Velma, of Scooby Doo, alternative animation, HBO max, Jan 12

[TripleAgent]

Every now and then someone who is a minority is prominent involved with the creation or promotion of a work that turns out to not be very good. These works garner an inordinate amount of backlash as people continue to dogpile on them. The reality is the people who simply don't like the work because it's bad are being riled up and weaponized by the anti-woke mob to send a message that minorities and marginalized groups shouldn't be allowed to create major works. The origins of the work being dislike almost always pre-date the work being released because the anti-woke mob as soon as they see the minority involved lays the groundwork for it.

Velma is a deeply flawed work but it's not necessarily because a minority was the driving force behind it but instead because a good chunk of the humor isn't really funny and it props it self up on source material it doesn't really have anything to do with.

Example: Disney just did a live action version of Pinocchio. It came out and it was poorly received. There is no outrage raging about it and almost nobody talks about it anymore. Check the discourse of She-Hulk or The Little Mermaid Live Action and there's either a simmering or huge outrage over them. Even go back and look at people talk about Black Widow.

If you're a woman or minority and heavily involved in the creation or promotion of a major work that shyt better be academy award level good or it will be torn down to an absurd level.

Well written as usual, but no my guy, THIS SHOW IS PURE UNCUT ASS. Whoever thought they could apply the Harley Quinn formula to Scooby Doo and failed at every single turn.

Saw a review by a guy who was a former studio exec, and he said something that was insightful. He said that the easiest people to please with an IP is the existing fans. Therefore, you can focus on picking up new ones, but you shouldn't do anything to isolate the original fans. He said if someone pitched Velma to him, with it's subverting everything and seemingly intentionally destroying the basis of the original, he'd say why. Why would you want to do that? Why would you want to piss off longtime fans. Sure you can change things, update things, even subvert things. But it all should be done with the spirit of the original. With this, they've pissed off longterm Scooby Doo fans and the potential new audience isn't feeling it either. This has resulted in a failure all around.

Some of the infinite problems of this dreck.

 

[drederick tatum]

I watched the first 2 episodes out of morbid curiosity after reading all the hate, and while it's deserved (the show is bad), it's just enough of a mystery to where I want to see how it ends. I've had to break up each episode into intervals because it's so bad, but it being only 30 minutes helps

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

That's why I've never gotten down with all this race swapping shyt. It's all an illusion, studios saying "Here nikka damn!"

Instead of giving us our own stories, they just drop somebody who'll just be a footnote in a long line of whiteness.

Exactly. It's just Hollywood execs and other powers that be giving us crumbs thinking that it can satisfy us. Yet, when I and many people point this out... cue the derogatory names.

Creating new stories based on certain cultures requires hard work, research and a degree of talent. Something that Hollywood and mainstream media lacks nowadays. People are better off creating their own stories.

 

[Uncle Baby Billy]

Can anyone who has actually watched this give an opinion_
I'm guessing that it's as terrible as it looks.

 

[winb83]

Well written as usual, but no my guy, THIS SHOW IS PURE UNCUT ASS. Whoever thought they could apply the Harley Quinn formula to Scooby Doo and failed at every single turn.

Some of the infinite problems of this dreck.

I didn't say the show wasn't bad. This show isn't some unicorn. Scooby Doo has had a lot of remakes and revisits. At this point is just this one not being a tried and true remake even all that important? It's not like oh they'll never touch this property again. The only real reason people are so passionate about their hate here is the races of characters. Otherwise this turns into hey it's a disappointing remake of Scooby Doo oh no, anyway.

The people so outraged about this show wasn't waiting with bated breath praying for a masterpiece. They got exactly what they wanted like a linebacker when the QB fumbles the ball they picked it up and ran it back for 6. People wanted the show to be bad before it came out because somebody brown was involved. The show was bad and they're gleefully tearing it down.

 

[Conz]

pretty mad Glenn Howerton and Sam Richardson are attached to this.

 

[feelosofer]

Having actually seen this. This show has the vibe of a mid level adult swim show. Its almost like a very poor man's Venture Brothers (forgive me for putting such a brilliant show in the same vein). I don't think its as bad as people say it is but if you're going to subvert expectations you gotta go all the way.

Mystery Inc did this already but way better.

 

[TripleAgent]

I didn't say the show wasn't bad. This show isn't some unicorn. Scooby Doo has had a lot of remakes and revisits. At this point is just this one not being a tried and true remake even all that important? It's not like oh they'll never touch this property again. The only real reason people are so passionate about their hate here is the races of characters. Otherwise this turns into hey it's a disappointing remake of Scooby Doo oh no, anyway.

The people so outraged about this show wasn't waiting with bated breath praying for a masterpiece. They got exactly what they wanted like a linebacker when the QB fumbles the ball they picked it up and ran it back for 6. People wanted the show to be bad before it came out because somebody brown was involved. The show was bad and they're gleefully tearing it down.

You're overthinking. The show is doo doo juice. I literally looked like through both episodes. Not even a chuckle. GARBAGE.

 

[Luke Cage]

I didn't say the show wasn't bad. This show isn't some unicorn. Scooby Doo has had a lot of remakes and revisits. At this point is just this one not being a tried and true remake even all that important? It's not like oh they'll never touch this property again. The only real reason people are so passionate about their hate here is the races of characters. Otherwise this turns into hey it's a disappointing remake of Scooby Doo oh no, anyway.

The people so outraged about this show wasn't waiting with bated breath praying for a masterpiece. They got exactly what they wanted like a linebacker when the QB fumbles the ball they picked it up and ran it back for 6. People wanted the show to be bad before it came out because somebody brown was involved. The show was bad and they're gleefully tearing it down.

you're right, there is a large that hate this just because brown people. But its not getting love from the left either because it sexualizes 15 year old. literally had a nude shower scene with 15 year olds.

 

[winb83]

you're right, there is a large that hate this just because brown people. But its not getting love from the left either because it sexualizes 15 year old. literally had a nude shower scene with 15 year olds.

I thought it was doing a parody of horror movies.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

People hate watched it like they always do and now it’s going to get a 2nd season

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

pretty mad Glenn Howerton and Sam Richardson are attached to this.

He needs a new agent or something because he's way too talented for where his career is at. I still don't even know if I like or hate AP Bio.

 

[Conz]

He needs a new agent or something because he's way too talented for where his career is at. I still don't even know if I like or hate AP Bio.

never even bothered checking it out. Rob seems to be doing well with his Apple show and the soccer shyt, and Charlie has Luigi, but after the Horrible Bosses movies, even he seemed like he didn't have much happening. Dee just pops up here and there. The Mick was probably better than AP Bio but i didn't watch that ever. i'm part of the reason network comedy is dead

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

never even bothered checking it out. Rob seems to be doing well with his Apple show and the soccer shyt, and Charlie has Luigi, but after the Horrible Bosses movies, even he seemed like he didn't have much happening. Dee just pops up here and there. The Mick was probably better than AP Bio but i didn't watch that ever. i'm part of the reason network comedy is dead

As you certainly surmised from clips and trailers…The Mick was a generic fox sitcom, and AP Bio was a generic NBC sitcom. They’re exactly what you think they were. I thought The Mick had more potential because the cast was better, though the premise of AP Bio was better.

 

[Luke Cage]

I thought it was doing a parody of horror movies.

i don't know any horror movies that have fully nude 15 year old shower scenes.