"We're Just Ghosts in a Shell, A Bunch of Hollow Knights. Not Ready" Official '24-25 NY Knicks Season Thread

[Wargames]

If you think Thibs of all people is gonna just be cool sitting in a press box next year, watching somebody else take his dream job, I got a Dame Dash business venture I wanna run by you real quick.

I'm trying to bring you along slowly so you don't pop a blood vessel when Thibs is still coaching in October lol. But if you want to die alone on this ECF hill, you got it

It’s funny how you think I am some outlier on this. Perkins is one of the biggest Thibs/knicks supporter in the media and even he is out here calling Thibs out for his part in this. This video was from before the Cavs lost where the Knicks were actually trying to win and the Cavs came back on them.

Coaches have been fired for less than what we seen this regular season. I am not saying I have ECF expectations, I am saying Thibs probably needs to over perform and get to the ECF to keep his job. Another 1 and done post season should be the final nail in the coffin for his run as HC here.

 

[Black Excellence]

Its public knowledge the Knicks were trying to trade Randle since 2023 so idk about all that. And trading Randle for KAT didnt require any real thought, any GM who's decent at their job makes that move 10 out of 10 times.

And why do coaches get fired? For underperforming. If the Knicks lose to Boston in round 2, that is not that.

If for example they played Indy again this year and lost in rd 2. I would be the first one screaming get this hunchback nikka off my team.

But losing to a team in round 3 and it being a success vs. Losing to the SAME team a round earlier and now yall expect the coach to get canned? yall buggin lol

You’re simplifying a problem and using your personal perspective as the forgone conclusion.

It wasn’t public knowledge we were trying to trade Randle since 2023, it was rumored we were trying to trade him. There’s a distinctive difference.

And how is it a trade that doesn’t require thought?

Really think about what you’re saying.

A team that was a win away from the ECF, without Randle who averaged 20+ & 10+, is a done deal?

I’m not arguing in support of Randle btw, I understand why it happened I’m just trying to have you look at it from a nuanced angle because this next point nullifies what you’re saying:

Last year’s team went 50-32

This year’s team: 50-31

How is a team that changed in talent but kept the same coach, have the same record as last year and not underperforming?

 

[Derek Lee]

Anything else less than a competitive six or seven games series vs the Celtics should be an acceptable result. If it's the same status quo in the playoffs, Thibs can kick rocks

 

[Black Excellence]

Anything else less than a competitive six or seven games series vs the Celtics should be an acceptable result. If it's the same status quo in the playoffs, Thibs can kick rocks

I’m telling y’all right now, if we move past the pistons, and lose against the Celtics, that moral victory shyt isn’t gonna cut it from the front office.

You do not trade 5 picks for Mikal, trade away Randle & Donte to just be okay with a competitive series and have the same regular season record as last year.

 

[Spidey Man]

I was in favor of keeping thibs, back in March, but 0-8 against Boston and Cleveland settled that debate. Thibs has reached his ceiling as a coach and he can't or won't change.

Unless we make it to the ECF or better, it's time to retire Thibs to the Front Office.

Bridges better show out in the playoffs, because he can fukk off too, and Hart needs to hit the bench. His style is better suited for 6th man.

If I had my way, Brunson/Bridges in the backcourt with Mitch/KAT/OG in the front court for the playoffs. Mitch can handle Tatum, Mitchell and anybody else that makes it past the first defender

 

[mvp_status]

It’s funny how you think I am some outlier on this. Perkins is one of the biggest Thibs/knicks supporter in the media and even he is out here calling Thibs out for his part in this. This video was from before the Cavs lost where the Knicks were actually trying to win and the Cavs came back on them.

Coaches have been fired for less than what we seen this regular season. I am not saying I have ECF expectations, I am saying Thibs probably needs to over perform and get to the ECF to keep his job. Another 1 and done post season should be the final nail in the coffin for his run as HC here.

Im not a Thibs guy so all this evidence you're trying to point to to say "see I told you he's fukking up" isn't hitting.

Jenkins and Malone did not have a 20+ year friendship with the guys that fired them. And in Malone's case, it was very toxic static with the front office that got him fired apparently.

Only way I think Thibs goes is if they lose to Detroit or are just completely non-competitive against Boston (which is a sad but legit possibility I neglected to mention earlier). Like 2014 Finals type of ass whoopin.

 

[Wargames]

Im not a Thibs guy so all this evidence you're trying to point to to say "see I told you he's fukking up" isn't hitting.

Jenkins and Malone did not have a 20+ year friendship with the guys that fired them. And in Malone's case, it was very toxic static with the front office that got him fired apparently.

Only way I think Thibs goes is if they lose to Detroit or are just completely non-competitive against Boston (which is a sad but legit possibility I neglected to mention earlier). Like 2014 Finals type of ass whoopin.

That 20+ year friendship is why I think he gets bumped up to the FO like Brad Steven’s.

Most FO would just fire him. I am not even being anti-Thibs here, we’ve seen coaches in these exact same circumstances fired multiple times over the years. Usually to the team’s betterment.

Mentioning Malone, he is another good friend with all these people in our FO for decades and a CAA client. Him being fired is another reason I think Thibs is on the hot seat. His natural replacement is on the market. I was speculating about Hurley and Bryant, but then you get a coach on the market that has made it to the WCF against tougher competition multiple times, and won a championship 2 years ago.

