UNCP students face racist Lumbee natives at BLM march in Pembroke, NC

[Counter Racist Male]

I know a lumbee gentleman married to a black Jamaican woman.

 

[MoneyTron]

Thanks

I knew this was a serious story and issue when I saw your first reply in the thread. I don't recall an angry post from you about an internal Black topic ever.

Again, thanks for the education about the last name. I wasn't trivializing the issue, but Dr. Chavis is the first name I thought of when I saw OSH's post about surnames.

I was thinking more John Chavis the football coach, who looks black or white depending on the day and haircut.

His nickname is "Chief"

 

[Oatmeal]

It’s simply them still, after all these years, trying to run away from their blackness. They know of their black ancestry, and hate it. They followed the white mans lead in hating blacks, because now and way back then, it took the attention off of them having black in them.

If you know anyone with the last name Locklear, Oxendine, or Chavis, they are more than likely Lumbee

Heather Locklear

Spoiler

Her father (Kinda look like Sadam Hussein though) Also crazy is her nose used to be wide and she changed it to look narrow

Ashton Locklear the gymnast

Spoiler

Chris Chavis aka Tatanka who was supposed to be Lakota from North and South Dakota so he was double pump faking

Breh dropped knowledge, y'all better pay attention

 

[Nasty_Nate]

I was stationed at Fort Bragg for six years. A lot of Lumbees who joined the Army, and other folks from the areas near Fayetteville would go to Airborne School because they knew they had a 90% chance of get stationed near home at Bragg if they were Airborne. What trips me out is the Lumbees I’ve seen have all looked light skinned black folks, or mulattos. Kelvin Sampson, the basketball coach, is the probably the most well known Lumbee I can think of right now. One of my old Platoon Sergeants was Black, born and raised in Lumberton and grew up around them. He told me they were racist as fukk. Are they even an actual recognized tribe, or just people with mulatto roots passing as Native?

 

[Counter Racist Male]

Heather Locklear

Spoiler

Her father (Kinda look like Sadam Hussein though) Also crazy is her nose used to be wide and she changed it to look narrow

Ashton Locklear the gymnast

Spoiler

Chris Chavis aka Tatanka who was supposed to be Lakota from North and South Dakota so he was double pump faking

Breh dropped knowledge, y'all better pay attention

I heard about Heather Lockhear being part black years ago.

 

[get these nets]

There could have been some Native American blood back in the 1600s through marriages to the local Indians in or around the Tidewater area and NC Coast. They claim that they are an offshoot of the Croatans. But that blood would've been phased out a long time ago. The damning evidence is that they all have the same surnames of colonial free black families. Families that were started by free black men and white women which explains why they all carry black surnames. Lumbees are just offshoots of those same families that went into hiding.





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Thanks.
In your Powerful Black Families thread, I posted something about Dr. Aaron Moore from Durham.
The next reply came from a poster who threw shots at Lumbee (and a stray at Stedman Graham). I didn't get it at the time, but I do now.

The matriarchs of some of those families were white women? I've read about interracial unions not being rare in certain parts of that region(before there were laws banning them), but there were several of those free Black Families started by Black men and white women?

As far as clinging to non Black blood/ancestry from centuries ago.......I think you've mentioned being in circles with descendants of gens de couleur from former French colonies.
"St. Domingue did that, so hopefully the Lumbee don't have to go through that"
Interesting how there are parallel stories across the diaspora.

thanks

 

[im_sleep]

Thanks

I knew this was a serious story and issue when I saw your first reply in the thread. I don't recall an angry post from you about an internal Black topic ever.

Again, thanks for the education about the last name. I wasn't trivializing the issue, but Dr. Chavis is the first name I thought of when I saw OSH's post about surnames.

It’s all good I didn’t take it that way, I just wanted to give some context because it truly is a complicated issue.

And I feel strongly about the issue because for one, a good chunk of my family are multi-generationally mixed folks(non-FPOC) who stayed Black so there’s zero tolerance on my end for those who ran away to suck up to white supremacy.

Second I’ve mentioned this on here before but that whole “aboriginal Indian” “we ain’t no African” “moorish” etc. movement is all interconnected with this. I despise that shyt with a passion and can’t stand the way I’ve seen it grow over the years, it disrespects my ancestors in every way which is something I take very seriously.

 

[GoAggieGo.]

I was stationed at Fort Bragg for six years. A lot of Lumbees who joined the Army, and other folks from the areas near Fayetteville would go to Airborne School because they knew they had a 90% chance of get stationed near home at Bragg if they were Airborne. What trips me out is the Lumbees I’ve seen have all looked light skinned black folks, or mulattos. Kelvin Sampson, the basketball coach, is the probably the most well known Lumbee I can think of right now. One of my old Platoon Sergeants was Black, born and raised in Lumberton and grew up around them. He told me they were racist as fukk. Are they even an actual recognized tribe, or just people with mulatto roots passing as Native?

I believe they’ve finally gotten the government to recognize them as a tribe. I know they’ve been battling for a long time to get that distinction

 

[How Sway?]

Lumber Indians? I always thought they mixed with black?

they're some self hating mixed race $5 indians.

I read somewhere that the avg amount of actual indian blood in them is rather low

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Don't the other recognized tribes not fukk with the Lumbees?

 

[How Sway?]

There could have been some Native American blood back in the 1600s through marriages to the local Indians in or around the Tidewater area and NC Coast. They claim that they are an offshoot of the Croatans. But that blood would've been phased out a long time ago. The damning evidence is that they all have the same surnames of colonial free black families. Families that were started by free black men and white women which explains why they all carry black surnames. Lumbees are just offshoots of those same families that went into hiding.



Yep. I have Oxendine and Chavis in my family tree. My uncle is a Chavis from Philadelphia and he told me straight up that his old Chavises were free blacks that owned slaves down in Virginia.

Chavis comes from the Portuguese surname Chavez. And since the first Africans to arrive in the Americas were from the Kingdom of Mbundu and Ndongo of the Kongo, which had been colonized by Portugal at the time, the first black American families had Portuguese names that they anglicanized. Chavez became Chavis. Rodrigo became Driggers. Francisco became Francis. Bolin became Bowling. Domingo became Mingo.

There were still Africans that came over with their native names from the Ndongo. Kambol - which was a royal family of Ndongo became Cumbo. And those whom originated in or near Lucala and the Lucala River became Locklear.

damn

 

[NatiboyB]

But WTF would you hate Black People of all mofos tho?

You have a point there...But I do know for a fact I think I’d be calling people pale faces...I don’t think I’d be mad at blacks specifically.

 

[Black Haven]

 

[Counter Racist Male]

Don't the other recognized tribes not fukk with the Lumbees?

why do you say that?

 

[Originalman]

It’s simply them still, after all these years, trying to run away from their blackness. They know of their black ancestry, and hate it. They followed the white mans lead in hating blacks, because now and way back then, it took the attention off of them having black in them.

If you know anyone with the last name Locklear, Oxendine, or Chavis, they are more than likely Lumbee

Got damn heather locklear a tragic mulatto....