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Instead of being fake outraged about something that isn't and never was racist, judging it prematurely and hoping for a NOD gimmick (which would've been completely stupid),, how about giving it a chance. I swear wrestling fans do nothing but hate on something without letting it play out for a while. 3 guys who are black and having fun are stereotypical, but you guys would've wanted 3 of them being anger and recycling a `17 year old gimmick.

For once a youtube comment that isn't asinine :wow:


The first sentence alone is bullshyt. "Fake outrage"? "Isn't racist"?
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This gimmick is some stereotypical bullshyt and lazy writing for 3 wrestlers who are extremely talented and pretty well rounded.

This is a major step back for all of them and only the naive would believe that any of them will benefit from this corny gimmick.

And let's not pretend like wrestling isn't Captain Planet with the recycling.
 

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That's not what the comment was getting at. The bulk of the comment was addressed towards people yelling racist and cynical fans who shyt on everything. The NOD remark is in reply to people who are calling for an NOD-type stable yet calling this stereotypical even though an angry militant group is stereotyping in that of itself. I agree that the gimmick is wack on many levels but people saying they'll job, they won't go anywhere, this that and the 3rd are being unreasonable. Let me remind that the WWE is not exactly black or minority dominated. If you had an all-Hispanic or all-Asian group, you think you can just have them have a straight serious gimmick without people stirring shyt? Having an all-black group is borderline retarded itself from the get-go. A real step in the right direction would be having a black Shield member, or a black Evolution member, or a black Wyatt member.

There have been very few "militant" black wrestling stables. Especially over the last 10 years. And at least with the militant stables, the wrestlers could get better promo material and actually get a chance to show how good they are on the mic. Plus they'll actually be taken seriously. This New Blacks Day gimmick is not going to give them those opportunities.
 

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I don't watch TNA so I don't know what they're doing with the group but let me ask you this

1. Do they come out to a hip-hop/jive/soul theme?
2. Do they use ebonics/urban slang in their promos

If the answer is yes, then they are playing off that they're black and are further perpetuating stereotypes to some degree. And isn't the stable name MLK? :beli:



That Excellence :jamesbrown:
 

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It's been one match and they've done no in-ring promos. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt at this point. For all we know, they could end up turning this into something decent.
 

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:childplease: who even gives a fukk, they were still presented better than any other non-black stable in WWE. miss me with that bullshyt, you are talking as if they are cryme time out there literally stealing shyt from white people on camera

:heh: You said them being black is not even a consideration. Which is wrong as I just proved. I said nothing about them going all out Cryme Tyme stealing and robbing and sagging, or anything about them being presented badly for that matter. You're right in that TNA is doing a great job handling them, and judging from clips, references subtle or un-subtle to them being black is minimized. If you scrapped that shyt you said about them being black not a consideration then you would be good.

There have been very few "militant" black wrestling stables. Especially over the last 10 years. And at least with the militant stables, the wrestlers could get better promo material and actually get a chance to show how good they are on the mic. Plus they'll actually be taken seriously. This New Blacks Day gimmick is not going to give them those opportunities.

:yeshrug: Let's be factual here, are there any tag teams that get mic time? I'm not all out optimistic about their chances as a successful stable but at least let the shyt play out before dismissing it. They had a decent debut with an entertaining match, what is there to incessantly complain about at the moment?

The first sentence alone is bullshyt. "Fake outrage"? "Isn't racist"?
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This gimmick is some stereotypical bullshyt and lazy writing for 3 wrestlers who are extremely talented and pretty well rounded.

This is a major step back for all of them and only the naive would believe that any of them will benefit from this corny gimmick.

And let's not act like wrestling isn't Captain Planet with the recycling.

This isn't exactly portraying all-out negative stereotypes like Cryme Tyme, so to call it all-out racist would be extreme. It is stereotypical, I agree, but people are being fake outraged to an extent, specifically the cacs in the comments who just wanna jump on the bash wave. And especially since this is a professional wrestling group first of all, one that hasn't even had a week on TV yet, and one that is not exactly front and center on WWE programming. But I fail to see how this is a major step back when this is the first fresh thing Kofi has done in years, and something that Big E and Xavier can play with to potentially get over. Anything new and not totally :mjpls: for these 3 is a step forward in my opinion.
 

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:heh: You said them being black is not even a consideration. Which is wrong as I just proved. I said nothing about them going all out Cryme Tyme stealing and robbing and sagging, or anything about them being presented badly for that matter. You're right in that TNA is doing a great job handling them, and judging from clips, references subtle or un-subtle to them being black is minimized. If you scrapped that shyt you said about them being black not a consideration then you would be good.



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Scrapped it cause I thought you would've brought up the Shield and the Shield are being pushed heavy
 

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In all fairness though, is there really any way you can group together 3 black wrestlers without them somehow playing off that they're all black?

This right here is the problem. YES, they can pair 3 black wrestlers together without playing off of the fact that they're black. Every black dude here has two other friends, and if he sat down and fantasy booked his boys to be wrestlers, his first idea isn't going to be "We all black :gladbron:"

Nah, one friend is probably an a$$hole that gets a lot of p*ssy. The other one is fat and funny as fukk. And the third is quiet but will whoop your ass. Their brain will go there first when thinking on what dynamics they can play off with each other.

It's lazy, especially in 2014, to have every ethnic wrestler's gimmick to just be their ethnicity. Let them make all the references and tongue in cheek jokes they want, that's fair, but defaulting to that as a formality doesn't give black wrestlers credit for having personalities, and the writers/bookers aren't giving themselves the credit of knowing better.
 
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