UNCP students face racist Lumbee natives at BLM march in Pembroke, NC

[im_sleep]

A bunch of self-hating quadroons

 

[Shoog Shatmi]

So.... who are the Lumbee exactly?

Whitish people with distant black ancestry who made up an "Indian" identity to avoid anti-black discrimination.

 

[get these nets]

Yea, if you’re from the area or been there quite a bit, then you’d know Lumbee’s are prejudiced as hell, and are bigots.

My grandmother lives in Lumberton, which is where quite a few Lumbees live. It’s right next to Pembroke. My aunt has worked at health centers in both Pembroke and Hope Mills. She has experienced racism from Lumbee’s while doing her job. Said a lot of the elder Lumbee’s don’t want anyone black taking care of them.

My grandmother, who went to UNCP, been telling anyone who’d listen that they don’t like black folks. She went on a tirade about them when I saw her a couple of weeks ago.

What's the backstory to this?
I've read about this particular conflict being mentioned a few times here. There are still some Native nations up around my part of the country. I've heard of personal beefs people of Black and Native backgrounds have, but not on the side vs side level that seems to come up when Lumbee comes up.

 

[invalid]

So.... who are the Lumbee exactly?

Multi-generationally mixed-race people of black and white descent with black last names masquerading as a native american tribe that historically was a way for them to escape discrimination because of their black blood.

 

[get these nets]

Multi-generationally mixed-race people of black and white descent with black last names masquerading as a native american tribe that historically was a way for them to escape discrimination because of their black blood.

Which Native Nations do they descend from?
I know that the Seminoles are a collective of AAs and Native people. Which Nation(s) does the Indian component of Lumbee come from?

Or are they false flagging?

 

[GoAggieGo.]

What's the backstory to this?
I've read about this particular conflict being mentioned a few times here. There are still some Native nations up around my part of the country. I've heard of personal beefs people of Black and Native backgrounds have, but not on the side vs side level that seems to come up when Lumbee comes up.

It’s simply them still, after all these years, trying to run away from their blackness. They know of their black ancestry, and hate it. They followed the white mans lead in hating blacks, because now and way back then, it took the attention off of them having black in them.

If you know anyone with the last name Locklear, Oxendine, or Chavis, they are more than likely Lumbee

 

[Afrodroid]

Multi-generationally mixed-race people of black and white descent with black last names masquerading as a native american tribe that historically was a way for them to escape discrimination because of their black blood.

Bunch of tragic mulattoes

 

[get these nets]

It’s simply them still, after all these years, trying to run away from their blackness. They know of their black ancestry, and hate it. They followed the white mans lead in hating blacks, because now and way back then, it took the attention off of them having black in them.

If you know anyone with the last name Locklear, Oxendine, or Chavis, they are more than likely Lumbee

thanks

But, please don't tell me that Dr. Ben Chavis is set tripping.

 

[The Solid One]

USC
Stanford

These schools are private

 

[im_sleep]

thanks

But, please don't tell me that Dr. Ben Chavis is set tripping.

It gets complicated because a name like Chavis for example is an old FPOC name from way back, from the first Africans that arrived in 17th century Virginia and gained their freedom early on. Atlantic Creoles.

A lot of families like that split, some went the faux Indian route, some married white, some stayed Black. So there’s a lot of overlap with surnames between these “native“ groups and multi-generational mixed African Americans because they’re the same people.

Basically the American version of “me no Black papi”

 

[invalid]

Which Nation(s) does the Indian component of Lumbee come from?

There could have been some Native American blood back in the 1600s through marriages to the local Indians in or around the Tidewater area and NC Coast. They claim that they are an offshoot of the Croatans. But that blood would've been phased out a long time ago. The damning evidence is that they all have the same surnames of colonial free black families. Families that were started by free black men and white women which explains why they all carry black surnames. Lumbees are just offshoots of those same families that went into hiding.

If you know anyone with the last name Locklear, Oxendine, or Chavis, they are more than likely Lumbee

Yep. I have Oxendine and Chavis in my family tree. My uncle is a Chavis from Philadelphia and he told me straight up that his old Chavises were free blacks that owned slaves down in Virginia.

Chavis comes from the Portuguese surname Chavez. And since the first Africans to arrive in the Americas were from the Kingdom of Mbundu and Ndongo of the Kongo, which had been colonized by Portugal at the time, the first black American families had Portuguese names that they anglicanized. Chavez became Chavis. Rodrigo became Driggers. Francisco became Francis. Bolin became Bowling. Domingo became Mingo.

There were still Africans that came over with their native names from the Ndongo. Kambol - which was a royal family of Ndongo became Cumbo. And those whom originated in or near Lucala and the Lucala River became Locklear.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Yes they are...but shouldn’t they be? If I was native I’d hate everyone

But WTF would you hate Black People of all mofos tho?

 

[invalid]

These schools are private

I know.

If you were to take the UNC system schools + Wake Forest + Duke, they still don't rank as high as the Cali system schools + USC + Stanford.

 

[ISO]

 

[get these nets]

It gets complicated because a name like Chavis for example is an old FPOC name from way back, from the first Africans that arrived in 17th century Virginia and gained their freedom early on. Atlantic Creoles.

A lot of families like that split, some went the faux Indian route, some married white, some stayed Black. So there’s a lot of overlap with surnames between these “native“ groups and multi-generational mixed African Americans because they’re the same people.

Basically the American version of “me no Black papi”

Thanks

I knew this was a serious story and issue when I saw your first reply in the thread. I don't recall an angry post from you about an internal Black topic ever.

Again, thanks for the education about the last name. I wasn't trivializing the issue, but Dr. Chavis is the first name I thought of when I saw OSH's post about surnames.