What does Michael Jordan do better than LeBron besides score?

[hayesc0]

Well being that scoring is the most important aspect of basketball, you can say Jordan was significantly better than LeBron in the main object of basketball.

Not to say other aspects aren't as important, but the main object is to put the ball through the hoop, at which LeBron isn't even close as evidenced by Jordan's 172 40 plus-point games, compared to LeBron's sixty 40 plus-point games.

Jordan had forty-one 50-point games compared to LeBron's 9.

While some may accurately argue that LeBron is a more versatile defender, that's more due to his size and athleticism than actual skill. LeBron NEVER achieved 100 blocked shots in a single NBA season.

Jordan accomplished this feat, twice 131 blocked shots and 125 blocked shots, while also having 236 steals and 259 steals (league leading) respectively. LeBron highest was 93 blocked shots in a season and never had more than 137 steals in a season. People forget that Jordan was at one time considered the best offensive player in the NBA AND the best defensive player - as evidence by his winning Defensive Player of the Year, while also winning the Scoring Title.

Jordan has led the NBA in steals in 3 separate seasons, LeBron never. And before anyone says that steals can also reflect recklessness, that NEVER applied to Jordan - who is considered to be one of the highest IQ basketball players ever.

Jordan is a much better shooter, which again is offense, but let me elaborate, just because Lebron has a similar FG% doesn't mean he's just as good. Jordan scored at a MUCH higher clip.

Jordan was a much better Free throw shooter 84% to LeBron's 73%. LeBron also gets a little shook during free throws in clutch time, when he has time to think about the moment. Jordan NEVER got shook at the free throw line during crunch time.

Steals, Freethrows, blocked shots, scoring, and leadership goes to Jordan.

LeBron is a better rebounder and averages more assist (but a lot of players in the NBA had more rebounders and assists than Jordan).

I wouldn't necessarily say LeBron is a better play maker than Jordan, because when Jordan was switched to Point Guard in the 1988 season he averaged 32.5 ppg, on 53% shooting, with 8 rebounds (weighing 50 lbs less and 2 inches shorter than LeBron), with 8 assists, 85% from the FT line, with 3 steals per game, I challenge anyone to find a better season by LeBron.

I'll give rebounds and assists to Lebron, with the caveat that Jordan could easily average the same number of assists if he CHOSE to, like he did in 1988. LeBron couldn't score as easily as Jordan, unless refs allowed him to barrel his way to the basket.


To say "besides scoring, what else is Jordan better at" is stupid when that's pretty much the whole point of the game. It's like saying besides knocking muthaphukas out what else was Tyson good at during his prime? When the main object in boxing is to knock a muthaphuka out!!!

Nonetheless, I just educated you on what else Jordan was better at. LeBron is a better human being, he can beat Jordan on social issues. On basketball, he will never catch MJ.

I could keep going, but I'm gonna fall back.

Oh, and if you going to respond....address the FACTS that I just posted, not your opinions.

 

[Alpha Male]

scoring is not the main objective in basketball.

hypothetically speaking a guy that can score 25 and dish out 10 assists is responsible for more points than the guy that scores 30 and only dishes out 3.

plus offense and scoring is only half the game. the other half relies on defense and preventing the other team from scoring. the guy that held the 30ppg scorer to just 20 points is equally as valuable to his team as the guy that scored the most points.

lebron is a better and more willing passer than jordan and he gets his teammates more involved on offense, that's hard to dispute. the question is does that really make him 'better' overall. I'd say not really. truth be told jordan didn't need to get his guys as involved because he was such a wrecking machine on his own. and as a result of this lebron isn't nearly as effective in the clutch because he's that much easier to contain.

at the end of the day the main objective is WINNING and lebron has yet to prove he's jordans equal in that regard. if you give both guys the exact same supporting cast i think the team with Jordan at the helm wins.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

I'm not one in here saying Bron is the GOAT but do yall give him credit for anything besides "flop, whine, create super teams?"

nope

I don't give Bron credit for shyt pleighboi


Honestly if his stans stopped with the absurd and disengenous MJ comparisons I'd be inclined to chill

But since he himself has come out implied he thinks he's up there with the "chasing the ghost in Chicago" comments I'ma keep shytting on that nikka and his stans.


Anybody with a brain knows he'll never reach the heights of the GOAT, this is just facts


And no matter how many Olympic mental gymnastics Bron stans engage in and try to foist on everybody else what they want to be will never me.


