Mindfield333
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Not recasting Tchalla
What do yall think is the reason for Marvel’s downfall
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Laidbackman
All Star
When White people fond out those super heroes were really Black 
Fukk super hero fatigue
It was cheesy movies
They turned Thor into attempted cheesy comedy shyt
They chose some LGBTQ shyt & girl power nonsense
It was cheesy movies
They turned Thor into attempted cheesy comedy shyt
They chose some LGBTQ shyt & girl power nonsense
Days of Future Piff
Superstar
Some of y’all make a good point that Marvel lost so much of its best creative talent.
RDJ and Chris Evans, are gone, and Chadwick Boseman (
) left us too soon.
The Russos moved on, Joss Whedon got cancelled, Stan Lee passed away, James Gunn left Marvel for DC, and Kevin Feige is on autopilot.
Now all we’re left with are a bunch of Rick and Morty writers.
If they ruin X-men, it’s a WRAP for Marvel.
RDJ and Chris Evans, are gone, and Chadwick Boseman (
) left us too soon.The Russos moved on, Joss Whedon got cancelled, Stan Lee passed away, James Gunn left Marvel for DC, and Kevin Feige is on autopilot.
Now all we’re left with are a bunch of Rick and Morty writers.
If they ruin X-men, it’s a WRAP for Marvel.
Some of y’all make a good point that Marvel lost so much of its best creative talent.
RDJ and Chris Evans, are gone, and Chadwick Boseman (
The Russos moved on, Joss Whedon got cancelled, Stan Lee passed away, James Gunn left Marvel for DC, and Kevin Feige is on autopilot.
Now all we’re left with are a bunch of Rick and Morty writers.
If they ruin X-men, it’s a WRAP for Marvel.
At worst we’ll probably just return back to the days of Spidey, Batman, and maybe Supes. Being the only superhero properties that studios are willingly to take risks on. The DCEU/Gunn verse entire existence is probably riding on Superman Legacy’s success. And the mcu is probably banking on the X-men.
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Mission249
All Star
1. No replacement for Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Evans
2. Bad writing
3. No overall story as simple as the infinity stones
4. Too much content
2a. They gotta stop trying to inject James Gunn and Thor 3 style humor into every movie. Undercuts all the drama constantly. And none of the new people are as witty as Stark or Loki.
2b. They gotta stop thinking pandering to women or minorities is a replacement for good characterization. They think they have a built-in audience for something like Ironheart - they don't.
Basically, they learned the wrong lesson from Guardians of the Galaxy's success. If you got a story to tell and a vision for the tone, then sure use C list characters. Otherwise? Nah.
As soon as we saw the next phase had Ironheart, Agatha and Echo, we should've known what's up.
2. Bad writing
3. No overall story as simple as the infinity stones
4. Too much content
2a. They gotta stop trying to inject James Gunn and Thor 3 style humor into every movie. Undercuts all the drama constantly. And none of the new people are as witty as Stark or Loki.
2b. They gotta stop thinking pandering to women or minorities is a replacement for good characterization. They think they have a built-in audience for something like Ironheart - they don't.
Basically, they learned the wrong lesson from Guardians of the Galaxy's success. If you got a story to tell and a vision for the tone, then sure use C list characters. Otherwise? Nah.
As soon as we saw the next phase had Ironheart, Agatha and Echo, we should've known what's up.
Rasille
(Rah.Zil.E)
They stretched themselves too thin and over saturation is the problem. Before it was simple when all you had to do was watch the movies and for the most part the movies were self contained. But now you need to watch this show and that show, this special and that special on top of the movies as well, it was too much. Then the projects themselves weren’t good, there was a dip in the quality.
Mortal1
Superstar
Bad writing
get my pool
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Too much focus on characters people aren’t familiar with
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
Oversaturation of bad projects, movies and shows alike. If they were making good content all these other "issues" wouldn't be issues.
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
For example, GOTG Vol. 3 was a good movie, finale to a beloved trilogy. It did really well at the box office. But most of the movies and shows haven't done shyt lately because they've been garbage.
Too many TV series to follow, spread too wide without the star power, I don't hate diversity efforts but they aren't bringing the audience together like Avengers did but fragmenting it, general fatigue, corny humor that goes dry after like 20 projects etc
They need some edge, Blade will help, a good X Men that tackles modern society issues will help. I like Spiderman but I'm kind of over the Tom Holland vibe, make it a bit darker.
It's hard to get Disney to do this because they sell lunchboxes at the end of the day, but some grit and adult appeal will make these interesting again. Let the kids have animated series or spinoffs on D+, let the main canon have some grit.
Maybe that's just late 30s
me, but we drove this MCU bus and we've now grown up and want content that speak to us
They need some edge, Blade will help, a good X Men that tackles modern society issues will help. I like Spiderman but I'm kind of over the Tom Holland vibe, make it a bit darker.
It's hard to get Disney to do this because they sell lunchboxes at the end of the day, but some grit and adult appeal will make these interesting again. Let the kids have animated series or spinoffs on D+, let the main canon have some grit.
Maybe that's just late 30s
me, but we drove this MCU bus and we've now grown up and want content that speak to us
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