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[IllmaticDelta]

The major's played (play ?) a HUGE part in deciding who got (gets) signed and who could get
exposure.

So there are young bassists, guitarists, trumpet players, sax players etc.
Who can't hope to have careers because the people who decide who gets
airtime have decided "no one wants to hear that".

facts...most people don't know Lizzo is a classically trained flautist because they hear her for what made her popular

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or the Ty Dolla can play bass and piano because of his HipHop stuff

 

[DontEemTry]

This was flames

 

[Kufi]

Anyone have the full replay?

 

[Flawdaboi]

 

[Insensitive]

facts...most people don't know Lizzo is a classically trained flautist because they hear her for what made her popular

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or the Ty Dolla can play bass and piano because of his HipHop stuff

Then you've got guys like Q-Tip with perfect pitch.
Terrace Martin whose not only a skilled producer and rapper but
he can play sax at a very high level.
Quik can play his ass off too.
Hell even Dre can play the piano:



The problem is SO many people don't realize that musicians make music,
They too often think "I need a machine !!!!" to do so.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Then you've got guys like Q-Tip with perfect pitch.
Terrace Martin whose not only a skilled producer and rapper but
he can play sax at a very high level.
Quik can play his ass off too.
Hell even Dre can play the piano:



The problem is SO many people don't realize that musicians make music,
They too often think "I need a machine !!!!" to do so.

quik, tip, dre all old AF and are part of the generation that came up when instruments/school music programs were a big part of life.

 

[Insensitive]

quik, tip, dre all old AF and are part of the generation that came up when instruments/school music programs were a big part of life.

That's what I mean by exposure, all of these guys were exposed to Black Musicians growing up.
And Major labels weren't averse to Black Bands.

With that said, I think Quik and Dre became musicians in the traditional sense after their introduction to Hip-Hop
not prior to it.

And for the brehs who don't know:

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I'm not saying NO kids are playing instruments....but its def not a common thing in a lot of the country. I wasnt being absolute in my statement but ita a fact that many schools have cut music education overall esp in inner city schools. That's just an inarguable fact

There are still musicians coming up thru church sure but it's not as strong or prevalent as before

HBCU is one of the last strongholds, agreed...I went to FAMU so I know all about that but that being said....

Lot of kids(black, white, whatever) now idolize producers and DJ....they wanna be the next Metro or Diplo not the next Jimi, Ernie, Eddie Van Halen

Not because of lack of musicians but more because the industry doesn't make them a priority for the most part:

Hypnotic Brass band from Chicago should be stars; they can play anything and have connections to Sun-Ra (jazz musician)



they have collaborated with many people

They have performed with Mos Def, Aquilla Sadalla, Phil Cohran, The Recipe, Nomadic Massive, Tony Allen, Wu Tang Clan, De La Soul, Prince, Femi Kuti, Gorillaz, The B-52's, and at the North Sea Jazz Festival. They have recorded with names ranging from Snoop Dogg, Ben Billions Erykah Badu to RZA and Ghostface Killah of the Wu Tang Clan to BK-One to Childish Gambino to Maxwell. They supported Blur for their Hyde Park reunion concerts on 2–3 July 2009. They are also collaborators on a number of tracks from the third Gorillaz studio album, Plastic Beach. Their hit song "War" was featured in the box office smash The Hunger Games as the theme song for Caesar Flickerman, and on the soundtrack for season 4 of Fargo. It was sampled in "American Royalty" by Childish Gambino featuring RZA in Childish Gambino's 2012 mixtape Royalty. They collaborated on tracks with the group Rocket Juice & the Moon, a project featuring Damon Albarn (Blur, Gorillaz) on vocals/guitar/keyboard, Flea (Red Hot Chili Peppers) on bass, and legendary Afrobeat drummer Tony Allen (Fela Kuti and many others) on the group's self-titled debut album.

....but they are practically unknown to mainstream

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or Trombone Shorty who was out in these Orleans streets since he was 4



playing with people like Wynton Marsalis



...I remember him getting some shine almost 10 years ago but now I haven't much from him

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or Gary Clark jr who should be a mega star





....I remember it was looking like he was going to be big at one point but the shine has since faded

 

[m0rninggl0ry]

passed out after the 10minute break and missed the whole second half

Where's the replay at? View media item 20824

damn you missed it

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

damn you missed it

But where is the replay tho?

 

[m0rninggl0ry]

But where is the replay tho?

YouTube but it won't do any good. You should captured while live

 

[frush11]

Anyone have the full replay?

Check YouTube, full version should be up there.

 

[MVike28]

Look at how miserable this cracker ass cracker Rosenberg looks in the video

Soul music just erases CACS...ZERO presence/opinion/insight

fukk all of em

 

[Trot LaRoc]

Look at how miserable this cracker ass cracker Rosenberg looks in the video

Soul music just erases CACS...ZERO presence/opinion/insight

fukk all of em

Yup even the super duper "I'm a hiphop head" dont know shyt about r&b. They are hyperfocused on hiphop only haha

I had one co worker who was all about "real hiphop" i.e. 90s east coast only and he didnt even know who Joe was

 

[frush11]

it's a myth that the younger generation aren't playing instruments because all one has to do is look at the youngns coming up in either the black church, hbcu bands and the new orleans brass band culture to see that the myth is false.

Kids are playing instruments, but continuing with it and forming bands. These things aren't really happening. Even in an area like DC with Gogo, where 30 years ago, every Black area in PG, DC, and even in certain areas off Montgomery County had a "Band" or 2.

I party with a couple off people who worked at Duke Ellington(Performing Art School) . And even they said the number off kids coming in there for music is dropping all the time.

Especially with modern day Black music, kids don't really see a pathway to superstardom playing instruments. They just see themselves becoming session and backing band guys. And if they fortunate enough maybe become writers, producers and composers.

And other then Bluenote and a few Boutique New wave Jazz and Soul Labels. Labels aint signing none Rockish Musicians.

Just my take