I got ONE question tho....





How come none of y'all Bronsexuals refuted that MOAB ether bomb @Raw Lyrics dropped on the Bron Stan Headquarters Bunker

 

[Truefan31]

nope

I don't give Bron credit for shyt pleighboi


Honestly if his stans stopped with the absurd and disengenous MJ comparisons I'd be inclined to chill

But since he himself has come out implied he thinks he's up there with the "chasing the ghost in Chicago" comments I'ma keep shytting on that nikka and his stans.


Anybody with a brain knows he'll never reach the heights of the GOAT, this is just facts


And no matter how many Olympic mental gymnastics Bron stans engage in and try to foist on everybody else what they want to be will never me.


I got ONE question tho....





How come none of y'all Bronsexuals refuted that MOAB ether bomb @Raw Lyrics dropped on the Bron Stan Headquarters Bunker

They don't get it.

Your resume gotta be damn near impeccable before you start comparing to MJ. You can't have shyt like a losing finals record or coming up small like in 2011 (8 points, losing finals lead to Jason terry and flabby Kidd. Oh and 5 ft jj barea)
Switching teams twice to chase rings, complaining about help, resting, petitioning for a shorter season etc. nah you ain't the goat. Mofo did all that and still didn't get a threepeat out of it lol

Someone brought up MJ blocks too. MJ was a beast defender. If you didn't watch him you missed out on seriously the perfect basketball player.

Instead you get to see this

 

[Draje]

Well being that scoring is the most important aspect of basketball, you can say Jordan was significantly better than LeBron in the main object of basketball.

Not to say other aspects aren't as important, but the main object is to put the ball through the hoop, at which LeBron isn't even close as evidenced by Jordan's 172 40 plus-point games, compared to LeBron's sixty 40 plus-point games.

Jordan had forty-one 50-point games compared to LeBron's 9.

While some may accurately argue that LeBron is a more versatile defender, that's more due to his size and athleticism than actual skill. LeBron NEVER achieved 100 blocked shots in a single NBA season.

Jordan accomplished this feat, twice 131 blocked shots and 125 blocked shots, while also having 236 steals and 259 steals (league leading) respectively. LeBron highest was 93 blocked shots in a season and never had more than 137 steals in a season. People forget that Jordan was at one time considered the best offensive player in the NBA AND the best defensive player - as evidence by his winning Defensive Player of the Year, while also winning the Scoring Title.

Jordan has led the NBA in steals in 3 separate seasons, LeBron never. And before anyone says that steals can also reflect recklessness, that NEVER applied to Jordan - who is considered to be one of the highest IQ basketball players ever.

Jordan is a much better shooter, which again is offense, but let me elaborate, just because Lebron has a similar FG% doesn't mean he's just as good. Jordan scored at a MUCH higher clip.

Jordan was a much better Free throw shooter 84% to LeBron's 73%. LeBron also gets a little shook during free throws in clutch time, when he has time to think about the moment. Jordan NEVER got shook at the free throw line during crunch time.

Steals, Freethrows, blocked shots, scoring, and leadership goes to Jordan.

LeBron is a better rebounder and averages more assist (but a lot of players in the NBA had more rebounders and assists than Jordan).

I wouldn't necessarily say LeBron is a better play maker than Jordan, because when Jordan was switched to Point Guard in the 1988 season he averaged 32.5 ppg, on 53% shooting, with 8 rebounds (weighing 50 lbs less and 2 inches shorter than LeBron), with 8 assists, 85% from the FT line, with 3 steals per game, I challenge anyone to find a better season by LeBron.

I'll give rebounds and assists to Lebron, with the caveat that Jordan could easily average the same number of assists if he CHOSE to, like he did in 1988. LeBron couldn't score as easily as Jordan, unless refs allowed him to barrel his way to the basket.


To say "besides scoring, what else is Jordan better at" is stupid when that's pretty much the whole point of the game. It's like saying besides knocking muthaphukas out what else was Tyson good at during his prime? When the main object in boxing is to knock a muthaphuka out!!!

Nonetheless, I just educated you on what else Jordan was better at. LeBron is a better human being, he can beat Jordan on social issues. On basketball, he will never catch MJ.

I could keep going, but I'm gonna fall back.

