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It was Kershaw's call to be pulled. He understands the bigger picture for his team. Non-fans and casuals care more about an individual accomplishment than Kershaw. Can anyone without looking name the last five pitchers that threw a perfect game.
You come off as the casual as the point is flying over your head. The fact that a guy is sitting at 80 pitches and we are talking about saving him for the bigger picture is the whole issue. He wasn’t at 100-120 pitches through 7 and taxing his arm. 80 pitches is really efficient. He was dealing. The fact that you think allowing him to finish the game is going to damage him is the reason true fans of the game are becoming casuals. dikk.
 

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It was Kershaw's call to be pulled. He understands the bigger picture for his team. Non-fans and casuals care more about an individual accomplishment than Kershaw. Can anyone without looking name the last five pitchers that threw a perfect game.


That sounds like a guy who isn't gonna throw his manager under the bus.
 

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I don’t believe for a second Kershaw opted to leave the game. That’s nice of him to back up his manager and presumably front office to not make a bigger story of this. There is a no way a dude of his quality/prestige would willingly take himself out. Also he looked frustrated about it in the dugout when he got the word. The Dodgers all seem happy with the decision but of course it’s going to make fans frustrated
 

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What makes this look even worse coming from the Dodgers is they still haven't won anything with all their analytics bullshyt. That COVID World Series has a massive asterisk.

They always have some horrendous meltdowns in the playoffs because of their devotion to numbers instead of having any feel for the actual game at hand. We talk about it every single year. :heh:
 

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You come off as the casual as the point is flying over your head. The fact that a guy is sitting at 80 pitches and we are talking about saving him for the bigger picture is the whole issue. He wasn’t at 100-120 pitches through 7 and taxing his arm. 80 pitches is really efficient. He was dealing. The fact that you think allowing him to finish the game is going to damage him is the reason true fans of the game are becoming casuals. dikk.

First start of the season
Was shut down last year for an elbow injury
Almost had to have Tommy John in the offseason
Weather was near freezing

The man himself said he was on a pitch count and wanted to be pulled.

He obviously doesn't care about throwing the perfect game, his goal is to win another championship and get through a long season. You seem to be more bothered by this than him
 

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What makes this look even worse coming from the Dodgers is they still haven't won anything with all their analytics bullshyt. That COVID World Series has a massive asterisk.

They always have some horrendous meltdowns in the playoffs because of their devotion to numbers instead of having any feel for the actual game at hand. We talk about it every single year. :heh:

So then you understand why not over-exerting himself in his first START of the season is important to Kershaw and the teams ultimate goal
 

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The "analytics" boogeyman has done far worse things to the game than convince someone to pull a pitcher after 7 perfect innings. I get it...but given Kershaw's history and the team's sole season goal, letting him go to 105 pitches in April isn't a smart decision.

I know on the surface it seems like a shyt decision, but just to play devil's advocate, I remember what happened when Terry Collins let Johan Santana stay in and finish a no hitter.
 

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I'm puzzled as to why you're continuing to be obtuse about this. There is no correlation between pitch counts and injury. It's especially odd considering Kershaw was at 80 pitches through a stress free seven innings; not 140.


More pitches = More opportunities to get injured

More fatigue = Higher likelihood for injury


Whether you like it or not, those are both quite firmly accepted. Perhaps you should try to break into the league as the never-pitch-counts guru and dominate your less-informed rivals.
 

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Vladdy Jr. Is really incredible. Hard not to want the Blue Jays to do well. Mostly because it means the Red Sox and Yankees arent dominating but Vlad, Bichette, Hernandez with guys like Manoah on the mound. That's just a fun team to root for.
 

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I know on the surface it seems like a shyt decision, but just to play devil's advocate, I remember what happened when Terry Collins let Johan Santana stay in and finish a no hitter.

That was like 135 pitches though. And a no-hitter, not even a perfect game.
 
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