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I’ve completed Death Note. Here’s what I thought about that second half.

(SPOILERS)

My honest opinion is that it’s a GREAT show and concludes as it should. The main character has it coming and I see no other way to have justifiably ended his reign of terror.

L’s legacy wins and I grew to like him a lot as a character. Especially when he called Light a friend (whether it was authentic or not, they definitely had a great deal of respect for one another)

No, N isn’t L by a long shot but that wasn’t the point to begin with. I don’t feel comparing the two is necessarily needed to have a complete review even. They share similarities in ways of thinking due to obvious reasons but aside from that it’s a different story after L dies. It’s a nice touch that even after life... L is the downfall of Kira ultimately.

Ryuk did the most Ryuk shyt possible at the end. It made sense. Easy come, easy go. They were both simply bored. As above, so below.

This is one of the shortest series I’ve ever watched and can find myself watching again. I usually don’t watch ANYTHING twice.

Agreed
I was never one of those cats that thought the 2nd half weaker. You needed both to complete the story and it ended like it should have.
 

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took a while to think of a top 20 WOAT list. I have less shytty anime in my completed catalog than I thought.

my list would go something like -

Elfen Lied
Berserk 2016
Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro Chan
Gantz
Tenjou Tenge
Hatsukoi Monster

*gap*

Oruchuban Ebichu
Sukinayo
Seiren
Onegai Teacher
Peter Grill
One Room
Dragon Ball GT
Sasameki Koto
Koi to Uso
Rumbling Hearts
Naruto The Last
Maison Ikkoku Kanketsu-Hen...apart from the original TV series, which is a classic
the two seasons of Sword Art Online I watched
Irresponsible Galaxy Tylor...not to be mistaken for Captain Tylor


some of those have good manga. Adaptation just sucks.

Tenjho Tenge still catching strays a decade later :mjlol:....:francis:. That anime was a mess and the manga was very sloppy but he had some great art and a few coherent story lines buried in there. I wish some of the later fights got animated. Exorcist Tawara vs Shin >>>> :wow: Used to run that clip back on YouTube all the time :wow:


I'm still salty about Air Gear,that shyt was popular and the anime just stopped :mjtf:. Manga went off rails but again great art and an overall stayed coherent much longer

What happened to Oh Great?
 

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Agreed
I was never one of those cats that thought the 2nd half weaker. You needed both to complete the story and it ended like it should have.
I can't speak for everyone but my problem with the 2nd half has little to do with the direction of the story, which made sense, and everything with the execution of it. The best way I can put it is that the first part is like an intricate chess game with Light and L being grandmasters, then the next match-up is checkers and Light somehow can't look more than one move ahead anymore. It just never felt right how he was written in the last part of the series.

Still an all-time legendary series though. :hubie:
 

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I can't speak for everyone but my problem with the 2nd half has little to do with the direction of the story, which made sense, and everything with the execution of it. The best way I can put it is that the first part is like an intricate chess game with Light and L being grandmasters, then the next match-up is checkers and Light somehow can't look more than one move ahead anymore. It just never felt right how he was written in the last part of the series.

Still an all-time legendary series though. :hubie:

and thats the thing, I don't think the 2nd could have been executed any better. The 1st half was just that damn good. It was never gonna live up to the 1st half.
 

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Yeah, Demon Slayer is probably the perfect example of what you describe.

For the others though... My critique about their writing goes a little deeper than that.

Personally, I might not mind that much a story being generic and relying on tired tropes. I'm not requiring them to be innovative like that (up to a certain extent).

My thing is, I feel like they're not even using the formula well.

Maybe this is because for a trope to well exploited, it has to fit in an overall well structured narrative. And since the web on which rely the tropes is falling apart due to poor writing, they collapse as well. It's probably part of the problem. I saw this especially in My Hero Academia which consistently tries to go for classic moments (reusing known tropes) without appropriate build up and repeatedly misses the mark.

Other times, it reads like a kid fanfiction trying to imitate what a manga is like - here I'm thinking about the Jujutsu Kaisen's character development scenes that just don't make no sense. The tropes are not the problem. It's just badly written.

Appreciate the response. You hitting the nail on Boku no hero. I was fine until post One 4 All vs All Might. It wasn't particularly special but it fit. But as the story goes on, It feel it bit aimless. Things that need to happen in timely manner, just happens and it falls flat. There is some fanboy in there tho, He is a big Kishimoto and Oda fan, and I see it thru his work.