Oh, and if you going to respond....address the FACTS that I just posted, not your opinions.

Blah, this is a long post so I'll condense most of this.

-You're right. Lebron isn't as good as Jordan. I completely agree with you on that.

-Lebron is definitely a more versatile defender but you also got to realize that MJ's stats came in an era where he's allowed to handcheck and be more physical with defenders. If Lebron could handcheck and be as physical he is, he'd probably be a DPOTY candidate defender. Nonetheless, I never think blocks and steals are a great way to measure defensive impact especially when you have to account for pace.

-Lebron is a much better three point shooter and distance shooter than Jordan. It doesn't really matter overall but acting like this isn't true is stupid. Jordan is much better at midrange shooting and a much better scorer overall.

-Lebron is a better passer and has better overall court vision than Jordan. This is one of things that's just beyond stats in the same way that Jordan's scoring goes beyond just what numbers show you. It's not even in the highlights but how Lebron can consistently get the bell to where he needs it to go, in a variety of situations, but almost always in the shooting pocket of his shooters. Jordan could rack up assists and Lebron could probably drop 35 PPG on 44 to 46% FG but it wouldn't really matter.

All this being said, Lebron is an elite offensive player. He's an elite scorer, a GOAT-passer, and one of the best all-around offensive talents we've ever seen. He's not Jordan though and he's not as good as Jordan. There's no debate to be had here. Being better in Jordan in some offensive and defensive aspects doesn't matter because Jordan is still elite in those while being the GOAT scorer.

 

[Reggie]

Might literally be the worst handles highlight tape I've ever seen

Show me one better from a man 6'8 260 plus pounds.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Show me one better from a man 6'8 260 plus pounds.

Lol here come the qualifiers. He said got a good handle for someone his size but it's nothing to write home about. It gets the job done but nikkas in here wanna act like he has some advanced handle . posting that struggle highlight tape like it's supposed to impress people

 

[Draje]

Lol here come the qualifiers. He said got a good handle for someone his size but it's nothing to write home about. It gets the job done but nikkas in here wanna act like he has some advanced handle . posting that struggle highlight tape like it's supposed to impress people

Lebron has a great handle. You dudes confuse fancy dribble moves with a handle. Lebron is able to get anywhere he wants in the court, is extremely hard to rip in individual ISO sets, and gets into the lane at will. He focuses more on efficient moves (Same with his scoring) than anything else but he's still an extremely talented ball handler.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Lebron has a great handle. You dudes confuse fancy dribble moves with a handle. Lebron is able to get anywhere he wants in the court, is extremely hard to rip in individual ISO sets, and gets into the lane at will. He focuses more on efficient moves (Same with his scoring) than anything else but he's still an extremely talented ball handler.

Breh is literally tripping over himself in half of those highlights. He has a solid practical handle. But its not special. He gets anywhere on the court because hes bigger, faster, stronger than anyone you put in front of him plus he has a SOLID handle. He's not pulling off high level dribble moves breh. Im not saying he has a bad handle but its really nothing special

 

[FabTrey]

Blah, this is a long post so I'll condense most of this.

-You're right. Lebron isn't as good as Jordan. I completely agree with you on that.

-Lebron is definitely a more versatile defender but you also got to realize that MJ's stats came in an era where he's allowed to handcheck and be more physical with defenders. If Lebron could handcheck and be as physical he is, he'd probably be a DPOTY candidate defender. Nonetheless, I never think blocks and steals are a great way to measure defensive impact especially when you have to account for pace.

-Lebron is a much better three point shooter and distance shooter than Jordan. It doesn't really matter overall but acting like this isn't true is stupid. Jordan is much better at midrange shooting and a much better scorer overall.

-Lebron is a better passer and has better overall court vision than Jordan. This is one of things that's just beyond stats in the same way that Jordan's scoring goes beyond just what numbers show you. It's not even in the highlights but how Lebron can consistently get the bell to where he needs it to go, in a variety of situations, but almost always in the shooting pocket of his shooters. Jordan could rack up assists and Lebron could probably drop 35 PPG on 44 to 46% FG but it wouldn't really matter.

All this being said, Lebron is an elite offensive player. He's an elite scorer, a GOAT-passer, and one of the best all-around offensive talents we've ever seen. He's not Jordan though and he's not as good as Jordan. There's no debate to be had here. Being better in Jordan in some offensive and defensive aspects doesn't matter because Jordan is still elite in those while being the GOAT scorer.

so bron is the GOAT passer now?




you bron stans make me puke. seriously

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Blah, this is a long post so I'll condense most of this.

