oh well...
it's not my problem. it was gonna happen sooner or later plus why is everyone so worried america can get oil from somewhere else realistically, right?
WaPo Columnist Jamal Khashoggi killed by Saudis in Turkey; Senators Mull Magnitsky Sanctions
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oh well...
it's not my problem. it was gonna happen sooner or later plus why is everyone so worried america can get oil from somewhere else realistically, right?Json
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oh well...
Trade wars and sanctions are easy wins!!!
I know, right???
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Yeah they are. The murder of Khashoggi is going to be another crack on MBS armor. MBS is going to bring down the House of Saud with him. Here’s why. MBS rise to power has ticked off many members of the royal family. Him being the crown prince over his more qualified cousin Bin Nayaf was the first in Saudi history. Remember there is still tribal tensions within the royal family.
No you're not
A LOT of shyt will go wrong when that happens
Plus, Iran will flex so hard
The second crack in his armor was the quagmire in Yemen. Yeah the Saudis had to do something to fight the Houthis however MBS thought that the war would last a couple of months. Three years later with 1000 dead Saudi soldiers later theHouthis still control Sana’a. The war has becomes a quagmire simply put the war has moved to the hellish mountainous North Yemen where the Houthis guerilla war tactics has been hampering the war effort. The Saudis are pouring a lot of money in the war. They are paying the salaries of pro Hadi forces,the salaries of pro Hadi government workers. Also they are paying a lot of money of Yemenis fighters to man their borders since they are suffering heavy casualties from Houthi ambushes and raids at the border. So they are burning their cash reserves for that war and even if they somehow win they would have to rebuild of Yemen which will be in the trillions. MBS has made the war his baby but the Yemen ulcer is going to be a long term disaster for Saudi Arabia like Afghanistan was for the Soviet Union.
The third crack was the whole Qatar snafu. All it’s has weakened the GCC in a time where they want to confront Iran. All the blockade of Qatar has done is pushed Qatar closer to Turkey and Iranwhich is a strategic disaster of this continues. MBS Qatar blockade hasn’t worked and has made other neutral GCC nations(Oman,Kuwait,Jordan) beleery of Saudi leadership.
The next crack was the whole Ritz Carlton fiasco which had Saudi princes and Saudi elites arrested on charges of corruption. From reports MBS basically told them to give up a total of 100 billiondollars and then they would be let go. Some resisted but all of them gave up the goods. Many said this was done by MBS as a money grabbing scheme to fill the Saudi govt coffers as they are burning cash in Yemen, defense spending etc.However this move has created more resentment towards MBS which will haunt him in the long run when things start unravel under his rule. Alsosince then capital has been fleeing wealthy Saudis are putting their money outside their country out of fear the government is observing their financial records and transaction. They fear another RitzCarlton extortion down the line.
The other crack was the Hariri house arrest which blown up on MBS face which was a blatant attempt to influence Lebanese politics. What happened later was pro Hezbollah parties control the parliament and government.
And now this murder is another major crack. Khashoggi was well connected in Saudi high society. His murder will create much more resentment with the elites who are plotting to strike when MBS is at his weakest. It’s also to note MBS has arrested plenty pro governmentextremes Wahhabi clerics. When these guys are in jail who you think are rubbing shoulders with? ISIS and Al Qaeda prisoners. Which will bedisastrous since these clerics hold plenty of influence in the outside.
The reason why no one has made a move on MBS is because he has support in two important tiers of Saudi society. The military because he pays their salary. And the Saudi youth who love him because of his promises of modernization and liberalization. And Saudi Arabia has a large youth bulge. So he has support of the people and the military. Hence why he is such in a rush to have economic reform in the country to keep the gravy rolling. However all his actions his undermining his plans.
As I mentioned before capital flight from Saudi elites is hurting the economy. Since Ritz Carlton 800,000 foreign laborers has left the country. Foreign direct investment has plummeted from 7.5 billion to 1.4 billion since 2016. When there is collapsing foreign and domestic direct investment it’s not good for the long term plans for MBS 2030. And this murder will further lead to foreign and domestic money leave Saudi Arabia. Plus MBS wants to implement austerity but wants to increase defense spending to confront Iran and continue the money pit that is Yemen.
What is likely to happen is MBS won’t live up to his promises. The Saudi military and people turn against him which could get very ugly. The sign you will know shyt is about to hit the fan is when Saudi Arabia is near bankruptcy and there is mass prison breakouts of ISIS/Al Qaeda elements with the jailed Wahhabi clerics. Shiites rise up in rebellion in the Eastern province and the province at the Yemen border. The next Mideast disaster will be a collapsed Saudi society. It will worse than Syria/Libya/Yemen combined. The 2020s will be an interesting decade.
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Entropy Fan
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If he destabilizes Saudi arabia., Iran will move on eastern Shia province and Bahrain, and Turkey might seize Mecca again. Turkey has a naval Base a few miles away in Sudan, and a base in Qatar. Turkey and Iran will pick Saudi bones clean.
I don't see how the US can get involved without serious blowback.
so far this is fukking up the asian markets this morning
JP Morgan and Ford bosses pull out of Saudi event as Asian markets fall – business live
JP Morgan and Ford bosses pull out of Saudi event as Asian markets fall – business live
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Json
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It’s about time the Middle East map got redrawn and not by Europeans. We been trying to keep this version stitched together since the Ottoman Empire ended and Israel came into existence.
MBS daring Senators to pull up. The day has come brehs. The day we been waiting for has arrived. 
Json
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You know Kushner’s weaseling butt trying to find a way to keep Saudis from pulling up on the Trumps while Don has to tough talk about sanctions.MBS daring Senators to pull up. The day has come brehs. The day we been waiting for has arrived.
Turkey got proof.
