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Owners around the league know they're fukked because the economy is on the verge of a recession, coupled with Covid and inflation...things are going to get rough.
The players ain't trying to hear it.

I support the players.

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Yup, I don't feel sorry for these billion dollar owners one bit. Fuk em
 

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The thing about Andrew Heaney is that he has good stuff.
Teams will continue to take a chance on him, hoping they can fix him because he's really just held back by his habit of allowing home runs.

He needs to lower his BB rate a bit. But he's left handed and strikes guys out.
He's such a tempting project because the upside is enormous if he could just get those things under control.

It's possible that "this is just who Heaney is" and he will be solidified as another Robbie Ray. But hell, even Robbie Ray showed what he was capable of this past season by lowering his home runs a bit.
Ray had succcess before this past season though. Heaney's only had an ERA under 4.00 once and that was a season in which he had just 18 starts. He's never been good while Ray has been up and down.
 
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Not sure this is accurate.

From 2012 through 2021, here are the records for the Oakland Athletics and the Tampa Bay Rays:

Games played:
Oakland Athletics - 1,518
Tampa Bay Rays - 1,519

Record:
Oakland Athletics: 806-712
Tampa Bay Rays: 813-706

Winning percentage:
Oakland Athletics: .531
Tampa Bay Rays: .535

In those 10 seasons, Tampa has been in the playoffs 4 times while Oakland has been in the playoffs 6 times.



Nah... breh. The Rays are competing in the same division as the Red Sox and NYY. The A's got ... Angels/M's/Rangers.. nah ... :mjlol: Only the Astros been good and that wasn't the whole decade.
 
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What do you mean how? Obviously it's tougher to win out East when you have to deal with BOS/NYY and their monster payrolls every single season. Those two teams never truly fall off completely.. They may have a down year but then they bounce bacc because they just continue to throw money at the problems they have..

Then you got Toronto another capable team.. Only the O's are bad every year. What the Rays have done is way more impressive.
 

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What do you mean how? Obviously it's tougher to win out East when you have to deal with BOS/NYY and their monster payrolls every single season. Those two teams never truly fall off completely.. They may have a down year but then they bounce bacc because they just continue to throw money at the problems they have..

Then you got Toronto another capable team.. Only the O's are bad every year. What the Rays have done is way more impressive.
You think over a 1500 game sample size Oakland is only beating the Mariners and Tampa is dominating the Yankees?

I don’t think so.
 

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Boras: Braves' WS title a result of tanking in MLB

CARLSBAD, Calif. -- Baseball's most influential agent said the sport was the victim of a "competitive cancer" caused by teams unloading veterans to accumulate draft picks, and that the Atlanta Braves' World Series title was a direct result of tanking.

In an outdoor news conference in front of a steakhouse at the general managers meetings, Scott Boras backed the demands of the players' association for changes in the collective bargaining agreement that expires Dec. 1. The sport is braced for a lockout that would be baseball's ninth work stoppage but its first since 1995.

"This is the Easter Bunny delivering rotten eggs," Boras said Wednesday. "Every team says, 'I need to do this because it's my only option, knowing I can't reach a divisional crest, I can't get in the playoffs.'"

Atlanta made a series of July acquisitions and went on to its first World Series title since 1995.

"We have seen the championship in 60 days," he said. "The rules allow them to be a less-than-.500 team at Aug. 1 and add four players, five players from teams that no longer wanted to compete and for very little cost change the entirety of their team and season.

"And we saw this unfold to the detriment of teams that create at vast expense, planning and intellect and won over 100 games. In doing all this, we have now created an understanding that a fan would not know who the true team is until, frankly, the trading deadline."

Boras blames the turn toward tanking on restraints imposed on amateur spending in 2012. The caps came as the Chicago Cubs and Houston Astros undertook painful rebuilds that resulted in World Series titles, informing decisions by other clubs to tear down. Boras represents many top draft picks and has lost revenue because of the system of draft signing pools.

"It created an incentive for the race to the bottom, because now we have half the major league teams at some time during the season being noncompetitive, trading off their players, making the game and the season very different than what it was intended to be, and that was having an incentive to win every game that you play," he said.

Boras represents five of the eight men on the union's executive subcommittee: Zack Britton, Gerrit Cole, James Paxton, Max Scherzer and Marcus Semien, who switched his agency to Boras last month. Jason Castro, Francisco Lindor and Andrew Miller are the other members.

As usual, Boras arrived armed with colorful descriptions and comparisons for his players and some of the teams in play to sign them.

• On free-agent slugger Nick Castellanos: "I kind of advised all of you like two years ago, St. Nick was going to bring a lot of presents, and frankly, we're just going to sit back and see what teams have been naughty and nice."

• He compared Kris Bryant to Sean Connery, saying "he has Bond-like abilities to create a great middle of the lineup. He's always red-hot in the hunt for October. He's an extraordinary gentleman and is in a league of his own."

• Boras expressed satisfaction in pitcher Carlos Rodon not receiving a qualifying offer from the Chicago White Sox, as he says it was created to "weigh" down free agents.

"We're pursuing a multiyear contract. We weren't going to sign a one-year contract."

Former Mets outfielder Michael Conforto had become the "King of Queens," Boras said, but "in free agency now, he's kind of like the ace of many GMs' hearts." Mets president Sandy Alderson responded: "Those comments I would characterize as a blowhard in a house of cards."

• For infielder Semien: "He kind of brings a charge in the batter's box and kind of, you know, he insulates the middle infield. So he's truly a modern-day Semien conductor, and we all know there's a shortage of chips worldwide."

• Shortstop Corey Seager is "like a rock," Boras said. "Of course, his parents knew this. That's why they named him Corey."

• On the Mets, whose search for a general manager has dragged on: "Well, there are 29 teams that have their big carts out there, and they're filling them up now. Now, probably when you look at the old adage, 'What's upsetting the big apple cart?' And it might be that it's rather unattended at the moment. I'm sure that will be there, and we know that in our shopping malls, we're very welcoming of the big apple cart." Said Alderson: "So he's changed the supermarket metaphor to something vehicular, I guess, and I'm not really prepared to respond. I had a great answer for the supermarket question, but I'll keep it to myself."

Asked if New York was a stable organization, Alderson said: "I think we're working toward a stable environment."

• On the possibility of a free-agent spree in February or March at the end of a potential signing freeze that might accompany a lockout: "Talent is the steak, and I don't really care what time dinner is."
 

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Boras is the wrong spokesperson for tanking since,


a) Atlanta had every right to be one of those tanking teams after Acuna got hurt but they didn't. They chose to compete and won a close NL East and got hot at the right time.

b) Boras made a living off noncompetitive teams (or at least teams he knew who were broke) giving players away to the Yankees or Red Sox or whoever.
 
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