What does Michael Jordan do better than LeBron besides score?

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I can't believe this thread is still going on.

 

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[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Example 897398347983749374939 of why LeBron stans are the filth of this board - pay close attention to the bold in each of these posts:

Kyrie and Love hadn't even sniffed a playoff before Lebron and Kyrie was missing the playoffs in a horribly weak East. People are quick to credit Pippen's growth to Jordan but won't do the same for Lebron to Kyrie.

Which one of Lebron teams could have won without Lebron? WADE AND BOSH WERE INJURED DURING BOTH OF THE RING RUNS with Bosh tearing his groin and Wade needing his knee drained but Lebron helping carry the team.

You nikkas lost your mind. The Heat were built entirely around Lebron's versatility and his ability do fill in the holes the team needed (He was a defensive fulcrum and acted as the inside presence for a team that was sorely lacking).

Do you nikkas watch or understand basketball?

You rarely have your best defend guard their best offensive player during the beginning of the game. Elite offensive players tend to be great at drawing fouls and getting your best defender in foul trouble is fukking horrific in the early game.

Not only that but Lebron isn't also the best on-ball defender, he's the best passer/on-court coach/playmaker/consistent scorer on the team so him getting into foul trouble is tantamount to crippling your overall offense.

And Lebron DOES tend to guard the most dangerous player in the 2nd half while being the defensive fulcrum due to his situational awareness ungodly high and his athletic ability allowing him to be a rim deterrent.

PS. It makes no sense for Lebron to continually be checking Melo. Melo has an offensive game that pretty ignores defenders, you just have to hope he's kinda off. Putting a good defender to foul/bother him while allowing Lebron to use his defensive IQ to be a defensive anchor is a better game plan especially when Melo's game doesn't really lend itself to explosive scoring runs. He tends to take a lot of twos after clearing out space in a very stagnant offense (Where Lebron is at his most dangerous defensively).

No. Lebron's defensive versatility, reboundingC and playmaking were pretty much vital those Heat seasons plus what would Kobe do when Wade or Bosh got injured like they did every year but the first year?

Kobe gonna play the 4 and try to guard Garnett? He gonna be efficient to make up for that lack of rebounding? You gonna have him guard David West?

Lebron anchored the Heat defense and was the fulcrum for our blitzing defense while Prime Kobe never had those responsibilities while also managing to be anywhere near as efficient which is what our entire offense was based off of.

Above @Draje is stating that LeBron anchored the Heat defense / the Heat's defensive fulcrum / the fulcrum to the Heat's blitzing defense. Which is funny because I came across this article from 2013 - Court Vision: Chris Bosh holds the Heat defense together, which states and I quote -

Few players in the league are more misunderstood than Chris Bosh, who -- despite his reputation to the contrary -- serves as the fulcrum of one of the best defensive teams in the league. Bosh is known first and foremost as a finesse scorer, but since arriving in Miami has grown into a terrific defender in space and an incredible asset for a high-wire defensive system.

Not only did @Draje bite the terminology from this article, but he had the fukkin' nerve to say that LeBron was the "fulcrum" of the defense and not Bosh, and has been using talking points from articles about Bosh's defensive roles and impact on those Heat teams and attributing them to LeBron instead.

Here's another article where he tried to give LeBron credit for the Heat's blitzing defense -

The key to Miami's defense

The Miami Heat had one of the best pick-and-roll defenses in the NBA. At the heart of it was a clear defensive philosophy that desperately needs Chris Bosh's speed. We break down how Bosh is the lynchpin for making the Heat's defense work.

They ranked first in two specific categories, though, and they go hand in hand: pick-and-roll, ball-handler defense and pick-and-roll, roll-man defense, per Synergy Sports Technology. The Heat were a team that committed to double-teaming the ball-handler on pick and roll, a high-risk strategy with a very slim margin for error that aims to disrupt a play's timing and cause turnovers. (In NBA vernacular, this is known as "blitzing" the pick and roll). It requires aggressive traps and crisp rotations from everyone involved, but the big man who has to step out to the perimeter to apply pressure is especially important. The success of that step of the process can make or break the strategy.


This is where Chris Bosh proved to be critical for the Heat.

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Look at this bullshyt.

 

[Draje]

Example 897398347983749374939 of why LeBron stans are the filth of this board - pay close attention to the bold in each of these posts:




Above @Draje is stating that LeBron anchored the Heat defense / the Heat's defensive fulcrum / the fulcrum to the Heat's blitzing defense. Which is funny because I came across this article from 2013 - Court Vision: Chris Bosh holds the Heat defense together, which states and I quote -


Not only did @Draje bite the terminology from this article, but he had the fukkin' nerve to say that LeBron was the "fulcrum" of the defense and not Bosh, and has been using talking points from articles about Bosh's defensive roles and impact on those Heat teams and attributing them to LeBron instead.

Here's another article where he tried to give LeBron credit for the Heat's blitzing defense -

The key to Miami's defense


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@GMoneyMafia

Look at this bullshyt.

