WBA president Gilberto Mendoza: Errol Spence vs Yordenis Ugas has been Approved

[AlbertPullhoez]

From what I understand:

Spence has held firm on his insistence to clean up his "side of the street."

Meaning he wasn't even going to show up to the negotiations table until he beat the PBC welters.



With that understanding, I sincerely doubt that I'll ever agree with anyone that wants me to believe that Errol hasn't deliberately avoided Terence Crawford, in spite of the fact that Crawford is one of the more highly touted, accomplished, and active fighters in the welterweight division.

Furthermore, Crawford publicly criticized his former promoter for not being able to secure the Spence fight. We have seen footage of Crawford challenging Spence in person, and now we know for certain that he was asking for the Spence fight to be made behind the scenes. The opposite can be said for Spence, who has a record of tweets, interviews, press conferences and etcetera where he has gone on the record to explain why he refuses to fight Crawford.

I suppose if I use terms like duck or avoid, then people might misconstrue my intentions and think I'm calling Spence scared, which is not the truth.

He made a financial decision, and it has resulted in the top two welterweights not fighting for years now.


I'm a fan of Errol, too. I was in the building for Spence Porter, and while I remember the voracious cheers when Spence was awarded the decision, I also remember the collective displeasure when Danny Twelve Toes was ushered into the ring. Wasn't anyone asking for that shyt, everyone wanted to see Spence Crawford. Only after Spence was in a life threatening car accident was that fight even seen as passable.

Lastly, I think it's pretty clear that if the inverse scenario was true -- Crawford had a bevy of Top Rank welters to fight, and Spence was consistently passed over -- then many of the same posters in here would be shytting on Bob and Crawford for ducking Errol and hurting the sport.

Those are my thoughts.

Why you aint do that same fight by fight breakdown for Crawford's opps like you did for Spence?

 

[Apollo Creed]

Why you aint do that same fight by fight breakdown for Crawford's opps like you did for Spence?

cause nobody knows who Bud fought unless Spence beat em

 

[FreedMind]

Why you aint do that same fight by fight breakdown for Crawford's opps like you did for Spence?

It has been DONE TO DEATH. Crawford has been getting shytted on his entire career, what exactly would that change about this conversation?

Shoot straight: are you insinuating that Crawford hasn't earned the Spence fight?

 

[DallasTxRep]

Y'all just talking in circles in this bytch lol

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

Spence ducking until further notice…

 

[desjardins]

Furthermore, Crawford publicly criticized his former promoter for not being able to secure the Spence fight. We have seen footage of Crawford challenging Spence in person, and now we know for certain that he was asking for the Spence fight to be made behind the scenes. The opposite can be said for Spence, who has a record of tweets, interviews, press conferences and etcetera where he has gone on the record to explain why he refuses to fight Crawford.

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crawford had a clause in his deal to essentially fine TR if they couldn’t get the fight made. He was showing up to Spence fights first, confronting Spence in person, and basically begging for the fight in interviews
Blame Arum, Spence , or PBC but I don’t get how anyone could act like Crawford was the one blocking the fight


and imo a fighter shouldn’t have to take a lesser deal on paper just in the hopes to potentially land a fight in house. You actually got ppl online defending in house politics now

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Spence ducking until further notice…

This is a mandatory though, correct?

PBC obviously all about this fight.

But it’s boxing politics rather than ducking.

Ugas a dangerous opponent right here.

Troubling fight for Spence imo.

If Ugas odds are good I’m stacking on this.

 

[FreedMind]

This is a mandatory though, correct?

PBC obviously all about this fight.

But it’s boxing politics rather than ducking.

Ugas a dangerous opponent right here.

Troubling fight for Spence imo.

If Ugas odds are good I’m stacking on this.

Are you asking if Ugas was a mandatory? Because he isn't.

Ugas had a mandatory that stepped aside for the unification with Spence.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

This is a mandatory though, correct?

PBC obviously all about this fight.

But it’s boxing politics rather than ducking.

Ugas a dangerous opponent right here.

Troubling fight for Spence imo.

If Ugas odds are good I’m stacking on this.

This is not a mandatory they actually paid a step aside like poster above me said.


Boxing politics and ducking basically the same..

Munguia not fighting Andrade is politics because Golden Boy don’t won’t him to risk his zero just yet. But is that a duck or politics. Duck!

