and set the records straight.

Also, a lot of them tend to develop amnesia that even during the first Biafran war, at the early stages, the few Yorubas in the Nigerian army, fought for both sides (Igbos and Nigeria). And Yorubas only joined the Nigerian army en masse, after news got to the Yoruba part of the country that Biafran soldiers were coming to capture the Yoruba enclave. So, if I feel the hateful unwarranted attack on Yorubas is unjust and decide to tear their propaganda to shreds, I've a right to do that.

About Oyo: did Oyo sell some slaves either directly or through 3rd parties? I'd say, most likely yes. However, was it a massive slave trading empire like the poster I quoted tried to make it? No, it wasn't. That was basically my point. The best way to understand Oyo's involvement in the slave trade is by using timeline of the quantity slaves sold in the Bight of Benin, at the height of the empire vis-a-vis the quantity of slaves sold after its collapse and also its inability to use the coast effectively due to its cavalry. And you'd see the point I was making.

Also, at the peak of Oyo empire, most of Oyo's slaves which were war captives that worked on farms in Oyo, soldiers, and jockeys for its cavalry - they were mostly Nupes, Hausas, Fulanis, and Baribas. And when you examine slave records you'd see that the number of these people sold into transatlantic slavery was negligible. Oyo's a Yoruba empire and it never had Yoruba slaves but the overwhelming majority of slaves taken from the Bight of Benin were Yoruba slaves. That's where you need to check the timeline of when Bight of Benin became a major slave coast and it coincides with the fall of Oyo and Yoruba internecine wars when different warring Yoruba groups were selling one another's war captives into slavery for guns, to prosecute the war.
 

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Somaliland is much closer to true independence than Biafra currently is to independence from Nigeria.

Theres just too many forces and complexity at hand that's in the way after decades of fighting. Good luck with that brehs.
 

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I am not calling for war just that they have to be prepared for the event if it happens. And it could happen since the Northern elites are hell bent against it. Biafra needs to get foreign sympathy. Let us be real Islamphobia is at an all time high in the West so they could take advantage of that. If not the west look to China. China has an unquenchable thirst for oil,natural gas and coal. Biafra could make a deal that China can't refuse. The key is that would need a committed backer who will supply them with arms. And for them to win they would need anti ship,anti aircraft and anti tank missiles. With these weapons wage a guerilla war of attrition and the North would have to give up. I'm just talking hypothetics but they have to prepare for war if they want peace.
I know you are not calling for war but just saying that IF that does occur then Biafra needs international support and it has to be a must. And the bolded is an interesting outlook. As for the rest of this post, agreed.
 

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lol...... at envious

im a Lagosian breh .... and when I say Lagosian I mean thats where my people are from and If i had a penny for every Igbo person that claimed where Im from Id be even richer than I am now.... so kill that nonsense because yoruba people aint trying to claim Akwa Ibom


like I said .... you highlight the Igbos biggest problem, relentless chest beating and you always seem to have a complex that people are jealous of you, yet we arent the ones running to live amongst you .... you are living amongst us?

This is why i cant take some of you seriously, for the record Im not a Northerner and i wish they would go as well, i aint got no beef with them but Abuja is

as far North i will go so there is nothing to miss ....

One thing i will say whoever wants to move back best move back quickly because in terms of land mass Biafra is very small ....



Like i said before i personally dont have an opinion apart from If a lot of people leave Lagos the traffic would be easier ,other than that whether Igbos stay or go It wont really impact my life...... I just cant take the bullshyt

I was born in Lagos, If you want this my penny, come and take from me.:umad:
 
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