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In other words no. This explanation is bland, namedropping of better characters aside. Like Ichigo's "regularness" isn't written to be endearing or played off of like Saitama ignoring monsters to shop discount groceries. Its just evidence of a protagonist that wasnt given much thought beyond the design. :manny:



Like forreal this flowery juelzing could easily apply to any fantasy protagonist "yeah he's just a cool guy who fights for his friends n stuff." What about this is unique or compelling? What about this screams "Ichigo" beyond the picture? For example


-A regular boy who idolizes a superhero and dreams of saving people like he does despite being talentless, then is suddenly given the chance to be his protege.

-A boy who looks up to the freedom of pirates because of a man who lost his arm saving his life sets out on a journey to find a legendary treasure and the title that belonged to the most powerful man in the world.

-A regular guy who has become so strong he's become a superhero out of boredom and is now having an identity crisis.

-A regular teenage punk with no value for his own life dies saving a kid & is given a second lease on life to hunt spirits and find his place in the world.

-A boy on a journey who single mindedly seeks to meet his father who is at the top of the most dangerous profession to find out what about the job was so fun that he abandoned his son.

-A boy shunned in his village because of a curse who then aims to be their leader to redeem himself.

-A martial artist from an alien race who defends the earth simply to satisfy his urge to challenge himself.


















































A regular guy who got a sword and now fights for his friends :mjlol:

:unimpressed:

Some people get it, some people don't. You asked a question, I explained my answer, end of. Definitely not here to try and change your mind.
 

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Some people get it, some people don't. You asked a question, I explained my answer, end of. Definitely not here to try and change your mind.
A regular guy unexpectedly thrust into a life he didnt expect and now fights for his friends. :ohhh:





That can only describe one man......





























The one and only












I mean who else could it be?















































































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^ your picture doesn't load. :russ:

Also, I gotta respect you @Kenny West for reading that long ass post about Bleach. I couldn't imagine myself ever putting in time into anything Bleach related.
 

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Am i buggin or were the Anbu a complete joke in Naruto?

them nikkas aint do a cotdamn thing except breed nikkas who all end up sayin fukk yall and go do some dark shyt :mjlol: never did anything worth talking about in the series, did they even attempt to draft anyone we know of? dropped the ball on giving them a whole arc to show up sumn
Kishi fukked them up when he decided to use them as a way for other characters to show they were strong.

"Look how strong Kabuto is! He can body 3 anbus at the same time :ooh:"

"Orochimaru is powerful! Bodied 20 anbus in that flashback :whoo:"

Anbus basically became a litmut test to show a character was strong so they spent all their time getting bodied
 

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I feel the same. Watching season 3 was a chore for me, and haven’t even started season 4.

AoT just doesnt make sense to me anymore, caught a few episode of the new season on Toonami but was just confused as hell

It lost steam for me somewhere in S3

Yeah, I lost interest in AoT somewhere mid-season 2 and thought the first part of season 3 was an absolute bore. Second part of season 3 was good though and this season seems like it's finally catching up to its original potential.
What happened for the 1st part of season 3 is that they restructured it (under the supervision of the mangaka) to make it smoother, but it ended up being way worse by popular opinion.

I felt the exact same as yall and stopped watching it, but somebody advised me to read the manga for that part and ngl... This is now my favorite part of the series lowkey :ohlawd: it was done way better in the manga. Clearer, more tension, better pacing, you really feel the stakes are great.

In the anime it feels like filler imo
 

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Itadori a cool ass dude but I don't necessarily disagree.

JJK doesn't need its MC to carry it thank god

Mecha he could Luffy his way into a halfway decent defense but Panda? Hell nawl.

:camby:

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Probably gonna go with the breh 42 and Godling on this one. Fushiguro has a much more interesting backstory, power-set (from what we've seen so far), and there are still a lot of layers to uncover with his character/personality/goals/etc. imo.

Hell if they went with the prologue breh
Okkotsu
that shyt would have been piff as fukk because his shyt was on 11 the whole time :whew:
 

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If you don't like Ichigo's motivations, I think that's fine but at the very least you have to admit the character stands on his own 2 feet. :yeshrug:
A lot of shounen protagonists are really expys of each other with the only difference being topical changes to meet their world.

XYZ character wants to hold top revered position of XYZ position of their world. Why will this happen? Because they said so. They will yell this from the rooftops or to anyone who will listen. They will be champions of justice as well, and push power of friendship.

Asta (of the Big 3 Petit Clover word to @Bryan Danielson), Deku, Luffy, Naruto, Toriko, etc. minus whale (coli grammar) be the same character if we are keeping it 100. Black Star from Soul Eater falls under this too, but they actually play with this trope by making him like this as a form of compensating for his own issues and insecurities.

Ichigo not having this larger than life ambition of hailing as the GOAT but rather having ambitions more set in reality (such as graduating college and moving up in the world while dealing with growing up and interactions with friends & foes) was to make him more relatable. One punch man juxtaposes a super mundane existence with over the top power for comedy; Ichigo doesn't really attempt to do this.

