We are the Joneses - The Official Texas Longhorns Athletics Thread
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6-7, 5-6, and 5-7. What is the justification on bringing this back for the fourth year?
Well nothing really matters anymore. I expect the announcement by tomorrow.
Improvement is not always on the surface. Especially when you are majority Sophs and Freshmen. During the game(Spencer Tillman was kinda lowkey lobbying for Charlie) showed all kinds of stats, where I was like damn, the team has improved. Especially once Strong took over the defense. That will quietly go unnoticed because of the bad playcalling. But think about it, no one is so badass they just run for 2000 yards by themselves. Especially after no one had even 1000 yards at UT since Jamal Charles. Even Foreman. They also showed a few coaches that were about the same or worse than Strong record-wise for 3 years, then had 9 or 10 years the 4th year and beyond. That's why I say if UT bigs who are hiring owe it to themselves to get a real consulting firm to measure this quantitatively(yes, there are firms that do this) instead of just looking at record. I was at UT at the end of Mackovich's run and I thought he was ready to blow up as well. He had accumulated some damn good, long NFL career talent. A lot of it was young and '97 had a lot of major injuries at key positions, so they went 4-7. I think boosters and fans were more embarrassed than anything, so they canned him. Mack came in and won 9 games and everyone saw him as some savior. No, that team was full of talent and ready to win. The funny thing is, Ricky Williams had a huge year his junior year too despite the record. Low and behold, the Oline was improving quietly. Guys who hadn't played were having to play that 4-7 year as freshmen and sophs. They were young. Instead, the narrative was Mackovich was abrasive with boosters and couldn't coach. That's bs. the '95 and '96 teams were getting better and getting to nice New Years day major bowl games(Fiesta and Sugar Bowl). The mentality at UT, though, is that wins is the only stat that means anything towards the future and that despite the 15 years of previous mediocrity at that point, all the progress on the down low mean nothing in the face of their embarrassment. So they got rid of Mackovich and went with Brown(second choice after Gary Barnett) Brown won off the backs of Mackovich's recruits for a couple of years and everyone was patting themselves on the back for something that was inevitable. This feels the same way. I just hope they thoroughly look at everyone out there, whether we think he's available or not if we are who we think we are.
I have no problem naming names who showed significant improvement, but I'm not going to sit here and cry for Strong. I didn't play for him so I don't have that bond with him(BTW, Could people please shut up about players being emotional about an adult figure that they love and feel like has helped them improve in life and on the field. Football is emotional as fukk and individuals are different. I'm sure there are players that are meh on this and some that will be glad they are gone. But others like Foreman probably feel like they owe him everything. Foreman was a low 3-star recruit overshadowed by his brother. Most thought he might contribute as a blocking back or on special teams. He probably feels like Strong gave him a shot and through their program he made the body gains that will help him become a millionaire. Might that happen with another coach? For some yes, but for some Strong might have been the right guy at the right time. Let those brothers be emotional. This is their life). UT made him wealthy and he'll either land a decent head coaching gig or maybe even an SEC coordinator job. But the narrative from UT fans that guys like Bonney, Hager, Nelson, Kris Boyd, Locke, Armanti Foreman, Collin Johnson, Duvernay's blocking(dude could already fly and catch, lol), hell Dorian Leonard out of nowhere. Hell, McMillan and Boyette from nothing to solid contributors. Shark was starting to come on before that stupid targeting penalty(Don't get me started on that Kansas game. That felt like the fix was in once it was close and we've played worse Kansas teams close with much better Texas teams, so that's not a crime). Not going to sensationalize either way. Just ranting. I hope this is a clean transition, but I'll have no problem clowning us if we suck for the next 4 years.
gtj1982
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fukk brehs starting over again. At least the new coach will have more to work with. Really wanted Charlie to succeed. Never had the support of everyone but he still needed to show more than he has. Just don't know what went wrong. The retrospective stories will be interesting.
Thanks for all your hard work Charlie you made men of these boys where it counts the most in real life
Thanks for all your hard work Charlie you made men of these boys where it counts the most in real life