You don’t think the FO see’s that out there and just sits back with Thibs after another 1 and done? Thibs has to show he can win with this roster. He didn’t show that during the regular season, so he needs to show that in the playoffs.

 

[mvp_status]

You’re simplifying a problem and using your personal perspective as the forgone conclusion.

It wasn’t public knowledge we were trying to trade Randle since 2023, it was rumored we were trying to trade him. There’s a distinctive difference.

And how is it a trade that doesn’t require thought?

Really think about what you’re saying.

A team that was a win away from the ECF, without Randle who averaged 20+ & 10+, is a done deal?

I’m not arguing in support of Randle btw, I understand why it happened I’m just trying to have you look at it from a nuanced angle because this next point nullifies what you’re saying:

Last year’s team went 50-32

This year’s team: 50-31

How is a team that changed in talent but kept the same coach, have the same record as last year and not underperforming?

Fair enough, let's call it rumors and keep it pushing.

It doesn't require thought because KAT is the better player. Randle was always either hurt or buns in the postseason. And KAT can play the 4 or 5 pretty seamlessly, while the Knicks desperately needed a center going into this season.

As far as comparing years, ask me that question after the postseason.

 

[mvp_status]

That 20+ year friendship is why I think he gets bumped up to the FO like Brad Steven’s.

Most FO would just fire him. I am not even being anti-Thibs here, we’ve seen coaches in these exact same circumstances fired multiple times over the years. Usually to the team’s betterment.

Mentioning Malone, he is another good friend with all these people in our FO for decades and a CAA client. Him being fired is another reason I think Thibs is on the hot seat. His natural replacement is on the market. I was speculating about Hurley and Bryant, but then you get a coach on the market that has made it to the WCF against tougher competition multiple times, and won a championship 2 years ago.

You don’t think the FO see’s that out there and just sits back with Thibs after another 1 and done? Thibs has to show he can win with this roster. He didn’t show that during the regular season, so he needs to show that in the playoffs.

I think losing to Boston in 5 hits the same regardless of if it's in the ECF or semis.

They should beat anybody else below them in standings so realistically an added filler series before the actual measuring stick in the C's doesn't mean much. Or at least that's what my point is.

It doesn't really matter who else you beat. Boston is who's in the way at the end of the day.

 

[Wargames]

I think losing to Boston in 5 hits the same regardless of if it's in the ECF or semis.

They should beat anybody else below them in standings so realistically an added filler series before the actual measuring stick in the C's doesn't mean much. Or at least that's what my point is.

It doesn't really matter who else you beat. Boston is who's in the way at the end of the day.

It’s the fact Thibs has not shown he can win with this team at all during the season that has you looking at them like they are a treadmill.

So, Jaylen Brown is reportedly going to get shots in his knee for pain. The Knicks need to finish against Detroit as fast as possible to not give the Brown any chance to recover between games.

That’s a realistic goal for the Knicks. Get Detroit out the paint by 5 games to try and put pressure on the Celtic by not giving Jaylen a chance to recover between series.

Let’s see if Thibs can get this team to do it. Ya’ll think I am anti Knicks playoffs. I want to see these dudes win. Nothing is determined until we play these games. Detroit is acting spicy but we should be able to beat them quickly. Thibs needs to coach these playoffs like his job is on the line.

 

[mvp_status]

It’s the fact Thibs has not shown he can win with this team at all during the season that has you looking at them like they are a treadmill.

So, Jaylen Brown is reportedly going to get shots in his knee for pain. The Knicks need to finish against Detroit as fast as possible to not give the Brown any chance to recover between games.

That’s a realistic goal for the Knicks. Get Detroit out the paint by 5 games to try and put pressure on the Celtic by not giving Jaylen a chance to recover between series.

Let’s see if Thibs can get this team to do it. Ya’ll think I am anti Knicks playoffs. I want to see these dudes win. Nothing is determined until we play these games. Detroit is acting spicy but we should be able to beat them quickly. Thibs needs to coach these playoffs like his job is on the line.

Dont think we're treadmill status yet. Should've been in the ECF last year but injuries (another point/counterpoint for Thibs). And this year the roster has several glaring holes, which I'm sure the FO will do their best to address this year, as they always have.

And word, we gon soon see.

 

[Wargames]

Dont think we're treadmill status yet. Should've been in the ECF last year but injuries (another point/counterpoint for Thibs). And this year the roster has several glaring holes, which I'm sure the FO will do their best to address this year, as they always have.

And word, we gon soon see.

You might not see them that way, but that is how they are getting treated by basically everybody and that is because of their inability to beat the good teams.

However, we’re going to see. We should be able to kick Detroit’s ass but that regular season record got them feeling themselves.

 

[TOAD99]

0-16 vs top teams should say enough

 

[melraH]

Casper Bridges said what needed to be said to ensure Thibs is a goner by the end of the season along with himself by the next trade deadline

 

[RickyGQ]

I like the fact that we're underdogs, I've seen people saying that the Pistons got the best player in the series (Cade). Folks were talking like this last year vs Philly.

I’m not even sure Cade is better than OG yet.