B90X
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"Posting" since 2007 doesn't make anybody any more of a niner fan than somebody who grew up with the team and watched them go from greatness to shyt, too.
We all felt the same pain, we're just all in the same spot now.
We Will Catch Punts!!! The offical 2012 San Francisco 49ers off-season thread
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"Posting" since 2007 doesn't make anybody any more of a niner fan than somebody who grew up with the team and watched them go from greatness to shyt, too.
We all felt the same pain, we're just all in the same spot now.
Perhaps, just trying to see who you were because the name wasn't familiar. On the Green Graveyard we had many posters who been hurting since the Erickson/Nolan days and posting about it,.
Thought maybe you were a convert who switched the names uo
He is also a drug dealer, so in reality, not the smartest man.
Either way, it's not about being a Smith guy or being against him, I just want this team to win, and he is our best option and YES he was a better fit than Peyton Manning. That doesn't mean he's a better player, just a better fit
yseJ
Empire strikes back
no what ? I didnt make a statement that could be argued.
I said that TO ME Lloyd was clearly far the biggest playmaker. unless you have a backdoor to my mind...I dont see whats to argue here
their numbers drop, but they still perform. larry fitz played with some garbage ass qbs and still can shiit on the whole defense. crabtree can't. that's the difference.
but you just switch the variables, not finding the real root of the problem. eli is clearly superior to alex, we know that. such a switch-a-roo doesnt tell us whether or not nicks, cruz or crabs are #1 WRs
with that said, Ive seen nicks and cruz make many more plays on balls that were very poorly thrown by eli
yseJ
Empire strikes back
in all football games it's about exploiting the matchups.
over the last 3 years VDs production was >>>> that of crabtree, I dont see how one can argue otherwise. also, alex and VD are far more on the same page. now, that could be attributed all to alex, but it doesnt explain why he has zero problems hooking up with VD.
again, there is no 'matchups' with elite/#1 WRs. andre johnson, fitz, etc...the defenses KNOW the ball is coming their way...and yet they cant stop it.
Im not saying crabs cant make plays at all...thats silly. but for a supposed playmaker he plays more like a possession receiver. he doesnt have elite speed, elite hands, elite vertical, elite separation ability or elite after the catch ability to be a #1, imo.
Nicks and Cruz have had better games than Crabtree has had a career.
And like you said, it isn't just Eli, because i`ve seen Cruz get the separation play in and play out than I can NEVEr recall Crabtree having. He`ll also snatch balls over two defenders and have some amazing RACs
Anyone whose actually watched CrabTHREE knows there just isn't much there to be excited about. He's a good player. Definitely a B- player., in no way is he a #! receiver and the organization is basically telling you that with its off-season moves. I doubt they`ll even make a real serious offer to CrabTHREE after this season anyway.
B-Lloyd was also a much bigger "playmaker" than CrabTHREE.
Your dead on, he is a possession player. He really is like Hines Ward almost, without the route running ability. He's a very good blocker and he has good hands.
Davis is the best argument to all the fools who blame Alex for CrabTHREE's failure. Vernon can beast with Alex and make big plays, so why can't CrabTHREE? Because Vernon gets open and CrabTHREE doesn't, that's bottom line.
Poor route running, no separation, no speed, no jump ball ability what exactly does CrabTHREE do that makes him a playmaker? He excels at blocking, hands and he is just slightly above average with RAC.
Manningham, Moss and Jenkins will all prove to be better than him
yseJ
Empire strikes back
I doubt that personally. all manningham has over crabs is speed, and jenkins is a poorer version of crabs imo. moss is too old. so I dont know, I have faith that all our WRs will step it up but Im just not sure. also with alex still around, not a lot of faith in deep passes.
I don't even like Manningham like that but to me he`ll still be better than CrabTHREE.
Jenkins I got a good feeling about, he has got the speed and he seems dedicated to learning from the vets Moss and working with Rice.
I can't help but think they all can be better than his sorry ass
Bruh, don't worry about him. He's a clown.
Crabs has been playing with garbage QB's his entire career. WTF are you talking about?
Thing with Eli is he will throw up those 50/50 balls to COVERED receivers. Crabs doesn't have that luxury. We don't even know if Crabs has that "go up and get it" ability cuz his QB refuses to throw him balls unless he is WIDE OPEN.
Again, you're talking about performance, I just showed you where he ranked in the last 11 games with a limited QB and offense.
With some, it really doesn't matter what Crabs does...it will never be good enough.
There's room for improvement, but yall go overboard. "poor route running" "no separation" "doesn't fight for balls". All unsubstantiated bullshyt from people who don't like him.
P.o.D for 6/1 - My Birthday Edition, wish my GF would have got me a cake like this
Coming from the douche bag who said we were arguably the worst organization in all of sports because we didn't re-sign Aubrayo Franklin last August.
You're the absolute WORST 49ers fan on here, fukking dumb ass Canadian
B90X
All Star
Is it really fair to compare the last 3 years of VD against the last 3 years of Crabs, when this is Crabs first 3 years in the league. For a fair comparison, you'd have to compare VD's first 3 years vs Crabs first 3 years.
Look, I'm not arguing that Crabs is an elite #1 receiver; realistically, I don't think ANYBODY is arguing that. The point I'm making is that he's gotten better each year he's been here, yet people still say he's a subpar receiver...I just don't see it. It's as if because he doesn't run go routes right past people all day, in your mind he'll never amount to a #1 receiver.
