United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in Midtown Manhattan this morning (Update 12/9: Suspect in custody)

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All respect, that is a strawman argument, and 'stacking the deck'

I think you are making it in good faith, but I can't fairly respond to an argument I am not making.

This is where the it "feels" like violence, and the use of the word is interesting. If someone's mother has a condition that is maybe fatal, and is denied coverage, which forces hardship, like debt and loss of work, and even ends in death, I get that, it's wrong, and it is painful. That is fundamentally not the same thing as someone gunning down the person's mother, like a stash house hit in Tijuana. Even if we are going to call the medical denial 'violence', which is a serious stretch for me, it's not the same as physical violence. Like an execution out of nowhere.

But, this is not me making some kind of "what about" argument about the CEO's murder. I'm not even saying murder is wrong, just that they are not the same things and it is a bad argument. A totally emotionally based one.


You sound like a scumbag lawyer trying to chop it down to "manslaughter" :scust:
 

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It's not charged as terrorism, it's murder for the benefit or intent/ of terrorism, which is a politically motivated act of violence, in an attempt to cause chaos, revolution, further a cause. That would all be terrorism.

The same way murder committed for the benefit of a street gang. Or murder as a hate crime.

It's not really a stretch in the highest profile DA's office in the country, which is known for politically sensitive cases. They want to set an example, and get the win on the board.

I think the US Attorney's Office will charge him too with similar charges.
 
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New York Considering Special Hotline Just for CEOs to Report Alleged Threats to Their Safety After Brian Thompson Killing​



Social media users slammed Kathy Hochul for floating using taxpayer dollars to fund the potential hotline.​

Taylor Odisho /Published Dec 17 2024, 11:26 AM EST

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Kathy Hochul may potentially create a hotline "just for CEOs" who feel threatened. ANGELA WEISS/AFP
New York Governor Kathy Hochul is considering creating a special hotline just for CEOs to report alleged threats to their safety after UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was gunned down in the middle of Manhattan earlier this month, according to a report.

Ahead of a "proactive" meeting between Hochul and175 corporate representatives, counterterrorism officials and Homeland Security on Tuesday, CNN reported that New York was considering the CEO hotline option.

The meeting was scheduled to ensure "the state resources, specifically the domestic counterterrorism resources, are focused on being supportive, sharing information," Kathy Wylde, CEO of the Partnership for New York City, told Politico.

"This demonstrates that New York has the most prepared and capable counterterrorism resources in the country. There's no safer place to be," Wylde added.

If executives at the many companies headquartered in New York City relocated because of safety concerns, New York City's GDP, which generated $1.286 trillion in 2023, would be threatened.

Officials continue painting threats against companies and executives as "domestic terrorism." Most recently, Briana Boston was initially charged by a Florida court of threats to conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism, which can carry a sentence of 15 years in prison, after she told a BlueCross BlueShield employee, "Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next" because her health insurance claim was denied.

Social media users were shocked by the news and questioned why the New York governor would consider using taxpayer dollars to fund the hotline for multi-millionaire CEOs and billion-dollar companies.

"I don't seem to remember this kind of a state response and resources going to NYC when the homicide rate spiked around 2022 but I guess that was just regular people," X user @lukewgoldstein shared.


I don’t seem to remember this kind of a state response and resources going to NYC when the homicide rate spiked around 2022 but I guess that was just regular people x.com

— Luke Goldstein (@lukewgoldstein)
December 13, 2024

"There have been 322 school shootings this year. This should radicalize you," another X user stated the same day a 15-year-old student opened fire on her classmates, killing three and injuring six.

There have been 322 school shootings this year. This should radicalize you. x.com

— potato bun (@erewhonsmoothie)
December 17, 2024

"Kathy Hochul weighing a special safety hotline for CEOs at the same time she's debating whether to veto a bill to curb workplace deaths and injuries," X user @ravi_mangla pointed out.

Kathy Hochul weighing a special safety hotline for CEOs at the same time she's debating whether to veto a bill to curb workplace deaths and injuries. x.com pic.twitter.com/DzLQ5q8xQg

— Ravi Mangla (@ravi_mangla)
December 16, 2024

"How about an 'exclusive' hotline for if your insurance company won't pay for your meds? If climate-related flooding destroys your home? If your tax dollars are supporting a genocide? If an executive exploits tax loopholes? A government contractor steals taxpayer money?" X user @snmrrw commented.

How about an 'exclusive' hotline for if your insurance company won't pay for your meds? If climate-related flooding destroys your home? If your tax dollars are supporting a genocide? If an executive exploits tax loopholes? A government contractor steals taxpayer money? x.com

— Sean Morrow (@snmrrw)
December 16, 2024

"Democracy is when rich people get a special hotline for their own personal protection," another X user posted.