-You're right. Lebron isn't as good as Jordan. I completely agree with you on that.

-Lebron is definitely a more versatile defender but you also got to realize that MJ's stats came in an era where he's allowed to handcheck and be more physical with defenders. If Lebron could handcheck and be as physical he is, he'd probably be a DPOTY candidate defender. Nonetheless, I never think blocks and steals are a great way to measure defensive impact especially when you have to account for pace.

-Lebron is a much better three point shooter and distance shooter than Jordan. It doesn't really matter overall but acting like this isn't true is stupid. Jordan is much better at midrange shooting and a much better scorer overall.

-Lebron is a better passer and has better overall court vision than Jordan. This is one of things that's just beyond stats in the same way that Jordan's scoring goes beyond just what numbers show you. It's not even in the highlights but how Lebron can consistently get the bell to where he needs it to go, in a variety of situations, but almost always in the shooting pocket of his shooters. Jordan could rack up assists and Lebron could probably drop 35 PPG on 44 to 46% FG but it wouldn't really matter.

All this being said, Lebron is an elite offensive player. He's an elite scorer, a GOAT-passer, and one of the best all-around offensive talents we've ever seen. He's not Jordan though and he's not as good as Jordan. There's no debate to be had here. Being better in Jordan in some offensive and defensive aspects doesn't matter because Jordan is still elite in those while being the GOAT scorer.

lotta reaching going on here

in terms of three point shooting is .342 really much better than .327? Bron and MJ are .015 percentage points apart. Kyle Korver is shooting 45% from three this year to Steph's 40% does that indeed make him a much MUCH better three point shooter than Curry
as stated earlier, MJ came up in a league that wasn't shooting as many threes, especially earl in his career, so just for the sake of argument if we're gonna take hypothetical situations such as the one you posit with Bron being a DPOY candidate due to the ability to handcheck then you have to accept the hypothetical that MJ would have been better at three point shooting if it was something that was implemented as part of the game more league wide during his run. which would nullify one of your points against MJ, that Bron was this vastly better three point shooter.



also, what the hell is "distance shooting", it's something that 's not a three but not in the paint right? which would make that pretty much by definition mid range right? I mean what else could it be
you already said Jordan is much better at mid range so did you essentially contradict yourself trying too hard to make this nikka Bron better at something


you said at the end that there's really no debate and that Jordan is better than Bron yet here you are in this thread hemming and hawing trying to make your feelings facts

thanks for wasting your time and everybody else's

 

[Truefan31]

lotta reaching going on here

in terms of three point shooting is .342 really much better than .327? Bron and MJ are .015 percentage points apart. Kyle Korver is shooting 45% from three this year to Steph's 40% does that indeed make him a much MUCH better three point shooter than Curry
as stated earlier, MJ came up in a league that wasn't shooting as many threes, especially earl in his career, so just for the sake of argument if we're gonna take hypothetical situations such as the one you posit with Bron being a DPOY candidate due to the ability to handcheck then you have to accept the hypothetical that MJ would have been better at three point shooting if it was something that was implemented as part of the game more league wide during his run. which would nullify one of your points against MJ, that Bron was this vastly better three point shooter.



also, what the hell is "distance shooting", it's something that 's not a three but not in the paint right? which would make that pretty much definition make that mid range right? I mean what else could it be
you already said Jordan is much better at mid range so did you essentially contradict yourself trying to hard to make this nikka Bron better at someting


you said at the end that there's really no debate and that Jordan is better than Bron yet here you are in this thread hemming and hawing trying to make your feelings facts

thanks for wasting your time and everybody else's

Meanwhile MJ got a 33% playoff 3pt career to lebron got 32%

 

[Mars]

Micheal Jordan,greatest basketball player of all time....Lebron James,greatest difference maker of all time.

 

[Shadow King]

nope

I don't give Bron credit for shyt pleighboi

Rest of the post is irrelevant

so bron is the GOAT passer now?




you bron stans make me puke. seriously

He said A GOAT passer not THE

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Rest of the post is irrelevant

your ing is irrelevant


matter of fact you haven't added jack shyt to this thread besides crying and Bron dikkeating