Just Googled it, his dad is Lumbee. I learned things today.I was thinking more John Chavis the football coach, who looks black or white depending on the day and haircut.
His nickname is "Chief"
UNCP students face racist Lumbee natives at BLM march in Pembroke, NC
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I've never even heard of this tribe?!?
if they have black ancestry mixed with Indian why are they causing fukking problems...
either get on board of gtfo the way!!!
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I was thinking more John Chavis the football coach, who looks black or white depending on the day and haircut.
His nickname is "Chief"
I used to fukk his great niece...that family is super fukking racist. But oddly a lot of the women fukk with us but are still racist as shyt.
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they're pretty much "light skinned" afro-descendants (all their surnames still exist with the ADOS community that identifies as "black" but are from the same ancestral stock) who descend from some of the earliest free people of color from Virginia who come from white mothers + black fathers. And since they heavily come from FPOC going back to the 1600s, they went real
to keep distance from the later, freed slaves and avoid being grouped as "black". To further this, they played the pretendian game to get their own schools in a 3 tier caste system dynamic
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that was me lol
book came out a few weeks ago, May 2020
Aaron McDuffie Moore
An African American Physician, Educator, and Founder of Durham's Black Wall Street
Below is an old article about his family doing the research for the book .
In Search of Dr. Aaron McDuffie Moore
Eileen Welch is up-close-and-personal with the Shaw University Archives, housed on campus in the foyer of the James E. Cheek Learning Resource Center. Open to faculty, staff, students, alumni and the community for research and scholarship, the Shaw Archives holds historical, legal, fiscal and administrative records dating back to the school’s founding in 1865 as the south’s first black college.
Welch, however, is on the hunt for one name: Dr. Aaron McDuffie Moore, her maternal great-grandfather. Moore is an 1888 graduate of the second class of Shaw’s Leonard Medical School; the first African-American doctor to practice medicine in Durham, NC; founder of Lincoln Hospital and Lincoln Hospital School of Nursing; founder of the Durham Colored Library, Inc.,co-founder of N.C. Mutual Life Insurance Company, and Mechanics and Farmers Bank (now known as M&F Bank).
Stedman is related to him/from that same stock.
Alot of that same stock out there identifying as Lumbee Indians along with various other Eastern Indian identified, subgroups
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Lumber Indians?
They mixed with everything...lol.
I have like a 3rd or 4th cousin female who is Lumbee. We went to a program together growing up.
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I've never even heard of this tribe?!?
I know a few people who are from this tribe. Back in Philly I know one woman who was married to a very light skin black man. She told me that her family was very
But love the man who eventually became her husband. They have meet ups were young people meet other young people and the marriages are virtually all but arranged. They are very Latino looking in appearance with that tri-racial thing going on. Another dude I know from the Lumbee tribe that I thought was a Puerto Rican is married to a black Jamaican woman.
I’m sorry I’m not knocking the lumbee I’d be racist towards anyone that wasn’t native. Id understand that blacks were forced here but shyt it’s still our stolen land.
my exwife was native and they weren’t too keen on her marrying a black man...But they said it’s far better than her marry a guzack (white person)
my exwife was native and they weren’t too keen on her marrying a black man...But they said it’s far better than her marry a guzack (white person)
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The funny thing is that a lot of those try racial isolates in Virginia and North Carolina fit right in with Black people when they moved to New York and Philadelphia.
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The Lumbee are just as much black and white as they are native American so your point is moot.
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It gets complicated because a name like Chavis for example is an old FPOC name from way back, from the first Africans that arrived in 17th century Virginia and gained their freedom early on. Atlantic Creoles.
A lot of families like that split, some went the faux Indian route, some married white, some stayed Black. So there’s a lot of overlap with surnames between these “native“ groups and multi-generational mixed African Americans because they’re the same people.
Basically the American version of “me no Black papi”
yea, Dr Ben Chavis comes from the same stock as Lumbee identified types; he's just part of the faction that didn't take on the Lumbee identity. I posted before because it put the situation in a better context
how the ancestors to the lumbees were thinking
They (that old issue negro stock of Virginians) didn't all try to become "Indians" though, so today you have people that are related where some identify as "Lumbee Indian", "Afram and Lumbee or Black Indian" and others only as "Afram". For example
PenderROCK > 'PenderROCK'?
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even Tupac's mother had connection to the same Lumbee stock
well that sounds all well and fine but the people I know who are lumbee claim That and nothing else. Same as Chippewas and Comanches and any of the others I’ve ran across to include Alaskan natives.
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The real Natives from out West be calling Lumbees (and most eastern tribes) fake Indians. Lumbees had no native culture and started adopting traditions from Plains Indians for show and the Western Indians don't like it
