cartierhoe
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Flooded the market with too much "content", when a lot of it was mid at best. Especially on the Disney+ side, it just ended up being quantity over quality.
What do yall think is the reason for Marvel’s downfall
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Days of Future Piff
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Marvel got way too comfortable after Endgame and they flooded the market with mediocrity.
They don’t have a gameplan and there’s no main attraction since almost all of the best characters are either dead (Iron Man, Black Panther), retired (Steve Rogers), or they went soft (Thor and Hulk).
The Avengers broke up. The Guardians broke up. Spider-man is partially owned by Sony. They’re taking WAY too long with all the characters people really want (Fantastic Four, X-men, Blade).
They’re taking too much influence from these new millennium post-2010 fanfic writers instead of the Jim Shooter era, and it feels like they’re only writing these movies for Twitter instead of their actual fans.
They don’t have a gameplan and there’s no main attraction since almost all of the best characters are either dead (Iron Man, Black Panther), retired (Steve Rogers), or they went soft (Thor and Hulk).
The Avengers broke up. The Guardians broke up. Spider-man is partially owned by Sony. They’re taking WAY too long with all the characters people really want (Fantastic Four, X-men, Blade).
They’re taking too much influence from these new millennium post-2010 fanfic writers instead of the Jim Shooter era, and it feels like they’re only writing these movies for Twitter instead of their actual fans.
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1. Disney+ - Disney want Marvel to pump out much content as they can irrespective of quality. So trash like Secret Invasion gets released.
2. Letting LGBT writers and misandrists into the writers/production room - Comic book movies are essentially action movies, people don't watch them to see an emasculated/incompetent male lead action hero.
3. They lost Iron Man, Captain America, Black Panther and The Russos and didn't replace them immediately with the X-MEN and a good director.
Deadpool 3 will be good as it's not a real Disney produced movie but that's it
2. Letting LGBT writers and misandrists into the writers/production room - Comic book movies are essentially action movies, people don't watch them to see an emasculated/incompetent male lead action hero.
3. They lost Iron Man, Captain America, Black Panther and The Russos and didn't replace them immediately with the X-MEN and a good director.
Deadpool 3 will be good as it's not a real Disney produced movie but that's it
FromStLouis
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Simu Liu as Shang Chi was such a stupid casting choice. It signaled no ambitions for the character, content to introduce a C-Level character and have him stay a C-Level character.
Heavy_Handz
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Over saturation.
The led with most of the best characters and stories early on and now they’re trying to capitalize on these less interesting characters. There’s a reason Marvel was facing bankruptcy back before Disney came along, because outside of diehard comic book heads most of the general public only really know and care about the best of the best of Marvel characters and stories.
I think they’ll bounce back with the FF and Doom arrival and especially the X-Men universe of characters and stories…ie when they get back to more of the best of the best of Marvel. I agree that it didn’t help they they lost or let a lot of these known actors who embodied these roles go. Comic books have always been a niche thing so this fall off was bound to happen.
I think they’ll bounce back with the FF and Doom arrival and especially the X-Men universe of characters and stories…ie when they get back to more of the best of the best of Marvel. I agree that it didn’t help they they lost or let a lot of these known actors who embodied these roles go. Comic books have always been a niche thing so this fall off was bound to happen.
BelieveBeOK
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The casual appeal is gone.
Even at it's height, I had to drag my girlfriend/friends to watch Avengers movies with me.
Imagine me asking somebody to watch Marvels/Ant-man with me. Not gonna happen. These are characters 90% of people have never heard of.
They need to fast track Blade, Fantastic 4 and X-Men whilst peppering Spider-Man in between.
Even at it's height, I had to drag my girlfriend/friends to watch Avengers movies with me.
Imagine me asking somebody to watch Marvels/Ant-man with me. Not gonna happen. These are characters 90% of people have never heard of.
They need to fast track Blade, Fantastic 4 and X-Men whilst peppering Spider-Man in between.
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King Harlem
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I hope they can figure it out. As a big film fan, the Marvel events were fun. Everybody discussing it, the large numbers of people being excited to see these films, everyone trying to avoid spoilers. Oppenheimer and the Barbie movie had similar buzz this year but its not the same.
I was over it in infinity war 
Kingshango
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Over saturation
Disney+
Hiring Tumblr fan fiction writers.
Disney+
Hiring Tumblr fan fiction writers.
Peter Popoff
Baba Yega in black uptowns
Racism due to pandering and overt feminism.
Too much content + the movie industry being down.
I've said this ad nauseum but MCU movies are currently #4 ("GOTG Vol. 3) and #10 ("Ant-Man 3") top world wide box office for the year. And "Ant-Man 3" was obviously considered a flop.
People are saying Marvel is in trouble (and it is) but acting as if covid didn't happen.
Fred.
I've said this ad nauseum but MCU movies are currently #4 ("GOTG Vol. 3) and #10 ("Ant-Man 3") top world wide box office for the year. And "Ant-Man 3" was obviously considered a flop.
People are saying Marvel is in trouble (and it is) but acting as if covid didn't happen.
Fred.
