Unpopular Opinion: Iron Man Match between Rock and HHH was much better than the Iron Man at Mania 12

[TheBigBopper]

The Iron Man Match between Rock and HHH at judgment day 2000 remains my favorite match whereas Bret’s and Michaels’ was a snooze fest. I’ve only managed to get through the latter once, as opposed to Rock’s and Hunter’s which I watch at least once a year.

what do y’all think ?

 

[Ill-Yaz]

The Judgement Day match had much more drama

 

[R=G]

Unpopular? Common sense..the WM 12 match is sickening. The first 20 mins is the biggest waste of time in pro wrestling history besides maybe Goldberg/Lesnar.

 

[Riley Escobar]

This isn't unpopular at all, the WM12 Iron Man match is possibly the most overrated match of all time

A better discussion would be which Iron Man was better out of Rock/HHH or Angle/Lesnar

 

[CM_Burns]

Thats not an unpopular opinion anymore I don't think. HHH vs Rock had a much hotter crowd for the 60 minutes and it was entertaining the whole way.

 

[showtime]

Storytelling 101

HBK vs Bret told a great story and how they both had different strategies to win the match. If you watched the build to the match Bret was talking about how HBK and his high-flying style would cause him to make a mistake and he would get the first fall early and then use rest holds to keep him down the rest of the match. But HBK instead counters this by changing his style and starting the first half of the match doing only rest holds so this would not happen. Then by doing so many rest holds he would tire Bret down and catch him with the Superkick which he tried doing but he missed. This pissed Bret off and for the second half of the match Bret get's more aggressive. At the end of the match HBK gets desperate seeing the clock ticking away so he starts getting careless this is where Bret catches him in the sharpshooter but it's to late and the clock runs out. Then Bret thinks he won but they force him to comeback for Overtime and Bret was already frustrated by the match not going his way so now he's really upset and he loses focus, and that is how HBK catches him with the Superkick to win the match. So HBK's strategy worked causing Bret to get frustrated and lose focus.


It's really classic great storytelling but if you go back and watch the match without any context of any of this then I can see how it would be boring to some people.


Plus the ending of the Judgement Day Iron man match is completely botched the timing of the clock and the ending was way off.


It's hard to compare them both really one is like an old school classic slow burn movie and the other is a fast and the furious type movie with non-stop action

 

[Art Barr]

lesnar v angle is better than both.

art barr

 

[RobertoDuran]

It's the correct opinion, the WM12 match sucks. TBH, the Hart/HBK rivalry is extremely disappointing considering the talent involved. Their best match was their last one.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

ADD WWE babies. Smh.

HBK-Hitman was better. If you grew up watching NWA wrestling you could appreciate the pace and slow build of that match.

 

[Rell84shots]

This isn't unpopular at all, the WM12 Iron Man match is possibly the most overrated match of all time

A better discussion would be which Iron Man was better out of Rock/HHH or Angle/Lesnar

That depends on what you like more. From a wrestling aspect Angle vs Lesnar wins easily, but from a sports entertainment aspect it's Rock vs HHH. What I loved most about Angle vs Lesnar was Lesnar sacrificing a W by hitting Angle with a chair at the beginning, so that way Kurt was compromised for the rest of the match.

 

[RobertoDuran]

ADD WWE babies. Smh.

HBK-Hitman was better. If you grew up watching NWA wrestling you could appreciate the pace and slow build of that match.

I've seen plenty of NWA broadways, and a lot of them are way more interesting and faster paced with even fewer moves used than in WM12. That Ironman match is not good. If I'd rank 60+ minute matches in wrestling history, that match would be pretty low.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I've seen plenty of NWA broadways, and a lot of them are way more interesting and faster paced with even fewer moves used than in WM12. That Ironman match is not good. If I'd rank 60+ minute matches in wrestling history, that match would be pretty low.

No they weren’t. The pace of that match was typical of a NWA championship match. NWA matches were not faster paced than that. They had a lot of rest holds and slow building action. That Ironman match was meant to have that traditional technical wrestling feel to it. Unfortunately WWF fans think that’s boring.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

All three are great (including Angle/Lesnar), but this is actually the first time I’ve ever heard the WM 12 get slandered in any way. I can always count on the Coli to come up with something that was never said and everybody agreeing

 

[Jim Cornette]

As a kid that iron match wm 12 was the best match of all time..

But it's kinda ass they didnt include any falls in the full 60 mins.

Guess neither of em wanted to put the other one over


Rock vs HHH was definitely more entertaining.. the HHH finish was ass of course

 

[Rell84shots]

As a kid that iron match wm 12 was the best match of all time..

But it's kinda ass they didnt include any falls in the full 60 mins.

Guess neither of em wanted to put the other one over


Rock vs HHH was definitely more entertaining.. the HHH finish was ass of course

The crowd response to the verdict proves that HHH was the biggest heel in wrestling during that time.