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We smoking on that XBOX pack tonight. It's Ovah. RIP XBOX.
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Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
remember how the generation started
Dorian Breh
Veteran
yeah, these dudes are going through itI’m loving the pivot I’m seeing around, that we need Xbox as competition and check and balance on PlayStation
I remember us speaking up thru Bethesda and ABK. What happened?
There will still be comp when it comes to games. if these titles don't sell on Sony it's not because they're Xbox games, it's because we have a higher standard
IIVI
Superstar
Exactly. It's just not what they do.
Most humans get products/apps because they want productivity or want entertainment. Nintendo and Sony at their core have been doing the latter at their center before they got into video games while Microsoft has their product line centered around the former.
Plus when you look at someone like Satya, dude is nearly 60 years old and says he grew up playing video games.
I'm really not so sure of that. The timelines are iffy. Saying his favorite game is Candy Crush Saga kind of says a lot while saying he "loves video games". I remember someone shared a tweet a few weeks ago talking about how Microsoft is basically that kid who used to make fun of people playing video games, now being the boss of people who make video games. I'm thinking dude is closer to being that than someone who is head over heels about video games and video game culture.
Combined with what I said, I'm kind of glad Sony CEO's don't get up there and blow smoke up people's asses about how much of a "gamer" they all are. It's easy to tell if someone really means that or not.
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Exactly... So, if you make the box wrong for developers or consumer preferences you are done before you can release a game.
I could release a console with the same power as a PS2 with amazing titles across multiple genres, but it wouldn't move units even at $30. People would want the game to be powered by at least the switch and preferably the PS5 because they want better graphics, better fidelity, better everything else.
If it was just about the games....why even release consoles beyond the PS4 Pro and Xbox one X? Damn near everything on PS5 could be scaled down to PS4 Pro with lower resolution, lesser polygons and effects etc....and it would not change the core fundamentals of the game.
Because people want better as tech advances. That's like saying why go above the N64 or 360?
And yes, it's still about the games at the end of the day. Games made the PS3 come back and overtake the 360. Games is what made the PS2 arguably the GOAT system. Games make systems at the end of the day still. Power and tech advances are still very important, but it's useless without the games.
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
Because people want better as tech advances. That's like saying why go above the N64 or 360?
And yes, it's still about the games at the end of the day. Games made the PS3 come back and overtake the 360. Games is what made the PS2 arguably the GOAT system. Games make systems at the end of the day still. Power and tech advances are still very important, but it's useless without the games.
Why did we need to go above 480P and CRTs? I don’t get it
It's a lot of factors beyond games. People not always willing to try new IPs on a different console. And Developers not always willing to go out of comfortable zone to develop for a console without an established base even without factoring ease of development.
Dreamcast brought us the 2K series Basketball & Football. I never went back to NBA Live. But people stuck to the PlayStation...and 2K didn't blow up until it went Xbox & PS2.
Dreamcast with their SDK and windows CE (though performance dips with those games) was not a chore for developers, Lot of great games came out. Now a boot disc being available peer 2 peer sharing (noticably hotline) didn't help along with GD-Roms over DVD.....but good games.... and playable online games 56k and broadband didn't stop Dreamcast from failing.
Dreamcast failed because of Sega leadership in Japan and America never being on the same page for years at that point and the rampant pirating here in the states of Dreamcast.
Because people want better as tech advances. That's like saying why go above the N64 or 360?
And yes, it's still about the games at the end of the day. Games made the PS3 come back and overtake the 360. Games is what made the PS2 arguably the GOAT system. Games make systems at the end of the day still. Power and tech advances are still very important, but it's useless without the games.
I had Xbox 01/02. I tried PS2 and it was a DVD player for me... eventually sold down the line. I Enjoyed red faction. But Tekken tag and ridge racer 5 and GT3 left me with a sour taste.
I didn't play god of war series until PS3 in the 2010s and appreciated it along with the last of us, uncharted series, resistance etc.
I got a PS2 slim a couple years back and I'm exploring some titles that came out after the first couple years.
The Dreamcast was easy to develop for, but at that point sega was operating on a ton of bad will due to them abandoning 3 failed consoles in a row. The games were extremely easy to bootleg, leading to the software not selling much. And the Dreamcast was severely underpowered compared to the ps2/GameCube.
9/9/99 usa....it came out first for the generation and looked better than PS1 and N64 polygons.
PS2 came out jaggies and that weird shimmering look when I had it real time....PS2 was weaker than GameCube and Xbox if we talking power. PS2 was still a cheap DVD player that happened to play games, lol.