JJK I'll leave on wait and see, they had 2 arcs on 140 chapters.
 

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Y'all writing essays in defense of Black Clover :picard::dwillhuh:



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The last ep ended with one hell of a reveal and cliffhanger.

Also Brolic Asta slaps now:wow:
 

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Speaking on carrying the torch, ToG with the same amount of time and budget could have done it easily
HxH fed the anime community and HxH's son could have done the same. If you know you know.:hubie:


I'd sound like a broken record going on about about MHA and DS not being fit for the throne. I like Black Clover and find it sad its being compared to mid like Fairy Tail :mjcry:
JJK is also several leagues above Plunderer but I lost a bet and have to keep my tongue tied on this one :unimpressed:
 

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Demon Slayer... Jujutsu Kaisen... My Hero Academia... Black Clover...

I think the same about all these classic shonen animes that are supposed to be the new carriers of the torch...

It's the writing that hurts them...

But since quality animation is more accessible, they can get away with poor narratives and ill-exploited themes because they look flashy :hubie:



Kishimoto knew how to write compelling shyt (up to a certain point) because he trained for that shyt. These new dudes' pen game is just not it and even they know it (JJK's author).


Granted I gotta give Black Clover another chance.

This is the main reason why webtoon have bad writing. inexperienced new authors.
 

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This is the main reason why webtoon have bad writing. inexperienced new authors.

Action webcomics, a lot of kind of the same. But the exceptions are very good. But With Rom/Coms webcomics and shorts, those cats so much better than a lot of currently established writers. But then with Rom/Coms, a lot of writers are to sell merch and manga, not to make an actual story. This work gets propped and we stuck with the majority of these bad harem rom/coms.
 

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Mushoku Tensei is good. :mjcry:

It almost feels like two SoL shows combined into one.

I think that's why I was so head over heels for that one Re:Zero episode. Rarely do you see even what a person's life was like before they're kilt by Truk-Kun or whatever. The most you get is "This person died. This was their job. They had porn on their computer."

I havent seen any isekai go in depth unless it has multiple reincrnated characters.

I hope the show keeps up this trend.

I can also see why the author got some harsh criticisms early on. Not cause of anything with the story, but because that bullying stuff was some harsh shyt. Society always complains when you hold up a mirror.
 

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Mushoku Tensei is good x2

I like the that you watch the MC work to build his power from ground zero, and learn about the nuances of the world as he does. There are no impending dangers atm so he can spend his time learning and exploring until there is a obstacle to overcome.

Sometimes LN adaptations fall flat, because it's hard to condense a novels worth of dialogue into an anime. So you wind up missing a ton of details and not selling characters, backstories as well as the source did. Here we get consistent narration in the backdrop, and it hasn't felt boring at all because it's being delivered by arguably the best voice in the industry in Sugita Tomokazu. This is a very well put together Isekai.

It does have somewhat of a red flag in the MC being a pervert though. Should be okay so long as this doesn't go full Japan.
 

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Mushoku Tensei is good. :mjcry:

It almost feels like two SoL shows combined into one.

I think that's why I was so head over heels for that one Re:Zero episode. Rarely do you see even what a person's life was like before they're kilt by Truk-Kun or whatever. The most you get is "This person died. This was their job. They had porn on their computer."

I havent seen any isekai go in depth unless it has multiple reincrnated characters.

I hope the show keeps up this trend.

I can also see why the author got some harsh criticisms early on. Not cause of anything with the story, but because that bullying stuff was some harsh shyt. Society always complains when you hold up a mirror.

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Mushoku Tensei is good x2

I like the that you watch the MC work to build his power from ground zero, and learn about the nuances of the world as he does. There are no impending dangers atm so he can spend his time learning and exploring until there is a obstacle to overcome.

Sometimes LN adaptations fall flat, because it's hard to condense a novels worth of dialogue into an anime. So you wind up missing a ton of details and not selling characters, backstories as well as the source did. Here we get consistent narration in the backdrop, and it hasn't felt boring at all because it's being delivered by arguably the best voice in the industry in Sugita Tomokazu. This is a very well put together Isekai.

It does have somewhat of a red flag in the MC being a pervert though. Should be okay so long as this doesn't go full Japan.

I haven’t watched today’s but the novels are so damn in depth too it’s like reading a kid grow up literally step by step
I figured if this got adapted and properly it’s gonna go the jjk route imo and blow up in sales so we’ll see
 
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