Everything Tank Davis does is boxing politics but in reality he ducking. He saying so and so don’t sell fights or so and so on another platform. He ain’t called out no top 135 pounder. He has a secondary belt at 135 and not trying to push for that fight. He the same as munguia.

Most boxers ducked Rigo under the guise of politics and money but in reality it’s a plain ole duck.

It’s funny that Stevenson and Haney is actually pushing for the big fights. No matter if Haney and Stevenson ever lose or flame out I will always be a fan because they about all the smoke and never bring up money. They actually taking chances.

PBC and Spence making the Ugas fight because it’s all in house and Ugas is a less of a threat plus there will be a rematch clause where Spence will still get majority of the pot. (I’m guessing )That would not be the case with Crawford. Add the fact they already dissed and deaded the Crawford fight now the proof in the pudding. Now they using the excuse that tricked Rigo out of his prime, the money excuse.

Really nothing left to be said the PBC fanboys aren’t going to change their mind. I’m a fan of boxing not purse splits, PPV buys, or who on what side of the street.

If Spence wanted the fight it would have happened by now and especially it would have happened around this time. Maybe Stanionas take another step aside but I doubt it. Why would he take a step aside when he believes he can beat Spence and Ugas and be in driving seat with 3 titles on line knowing that if Spence/Crawford do happen and they unify the winner would most likely move up once unifying , so that would leave him with less money and glory fighting for a vacant and that’s if it’s not rematch clause so yea.

So we can revisit this topic in 2023 while Spence fight Ugas and Stanionas in 2022.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

I wasn't sure if it was mandatory or not. Thanks for clearing up.

Munguia would be mad to fight Andrade after only a year at 154. He doesn't have the natural build yet for 154 like he did at 147. Andrade is a huge 154 and been there 5 years. That's a duck, sure, but there's levels of ducks. That's a logical duck. That's not a dip, dip dive duck.

A cold blooded duck to me is running from an opponent to another weight class, getting an organisation to create a fake belt etc.

Spence v Crawford you could say is a duck, but it's more a PBC duck than a Spence duck. Blame Al not Errol.

 

[DallasTxRep]

Y'all still in here talking about this bullshyt man????

 

[desjardins]

Are you asking if Ugas was a mandatory? Because he isn't.

Ugas had a mandatory that stepped aside for the unification with Spence.

For some reason I was thinking Ugas was a mandatory too, I know he paid Stanosis step aside but figured that was to push the other mandatory to the top on some order of operations steez.
I get it from both sides, Ugas and Spence, why they want this fight next. But the way shyt be working out in boxing Ugas fukk around and win or be close enough they have a rematch. Then who knows how PBC handles the mandatories afterward (hint:in house). It's not looking good right now for Spence vs Bud but ultimately Spence can change that with demands if he has the balls to force the fight assuming he beat Ugas

 

[FreedMind]

For some reason I was thinking Ugas was a mandatory too, I know he paid Stanosis step aside but figured that was to push the other mandatory to the top on some order of operations steez.
I get it from both sides, Ugas and Spence, why they want this fight next. But the way shyt be working out in boxing Ugas fukk around and win or be close enough they have a rematch. Then who knows how PBC handles the mandatories afterward (hint:in house). It's not looking good right now for Spence vs Bud but ultimately Spence can change that with demands if he has the balls to force the fight assuming he beat Ugas

The champion of one organization being ranked and designated as a mandatory challenger for another sanctioning body?

No, as far as I know, champions aren't ranked by other sanctioning bodies.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, because I think it's a bit strange that you and @chunky_mcdaniels thought the same.

 

[desjardins]

The champion of one organization being ranked and designated as a mandatory challenger for another sanctioning body?

No, as far as I know, champions aren't ranked by other sanctioning bodies.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, because I think it's a bit strange that you and @chunky_mcdaniels thought the same.

yea actually thinking about it it makes no sense. Ugas belt was the mandatory requirement he petitioned to pause on, so why would he then be a mandatory to Spence..

 

[Black_Jesus]

Spence and the PBC did a WHOLE LOT of string pulling and maneuvering in order to fight Ugas and adopt yet another mandatory vs making the fight everyone wants and the most meaningful fight legacy and money wise vs Crawford