Verzuz Presents: Fat Joe vs Ja Rule 9/14 @ 9PM ET

[King Harlem]

I'm happy for Ja and he won the verzuz easily.
But after playing the records at home.....I enjoy the Fat Joe records more.
But that isn't what verzuz is.

 

[Controversy]

S/o to Rule for showing the world he wasn't no slouch

And yes, he would've beat 50 in a verzuz

 

[BlueHeffner]

S/o to Rule for showing the world he wasn't no slouch

And yes, he would've beat 50 in a verzuz

Nah

 

[Asicz]

We gotta have a conversation about how many non Black Rap (partculary many White American & White Hispanic American listeners have Rap music preferences that are adverse to R&B and Rap music that has clear or prominent R&B elements, characteristics,

so they will gravitate towards certain acts and songs that don't prominately feature R&B elements like singing and certain types of melody harmony and instrumentation. (Unless samples looped or chopped up to oblivion)


The problem is that with Black American Music the features of R and B are FOUNDATIONAL and alot Rap music has R and B nuances that go with it.

That's a big part of why Murder Inc sold millions of records.

I'm glad to see Ja Rule remind us through his live performance why his music did well on radio and music video shows and even was tolerable to older demographics who may have not enjoyed Rap in general, but enjoyed his songs that could get play on other radio formats outside of Rap radio (Urban Adult contemporary etc) plus liked him as a vocalist.

Ja Rule really checked of spot of boxes in his prime in a good way.

 

[Illmagic]

I just watch it. I enjoyed it for the most part. I wish Ja had dipped more in his street/ album cut bag in the 1st half to match Fat Joes energy. Like how you play Between me and you after Deep Cover . I woulda loved to have heard Dial M for Murder, 6 Feet underground and Maybe Race against time. We all know Ja got hits but people dont give props to how good his other stuff is.

The 2nd half coulda been more about hits and Ja just got wayyy too many to beat on stage. On top of that he still sounds great live. Thats really why he won this and why he woulda washed 50 too. If they were just playing songs it might go to 50. But when you add the performance part too it just different. 50 made the right call to duck him. Be stupid to give Ja a W on him this late in the game.

The deep cover with Remy was flames. Def my fav performance of the event.

 

[Controversy]

Nah

All 50 would've did is stand in the same spot & do the Chopin' motion from right to left, furiously

 

[Frida Giezman]

.

 

[mobbinfms]

We gotta have a conversation about how many non Black Rap (partculary many White American & White Hispanic American listeners have Rap music preferences that are adverse to R&B and Rap music that has clear or prominent R&B elements, characteristics,

so they will gravitate towards certain acts and songs that don't prominately feature R&B elements like singing and certain types of melody harmony and instrumentation. (Unless samples looped or chopped up to oblivion)


The problem is that with Black American Music the features of R and B are FOUNDATIONAL and alot Rap music has R and B nuances that go with it.

That's a big part of why Murder Inc sold millions of records.

I'm glad to see Ja Rule remind us through his live performance why his music did well on radio and music video shows and even was tolerable to older demographics who may have not enjoyed Rap in general, but enjoyed his songs that could get play on other radio formats outside of Rap radio (Urban Adult contemporary etc) plus liked him as a vocalist.

Ja Rule really checked of spot of boxes in his prime in a good way.

There used to be a divide in hip hop between underground and mainstream/commercial. Hip hop had artistic integrity back in the day. Anything with R&B or singing was considered watered down hip hop. I realize it’s difficult to fathom that this could have been the case if you didn’t live through it, given how any and everything is accepted nowadays.

 

[DaHNIC82]

I just watch it. I enjoyed it for the most part. I wish Ja had dipped more in his street/ album cut bag in the 1st half to match Fat Joes energy. Like how you play Between me and you after Deep Cover . I woulda loved to have heard Dial M for Murder, 6 Feet underground and Maybe Race against time. We all know Ja got hits but people dont give props to how good his other stuff is.

The 2nd half coulda been more about hits and Ja just got wayyy too many to beat on stage. On top of that he still sounds great live. Thats really why he won this and why he woulda washed 50 too. If they were just playing songs it might go to 50. But when you add the performance part too it just different. 50 made the right call to duck him. Be stupid to give Ja a W on him this late in the game.

The deep cover with Remy was flames. Def my fav performance of the event.

Fam if Ja would have done this



It would have put Dirt further in the dirt

 

[Tony D'Amato]

When n1ggaz say 50 would lose a versuz, do yall realize how big In da club and 21 questions is? Then his mixtape sh1t. I smell pu$$y. You not like me. Then go to the massacre. Fifs first 2 albums are only rivaled by Bigs first 2.

 

[mobbinfms]

Fifs first 2 albums are only rivaled by Bigs first 2.

 

[JustCKing]

Hip hop had artistic integrity back in the day. Anything with R&B or singing was considered watered down hip hop.

Even back in the day, that was a purists philosophy. It was an ignorant stance to take considering where Hip Hop was at pre-90's. It wasn't all grimey, no smiling with gutter lyrics and content. Artists actually had fun and had songs that people could dance to. Even something like "The Message" was something you could dance too while appreciating the lyrics and the content.

 

[InstantKlassik]

Stop inserting Mobb Deep in all things concerning solo acts

 

[mobbinfms]

Even back in the day, that was a purists philosophy. It was an ignorant stance to take considering where Hip Hop was at pre-90's. It wasn't all grimey, no smiling with gutter lyrics and content. Artists actually had fun and had songs that people could dance to. Even something like "The Message" was something you could dance too while appreciating the lyrics and the content.

You left out the part where I said that there was a divide between underground and mainstream.
And you can dance to hip hop that doesn’t have singing on the hook or a loop of an R&B record as the beat.

 

[JustCKing]

You left out the part where I said that there was a divide between underground and mainstream.
And you can dance to hip hop that doesn’t have singing on the hook or a loop of an R&B record as the beat.

Even underground songs had singing on them though.