Democracy is when rich people get a special hotline for their own personal protection x.com

— Bryce Greene (@TheGreeneBJ)
December 16, 2024
 

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1/12
Culture Crave 🍿

UnitedHealth Group has reportedly filed a DMCA claim to stop an artist from selling merchandise that featured CEO shooter Luigi Mangione

There was no UHG logo on the design, just her artwork

📷 rachelkenaston | IG

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2/12
‪Culture Crave 🍿‬ ‪@culturecrave.co‬

Her IG

https://www.instagram.com/rachelkenaston?igsh=MWdnbWpiZTY2anllbQ==

An ecommerce lawyer says they would not be able to copyright a word or acronym like 'CEO'



3/12
‪Rafa‬ ‪@nekonoani.bsky.social‬

It would be so sad if people started flooding these e-commerce websites with countless designs featuring Luigi

I certainly hope people don’t get ideas!

4/12
‪David Giltinan 👾🗣️🎙️‬ ‪@davidgiltinan.com‬

LOL as if they own Luigi’s name or likeness 😂 This is just straight up censorship and suppression. Nothing more and nothing less.

5/12
‪Soup‬ ‪@pappisoup.bsky.social‬

Just skipping the frills and sending the message directly in our faces lol

6/12
‪Hazel 🏳️‍⚧️🙂↕️‬ ‪@ahazelnut.bsky.social‬

i get why he got shot now

7/12
‪Icarus‬ ‪@ieyke.bsky.social‬

Time to turn the DMCA claim into a T-shirt and sell that.

8/12
‪contralaluna.bsky.social‬ ‪@contralaluna.bsky.social‬

So can we agree that this is just censorship

9/12
‪unixorn.bsky.social‬ ‪@unixorn.bsky.social‬

Why am I not shocked that UHC is abusing the DMCA system to deny someone the ability to make money?

10/12
‪Christian Mutig‬ ‪@ductos.bsky.social‬

How is his face *their* intellectual property?

11/12
‪Ben Walker, AKA Infinite Fury‬ ‪@infinitefury2k.bsky.social‬

It's not. What's been going around him might have been haunting the people who worked for that CEO tho.

It's like a "Don't say that name" from Endgame type of situation.

12/12
‪Madd Minotaur‬ ‪@maddminotaur.bsky.social‬

That's not how DMCA works 😩

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1/20
The Serfs

Dylan Roof killed 9 Black people trying to start a race war.
He wasn't charged with terrorism.

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‪Sam‬ ‪@pilot2969.bsky.social‬

It’s only terrorism if the targets were white and wealthy.

3/20
‪Cutbush‬ ‪@cutbush.bsky.social‬

This terrorism charge is laughable. Shooting one CEO is terrorism,but shooting up schools is just a weekly occurrence? The ultra wealthy are the fukking terrorists. They have been terrorizing workers and the vulnerable for too long.

4/20
‪Dissident Love‬ ‪@dissidentlove.bsky.social‬

Yeah, but now IMPORTANT people are scared. /s

5/20
‪Dammit Catlord‬ ‪@catlurd.bsky.social‬

Did those 9 Black persons ever deny you health care and rake in millions for themselves?
That's the difference. Protected classes.

6/20
‪LeoBred‬ ‪@leobred86.bsky.social‬

The White community people relishes in its barbarism. Whether they choose to acknowledge it or not.

7/20
‪TRG‬ ‪@q4nwspunk.bsky.social‬

💯 Hallmark of MAGA AMERIKKKA

8/20
‪cece‬ ‪@ceceliberal.bsky.social‬

THIS THURSDAY - PEACEFUL GATHERING IN SUPPORT OF LUIGI MANGIONE.

~from:mangionecommunity.bsky.social

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9/20
‪TIMOTHY LEWIS HEIST‬ ‪@bigtim06.bsky.social‬

Yeah… beyond the racial aspects, this is oligarchy enforcing obeyance.

10/20
‪lo zaloom‬ ‪@lozaloom.bsky.social‬

i prefer hate crimes change to domestic terrorism crimes as that is what they are.

11/20
‪Bing‬ ‪@bingo46.bsky.social‬

Because the DA agreed with him.

12/20
‪Anna Rompage‬ ‪@annarompage.bsky.social‬

I don’t belive any school shooter has been charged with terrorism either

13/20
‪Trickle Down‬ ‪@trickledown.bsky.social‬

Pretty sure everyone here knows that’s a “feature not a bug” of capitalism

Race war = low wages

Class war = high wages

14/20
‪Joyful Traveler‬ ‪@dolomitemick.bsky.social‬

But he was sentenced to death nevertheless.

15/20
‪squinting at the hellscape‬ ‪@manneefpv.bsky.social‬

dylan roof wasn't a threat to the ruling corporate elite

16/20
‪Public Record Sourcerer‬ ‪@publicrecdsource.bsky.social‬



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‪nightlunch‬ ‪@nightlunch.bsky.social‬

were they CEOs

18/20
‪DrGeophysics‬ ‪@drgeophysics.bsky.social‬

Outrageous then, outrageous now.

19/20
‪Hugo Skavez‬ ‪@hugoskavez.bsky.social‬

This fukking country

20/20
‪Adult Tattletale Club Fugitive of Bluesky.‬ ‪@ianfukkingkramer.bsky.social‬

One of these post will get you attention insteadof falling flat one day.

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