Also I'm not trying to hear this from a MHA perspective :rudy: Deku outright contradicts what his own character is built up to be all the time. He's supposed to want to save everyone but gave no fukks about that and was just a stan watching highlights until allmight gave him 1FA. He's supposed to be a "strategist who studies everyone" but threw that in the bushes to just hulk on everyone after 1 season. He couldn't even figure out how to not KO himself until the tech lady gave him timbs :camby:
 

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If you don't like Ichigo's motivations, I think that's fine but at the very least you have to admit the character stands on his own 2 feet. :yeshrug:
A lot of shounen protagonists are really expys of each other with the only difference being topical changes to meet their world.

XYZ character wants to hold top revered position of XYZ position of their world. Why will this happen? Because they said so. They will yell this from the rooftops or to anyone who will listen. They will be champions of justice as well, and push power of friendship.

Asta (of the Big 3 Petit Clover word to @Bryan Danielson), Deku, Luffy, Naruto, Toriko, etc. minus whale (coli grammar) be the same character if we are keeping it 100. Black Star from Soul Eater falls under this too, but they actually play with this trope by making him like this as a form of compensating for his own issues and insecurities.

Ichigo not having this larger than life ambition of hailing as the GOAT but rather having ambitions more set in reality (such as graduating college and moving up in the world while dealing with growing up and interactions with friends & foes) was to make him more relatable. One punch man juxtaposes a super mundane existence with over the top power for comedy; Ichigo doesn't really attempt to do this.

Also I'm not trying to hear this from a MHA perspective :rudy: Deku outright contradicts what his own character is built up to be all the time. He's supposed to want to save everyone but gave no fukks about that and was just a stan watching highlights until allmight gave him 1FA. He's supposed to be a "strategist who studies everyone" but threw that in the bushes to just hulk on everyone after 1 season. He couldn't even figure out how to not KO himself until the tech lady gave him timbs :camby:
-Says Ichigo stands on own two feet

- 80% of the post is talking down on the entire genre to try make the point


I rest my case:unimpressed:


I am enjoying this rewriting of history as if Kubo was purposely crafting an everyman's hero tho. No examples or anything. Bleach didnt even maintain school life aspect. At some point the entire show was taking place in other worlds.:laff:


I can write essays on how Luffy's/Asta's/Deku's character relates to their mission outside of just being the main character and fighting to protect someone.
 

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If you don't like Ichigo's motivations, I think that's fine but at the very least you have to admit the character stands on his own 2 feet. :yeshrug:
A lot of shounen protagonists are really expys of each other with the only difference being topical changes to meet their world.

XYZ character wants to hold top revered position of XYZ position of their world. Why will this happen? Because they said so. They will yell this from the rooftops or to anyone who will listen. They will be champions of justice as well, and push power of friendship.

Asta (of the Big 3 Petit Clover word to @Bryan Danielson), Deku, Luffy, Naruto, Toriko, etc. minus whale (coli grammar) be the same character if we are keeping it 100. Black Star from Soul Eater falls under this too, but they actually play with this trope by making him like this as a form of compensating for his own issues and insecurities.

Ichigo not having this larger than life ambition of hailing as the GOAT but rather having ambitions more set in reality (such as graduating college and moving up in the world while dealing with growing up and interactions with friends & foes) was to make him more relatable. One punch man juxtaposes a super mundane existence with over the top power for comedy; Ichigo doesn't really attempt to do this.

Also I'm not trying to hear this from a MHA perspective :rudy: Deku outright contradicts what his own character is built up to be all the time. He's supposed to want to save everyone but gave no fukks about that and was just a stan watching highlights until allmight gave him 1FA. He's supposed to be a "strategist who studies everyone" but threw that in the bushes to just hulk on everyone after 1 season. He couldn't even figure out how to not KO himself until the tech lady gave him timbs :camby:
Eeh, I would add a qualification for Naruto. His goal of becoming a Hokage is really just a pretext for a breh trying to create relationships with others.

Even in the way he beats his nemeses it's really more about convincing them of the flaws in their reasoning and incarnating a way out rather than just beating them.

But I hear you regarding Ichigo. It's been more than a decade since I have watched Bleach so I need to rewatch anyways.
 

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Even if he's just a means to meeting other characters with more depth, Itadori is still a fun character you can root for. The charismatic borderline dumbass with heart.

For me, with how they've been slow-building this upcoming confrontation between Satoru Gojo and whatever the villains have planned to take him off the grid, i just hope they do a better job of executing it (and giving grittier consequences) than what we saw transpire with All Might years back..

... i.e. the sensei of the protagonist has a slow-build up where we know some shyt (in this case his injury/identity/waning powers) was gonna reach a turning point that "could" turn the series on it's head, but in the case of MHA, the consequences afterwards were kinda light
 
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