What does actual police reform look like?

[Piff Perkins]

-Civilian review boards with firing power
-Mandatory bodycams. Not operating a camera is a suspendable offense, and all cam data can be obtained by request.
- Settlements paid out from union dues/private insurance policies/pension funds.
-Abolition of qualified immunity and civil asset forfeiture.

all of this

You don't even need to massively cut police budgets. These policies, plus modest budget cuts, will significantly reduce the current force and lower applications. Becoming a police officer should no longer be a job for burnouts and losers. If you want to be a police officer it should be because you want to serve/protect your community. Not because you're too dumb to sell insurance and are tired of working construction.

(BTW the Supreme Court created qualified immunity. Another reason that voting for PRESIDENT matters - as well as demanding presidential candidates commit to judges who are at least open to shyt canning the legal precedent for it).

Of course none of this addresses the bigger problem of judges and prosecutors who have incentivized the protection of police, as well as over zealous conviction rates on non-violent crimes. How do you get rid of them? I'd look to San Francisco's attorney general, Chesa Boudin, for insight. Dude won the AG race and fired nearly 10 state prosecutors within 48 hours of being sworn in. His office refuses to charge people for contraband found during bullshyt traffic stops. He's seeking to ban police union money from entering prosecutor election races. Police hate him, and likely want him dead. If people were more serious about voting, election attorney generals like that could become far more common.

 

[Hood Critic]

 

[the cac mamba]

If cac mamba thinks it's a bad idea that probably means it's the right thing to do.

fair enough

what did i say was a bad idea though

 

[the cac mamba]

@Alive in 85 im sorry, didnt you just call me out about this?

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Is suppose you start by asking, what % of these police forces are bad apples?

the blue apples are the bad ones

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

@Alive in 85 im sorry, didnt you just call me out about this?

Did you even read that article? It's basically saying what I posted above.



I know you're not going to read it, but: I'm a Minneapolis City Council Member. We Must Disband the Police—Here's What Could Come Next

 

[the cac mamba]

I know you're not going to read it, but: I'm a Minneapolis City Council Member. We Must Disband the Police—Here's What Could Come Next

good article

i dont know what they replace them with, it doesnt say in the article. but it would be good to see them try

 

[DEAD7]

Well, well, well, we have reached 'disbanding the police' huh?
Communities policing themselves you say...
This has taken an unexpected(but welcome) turn indeed

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Body cams on at all times. Felony charges for any officer tampering with or trying to dismantle their cams.

Possibly allowing the public access to body cam footage if there are any complaints.

An easy way for citizens to file complaints about harassment or police brutality into a system or database that must have some sort of review by people that don’t work for the police department

Automatic special prosecutors to handle cases against police officers charged with violent crimes, in order to avoid favorable treatment.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

A realistic change would be to stop training them like they’re supposed to act like an occupying force. Be friendly, treat people with respect.

they cry about the risk but fukk that. They gladly soak up the hero worship when it comes. In Afghanistan we were trained to be friendly and respectful to everyone until they’re actually shooting at you...and we were. No reason police can’t do the same.

My battalion had one dude shoot someone without cause...he’s still in jail.

Also a lot of them sign up for the risk/danger/adrenaline rush. They accept the dangerous job, and they should accept that it comes with more responsibility and steeper consequences if they fukk up.

 

[Bunchy Carter]

Politicians, Presidents, Police Dept., civilians and Etc. have been talking about police reform since 1994 and nothing has changed. Police reform is an old trick that is nothing but empty words.

Justice Department Releases Report on Civil Rights Division’s Pattern and Practice Police Reform Work

The Justice Department released a comprehensive report today that provides an overview of the Civil Rights Division’s police reform work under Section 14141 of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994.

The report, “The Civil Rights Division’s Pattern and Practice Police Reform Work: 1994-Present,” is designed to serve as a resource for local law enforcement agencies and communities by making the division’s police reform work more accessible and transparent. It examines a range of topics, including the history and purpose of Section 14141, initiation and methodology of pattern-or-practice investigations, negotiation of reform agreements, the current reform model and its rationale, conclusion of agreements and the impact of pattern-or-practice enforcement on police reform and community-police trust. To supplement the report, the division also published an interactive Police Reform Finder, which allows users to search how reform agreements have addressed specific kinds of policing issues.

“Over the years, countless law enforcement officials and community members have requested additional information about the Civil Rights Division’s policing work,” said Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Vanita Gupta, head of the Civil Rights Division. “We hope stakeholders find our report and interactive tool useful in our collective efforts to advance constitutional policing, strengthen police-community trust and promote officer and public safety.”

Since 2009, the Civil Rights Division has opened 25 investigations into law enforcement agencies and is currently enforcing 19 agreements, including 14 consent decrees and one post-judgment order.

Via: Justice Department Releases Report on Civil Rights Division’s Pattern and Practice Police Reform Work
Via PDF of the Report: https://www.justice.gov/crt/file/922421/download

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

fair enough

what did i say was a bad idea though

Just messing with you




Edit: At the same time i applaud what theyre doing with the Minneapolis PD and hope it happens locally other places.

 

[jj23]

 

[jj23]

Well, well, well, we have reached 'disbanding the police' huh?
Communities policing themselves you say...
This has taken an unexpected(but welcome) turn indeed

Lol. What was said there has nothing to do with the privatise the police force solution you like to tout.

 

[skylove4]

Not sure how you get this through with such powerful union opposition, but I like the idea...

Destroy the police union. Simple