Are you stupid? I've never denied Bosh's defensive impact but Lebron was the vocal defensive leader, is the player that caused the most defensive havoc, and led the blitzing defense. Of course, he could only do that because of Bosh defense was great but Lebron was the fulcrum of the defense. It's why he was the runner up DPOTY and the most dependable defensive force on our team.

Try again.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Are you stupid? I've never denied Bosh's defensive impact but Lebron was the vocal defensive leader, is the player that caused the most defensive havoc, and led the blitzing defense. Of course, he could only do that because of Bosh defense was great but Lebron was the fulcrum of the defense. It's why he was the runner up DPOTY and the most dependable defensive force on our team.

Try again.

LeBron stans y'all.

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

Example 897398347983749374939 of why LeBron stans are the filth of this board - pay close attention to the bold in each of these posts:




Above @Draje is stating that LeBron anchored the Heat defense / the Heat's defensive fulcrum / the fulcrum to the Heat's blitzing defense. Which is funny because I came across this article from 2013 - Court Vision: Chris Bosh holds the Heat defense together, which states and I quote -


Not only did @Draje bite the terminology from this article, but he had the fukkin' nerve to say that LeBron was the "fulcrum" of the defense and not Bosh, and has been using talking points from articles about Bosh's defensive roles and impact on those Heat teams and attributing them to LeBron instead.

Here's another article where he tried to give LeBron credit for the Heat's blitzing defense -

The key to Miami's defense


@CHICAGO
@Houston911
@I AM WARHOL
@Broad Street Bully
@holidayinn21
@SkiHatDaGawd
@El Coupeacabra
@Lord_Chief_Rocka
@bl2k8
@Cadillac
@SchoolboyC
@GMoneyMafia

Look at this bullshyt.

Defensive fulcrum


WOAT stanbase

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

These Lebron stans could easily get a job sitting across from Skip Bayless


Defensive fulcrum

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

These Lebron stans could easily get a job sitting across from Skip Bayless


Defensive fulcrum

He clearly read that article way back and thought 'why don't I use that, but instead of using it in its rightful context for Bosh, I'll swap him out for LeBron instead so I can push my pro-LeBron agenda on the board'. Dude blatantly took someone's else's talking points for Bosh's impact on defense and used them for LeBron.

Shameless.

 

[KingJay]

Example 897398347983749374939 of why LeBron stans are the filth of this board - pay close attention to the bold in each of these posts:




Above @Draje is stating that LeBron anchored the Heat defense / the Heat's defensive fulcrum / the fulcrum to the Heat's blitzing defense. Which is funny because I came across this article from 2013 - Court Vision: Chris Bosh holds the Heat defense together, which states and I quote -


Not only did @Draje bite the terminology from this article, but he had the fukkin' nerve to say that LeBron was the "fulcrum" of the defense and not Bosh, and has been using talking points from articles about Bosh's defensive roles and impact on those Heat teams and attributing them to LeBron instead.

Here's another article where he tried to give LeBron credit for the Heat's blitzing defense -

The key to Miami's defense


@CHICAGO
@Houston911
@I AM WARHOL
@Broad Street Bully
@holidayinn21
@SkiHatDaGawd
@El Coupeacabra
@Lord_Chief_Rocka
@bl2k8
@Cadillac
@SchoolboyC
@GMoneyMafia

Look at this bullshyt.

Bosh so under appreciated consummate team player totally willing to sacrifice his stats, reputation, and public perception for team success while putting an emphasis on the little things that don't show up in the box scores but were exactly what the Heat needed to secure Ws

 

[BigTyme Records]

MJ SHAQ and LeBron >>>>>>>>>> Kobe


Kobe is much worse than those guys in the finals

Kobe is a cheap copy of a much much better player than him

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

MJ SHAQ and LeBron >>>>>>>>>> Kobe


Kobe is much worse than those guys in the finals

Kobe is a cheap copy of a much much better player than him

Here's some attention

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Over the last few seasons, LeBron stans have:

Discredited and undervalued his teammates
Lied about his roles/impact
Changed the criteria for being the best player in the league over and over
Changed the criteria regarding the help he's had
Changed the criteria of the value of rings
Laughed at other team's title chances, that his squad ended up losing to
Regurgitated falsehoods that he's stated (e.g. never played for a superteam)
Flooded the board with pro-Lebron agitprop to persuade the board in every way possible

Basically, they're guilty of all the shyt they've accused Kobe stans of doing over the years.

 

[BigTyme Records]

As for the topic, MJ's prime was a bit more consistent than LeBron's imo ,MJ is also the best playoff performer of all time both are in my top5 but MJ has the edge

 

[Ya Sinning Mane]

Only thing bron does better than mj is rebound

im dead over here

 

[Ya Sinning Mane]

You're fukking insane if you think Bron has a better handle than MJ. You are out of your fckkng mind right now breh.

imagine bron trying half that shyt jordan did in mid air

nikka would drop like an anchor