Blackrogue
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Really though? Ye top of the game when he ghostwritten. Granted his sound puts him up there but that's not all him
Vince Staples on who the best rapper alive is (+ all time greats) : He denies Eminem !
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Really though? Ye top of the game when he ghostwritten. Granted his sound puts him up there but that's not all him
He's the greatest rapper, of all time. Like...the greatest at rapping ever. And music too. I don't even know if he plays any instruments to any level of mastery but fukk it. He ain't gotta write his raps or blow his Tubas, to be the greatest rapper/musician ever. Michael Jackson Watch out.
missed the end of the interview...when he says that in terms of music quality, nobody in hip hop will ever compare to the likes of Michael Jackson, Elton John,... except maybe Kanye and Kendrick and a few other artists who are about the music.
few other rappers said the same shyt, its pretty spot on
only other guys I can see up there are the roots...I don't know anybody else who knows how to make music with flawless musical composition
few other rappers said the same shyt, its pretty spot on
only other guys I can see up there are the roots...I don't know anybody else who knows how to make music with flawless musical composition
So Summertime 06 is a certified classic? Might have to check it out then
And props to @SunZoo for hitting the haters with knowledge, only on the Coli can people say with an honest face that Kanye is top5 DoA
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at people not dressing like Eminem in 2017.. that shyt would be corny af. And the museum argument is invalid because Em is the rapper who flaunts his money the least
And props to @SunZoo for hitting the haters with knowledge, only on the Coli can people say with an honest face that Kanye is top5 DoA
And
at people not dressing like Eminem in 2017.. that shyt would be corny af. And the museum argument is invalid because Em is the rapper who flaunts his money the least
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if anything sunzoo ridiculised himself...dude managed to convince me eminem was lower than I thought on them all time lists
CrownHeights
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Did you even look it up before you replied? Dude said Treach was a huge influence on him...
Apparently not.
So Summertime 06 is a certified classic? Might have to check it out then
And props to @SunZoo for hitting the haters with knowledge, only on the Coli can people say with an honest face that Kanye is top5 DoA
And
you breh. "separate art from commerce"
Bu bu bu his clothing line didn't pop, he didn't set any fashion trends
Meanwhile....Kante is more of a marketer than an MC and has 0 fukking legacy outside of the COMMERCIAL (commerce being the root word here) side of music.
Pfft. Elvis was a legit icon. Eminem is nowhere near Elvis status. He's Wayne fukking Newton.
Stop posting vague shyt you fukkin KTT transplant...point the shyt up, debate whatever it is you think I said was off base and I'll either adjust my perspective and concede to you making a valid point or make you look stupid, pick one.
I'll make it easy for you and set up some a very concise list of things for you to address if you like.
I don't have to look up shyt about Eminem. I know he was INFLUENCED BY TREACH...that does not mean he stole his style. You wanna see an example of that I already broke down the difference in this thread.
I'm not gonna let nikkas revise history, sorry.
CrownHeights
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Right....I don't have to look up shyt about Eminem. I know he was INFLUENCED BY TREACH...that does not mean he stole his style. You wanna see an example of that I already broke down the difference in this thread.
I'm not gonna let nikkas revise history, sorry.
Right....
Step 1: Brush up on speak n spell.
Second, you are more than welcome these address these items I have pointed up as a summation of my postings in this thread...this is the gist of my opinions/arguments in a nutshell:
- Vince was right to not let the DJ dictate his opinion, that DJ is disgusting.
- Kanye west is not in the GOAT rapper conversation, he is not great at rapping.
- 2pac dropped 7 fukking albums BEFORE he died...how is his catalog too short, it's not too short, it's a means of degrading Pac to champion Kante.
- Only a dikkhead contraian would try to make a LBJ/MJ comparison about geriatric Jordan vs. LeBeta bron on an accelerated steroid program..
- Rappers like Kendrick and J Cole, who are at the forefront of the genre have cited Eminem as an influence (they be lying though)
- Influencing the way people rap >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fashion trends and blatant biting which USED to be a sin in this game.
Counter those...show me where I'm wrong, and I'm man enough to concede if you make any salient points. If you do respond try not to ridiculise yourself in the process.
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reserved_one
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Eminem's talent was never on par with the music he's released. I'll give Marshal Mathers LP the classic nod, but even that album hasn't aged the best. Its a shame because I fukked with Em alot when I was younger. These days, I have NO DESIRE to listen to any of his old or new shyt.
The white publications gave him way too much praise than he deserved imo...like Rolling Stone giving all his albums 4 stars and above
I agree Kendrick is the best rapper doing it currently right now...he's dropped 3 classics in a row (counting Section 80).
The white publications gave him way too much praise than he deserved imo...like Rolling Stone giving all his albums 4 stars and above
I agree Kendrick is the best rapper doing it currently right now...he's dropped 3 classics in a row (counting Section 80).
I like Vince's music but he's another one of these smart dumb nikkas.
Kanye is not better than Em as a rapper. We all know Consequence, Cudi and Big Sean wrote his rhymes. For some reason it's okay to discredit Drake and not Kanye as well.
He's trying to elevate rap's status by comparing anyone making music that could touch MJ. No. Kanye and Kendrick are nowhere near that level and their production is highly reliant on what everyone else isn't doing.
Just because no one else is having soulful samples or jazz bands on an album doesn't equal the best production. And their content on those beats matter just as much. Human Nature by MJ is classic for so many reasons. Lyrics is one of them, Kendrick's lyrics and emotional appeal don't even ascend his peers.
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Kanye is not better than Em as a rapper. We all know Consequence, Cudi and Big Sean wrote his rhymes. For some reason it's okay to discredit Drake and not Kanye as well.
He's trying to elevate rap's status by comparing anyone making music that could touch MJ. No. Kanye and Kendrick are nowhere near that level and their production is highly reliant on what everyone else isn't doing.
Just because no one else is having soulful samples or jazz bands on an album doesn't equal the best production. And their content on those beats matter just as much. Human Nature by MJ is classic for so many reasons. Lyrics is one of them, Kendrick's lyrics and emotional appeal don't even ascend his peers.
FOH