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He's not wrong in saying the product is soft or that younger guys not having the opportunity to "learn" how to work different stuff in their respective style has hurt the ring work of the younger generation.

But the blame in those cases is with the company AND the older wrestlers, not the new guys.

The manly man is just some retarded shyt he says without even putting much thought behind it after decades being in the wrestling bubble.

Y’all need to watch the actual interview to get the gist of what he was saying. He is absolutely right that there is an edge that was there before that isn’t there now.

I don't think anyone can question that. But the shoulder of the blame for that specific issue isn't on the wrestlers.
 

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Outside of a handful most of the wrestlers these days have no heart.

Yeah the product isn't as gritty as it used to be, but the wrestlers aren't either & they're not as charismatic.:yeshrug:
The real problem is they are not as charismatic. They don’t have the life experience to pull from to make a layered character.

most of them were nerds growing up and only was ever into wrestling. And the others were models or something. The excessive drug use and partying is not necessary but these dudes are not in the streets at all so they don’t experience life outside of wrestling.
 
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Him and joe were talking about the product with how he can’t watch it— like none of us can

but somehow we spinning it towards taker being mad nikkas not druggies


That don’t even make any sense lmao
Taker is a p*ssy for bytching about labor when the issue is the CEO. He's earned the clout to speak his mind but remains Vince's lapdog. You're focusing on a small take away of a bigger quote to spin for Taker. Yall WWE apologists are built differently
 

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Taker is a p*ssy for bytching about labor when the issue is the CEO. He's earned the clout to speak his mind but remains Vince's lapdog. You're focusing on a small take away of a bigger quote to spin for Taker. Yall WWE apologists are built differently
Will you call The Undertaker a p*ssy to his face :ohhh:
 

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The real problem is they are not as charismatic. They don’t have the life experience to pull from to make a layered character.

most of them were nerds growing up and only was ever into wrestling. And the others were models or something. The excessive drug use and partying is not necessary but these dudes are not in the streets at all so they don’t experience life outside of wrestling
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Meh, a lot of that has more to do with wrestler being able to work 5-7 years before being on TV in a legit program and having a lot of time to develop a character. Guys like Piper or Savage that were incredible in character work from the day 1 were the exception and not the rule.

Another important factor is that in the last 15 years wrestlers put ring work as their main focus and as the main thing that would lead them to gigs and money. We can argue if the ring work nowadays is better or worse than before but that's a different discussion. The main point here is that since the 2000's we've had wrestlers leave character work at the tail end of their priorities so they don't have years of experience working on that stuff so in our view it takes them longer to get a hang of things because we literally see them progress/regress/stay the same every week on TV.

Take Daniel Bryan for example. A prodigy in the ring that was incredible from day one in 2001. It took him 4 years to be a great heel (05-06 in ROH), it took him 12 years to become a great babyface (2013 WWE) and it took him 15 years to become a great promo (2016-17' post retirement).

None of this has anything to do with drug use or backstage behavior :manny:
 
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Will you call The Undertaker a p*ssy to his face :ohhh:
What kind of question is this? No I'm just going to bytch online and hold different convinctions in real life:camby:

And be real with yourself, if I call Taker a p*ssy what do you think hes going to do? Man is going to ignore me because he's a millionaire with better shyt to do than risk his money tryna put hands on me
 

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I listened to the whole interview and there's TWO SEPARATE THINGS that he said at different points in the conversation.

one was him saying that wrestlers just want play video games and look pretty and they're soft and take shyt for granted.... that's the stupid point, cause yeah they are not necessarily softer just smarter and don't need to act like they're "tough"

second was him saying that the product is lacking an edge, which i would agree with.
 

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Y’all need to watch the actual interview to get the gist of what he was saying. He is absolutely right that there is an edge that was there before that isn’t there now.
We knew that back after Eddie died and all the JBL is Poopy cafetti from Cena.
 
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