Unbaweavable: Black Man Murders Unarmed White 17 Yr Old Boy

[Suicide King]

How the cops handle the legalities of the matter, depends on the particulars of the situation. The point I am once again trying to make is defeating this GZ narrative, that he was perfectly within his rights to follow Martin without question. This is not only false, but its absurd.

It might be absurd. But the law says you can provoke someone or start a fight and you CAN still use deadly force.

Micheal Dunn shot that teenager and I doubt he gets convicted, probably why Angela Corey decided to take the case. I think there is going to be a huge spotlight on the self-defense/stand your ground laws, because at this point it is open season on unsuspecting citizens.

 

[Kuro]

How the cops handle the legalities of the matter, depends on the particulars of the situation. The point I am once again trying to make is defeating this GZ narrative, that he was perfectly within his rights to follow Martin without question. This is not only false, but its absurd.

a lot of people dont believe zimmerman grabbing his gun and following trayvon was repugnant..immoral..unreasonable..absurd..or suspicious...there really is nothing you can say to them...

 

[Beegio]

Aren't these supposed to be the young, liberal, and tolerant white boys on this site? You know, the ones that grew up in hip hop, live in a multicultural environment, and have an appreciation of black culture etc? These are the young liberal CACs that you dumb ass nikkas look to as allies.



I try to tell you nikkas about these snake in the grass ass white people. They are just as racist, deceitful, and wicked as any other white person. The difference is that I respect the open racist a lot more than these CACs that have their feelings and intentions hidden.

You have to understand that white people are liars by nature and one of the old and tired technique that the CACs uses is to draw false equivalencies. Once you peep game you realize that CACs pretty much operate from the same playbook. None of this shyt should be new or surprising.
When it comes to black people a CAC will try to convince you that left is right and up is down.

The cac false equivalency game is

The cac misdirection game is

@Shogun @Sensitive Blake Griffin

whats up?

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/a-large-number-of-whites-lack-common-sense.135485/

That indignation

Why am I tagged in this stupid ass thread? There is a reason I didn't post in here. Ya'll got trolled like a motherfukker, dude said "unbaweavable" and "zipperman". At least we got an angry racist family ram tirade.

I don't know how true this is, but from my experiences (I used to be an insanely hardcore online PC gamer, I was in a pro counter-strike league for a while) the people who make racist comments on videos or online are just little kids starving for attention. I'm not saying they aren't actually racist but I've seen it hundreds of times in my experiences being a nerdy ass PC gamer, these kids say stuff online to get a rise out of people and to try to appear like they're "cool" for being so controversial. Then you meet them in real life and they're just some pale pasty faced 15 year old nerd who wouldn't hurt a fly. Again, not saying this is always the case but it helps to keep that in mind sometimes that these are just immature individuals.

I used to troll the fukk out of people on xbox live too. I had a redneck voice I would do, I already sound country to people out-of-state but I really lay it on thick and it makes people so mad its hilarious. I also had a rapper persona that I'd use too which would bring all the racists out because they thought I was black, so I was just trolling everybody.

The point of my post was that there are a lot of people just trolling people out there. Nor can you determine that every person who posts racist shyt is white.

I didn't need to know your father's life story. I'm well aware of history.

I didn't get trolled...I wasn't addressing the OP, he's an obvious troll. I @ed you in context of what @Family Ram wrote, and comments made by you that stuck out to me in another race related thread. See, you're not trolling here, as far as I can tell, but your words describe what Family Ram was talking about. I'm past expecting white people to empathize with the plight of black people in this country. No offense, but the shoe fit though, so

 

[Brown_Pride]

How the cops handle the legalities of the matter, depends on the particulars of the situation. The point I am once again trying to make is defeating this GZ narrative, that he was perfectly within his rights to follow Martin without question. This is not only false, but its absurd.

I think the point they are making is that you can follow someone and it's not a crime. . . . Which it's not. I don't agree with that, but unless i'm mistaken technically it's not a crime. THAT is the argument i'm hearing. It's also not a crime to walk home.

I"M NOT SAYING THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED....
But....
If someone is following you, and you turn around and swing on them YOU are the attacker.

Unless i'm wrong, if so by all means let me know and i'll say I was wrong. LEGALLY wrong btw. COMMON SENSE and the LAW don't always tie out.

 

[Brown_Pride]

a lot of people dont believe zimmerman grabbing his gun and following trayvon was repugnant..immoral..unreasonable..absurd..or suspicious...there really is nothing you can say to them...

not at all i think most people agree that it was all those things. But you left out "illegal".

Is following someone illegal?

That, based on the posts I've seen, is the question and the answer to that question is....
It depends on the state you're in and how they've defined terms like "stalking" and "harassment".

 

[No_bammer_weed]

I think the point they are making is that you can follow someone and it's not a crime. . . . Which it's not. I don't agree with that, but unless i'm mistaken technically it's not a crime. THAT is the argument i'm hearing. It's also not a crime to walk home.

I"M NOT SAYING THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED....
But....
If someone is following you, and you turn around and swing on them YOU are the attacker.

Unless i'm wrong, if so by all means let me know and i'll say I was wrong. LEGALLY wrong btw. COMMON SENSE and the LAW don't always tie out.

Why do you keep talking out of both sides of your mouth.? If its perfectly legal to stalk, harass, and follow someone home, then why would cops respond to such a call if the victim of such activity called them for help?

 

[Shogun]

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/a-large-number-of-whites-lack-common-sense.135485/

That indignation

All I did was contest that all white people lack common sense. If in your eyes that makes me a racist, then so be it.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

a lot of people dont believe zimmerman grabbing his gun and following trayvon was repugnant..immoral..unreasonable..absurd..or suspicious...there really is nothing you can say to them...

exactly....its inspired from Jim Crow laws, where white citizens were within their legal rights to arm themselves and question blacks about their business. If a black citizen didnt respond with subservience and deference, the armed white in question was justified in murdering him. Thats the unwritten environment that the Zimmerman tragedy is drawing its strength from.

 

[Suicide King]

not at all i think most people agree that it was all those things. But you left out "illegal".

Is following someone illegal?

That, based on the posts I've seen, is the question and the answer to that question is....
It depends on the state you're in and how they've defined terms like "stalking" and "harassment".

Its not illegal at all. But the "act" of following someone and what happens after should be relevant. At this time the court says it is not relevant.

Also, I think you should not be able to confront someone with a gun on your waist. Boxers and karate masters are required to avoid fights. Why are gun owners starting confrontations and still can blow people's head smooth off?

 

[Brown_Pride]

Why do you keep talking out of both sides of your mouth.? If its perfectly legal to stalk, harass, and follow someone home, then why would cops respond to such a call if the victim of such activity called them for help?

1st i'm not trying to argue, really just trying to flesh out this mental process.
2nd your example doesn't really help your argument.

A cop might respond to a call to "check it out". Not all calls like this would result in an arrest, ergo it's not illegal.

Again, If you follow someone home and they call the cops and say, "he's following me" and you say, "SO, i'm just walking".

They might tell you to stop or else, but at THAT POINT, chances are they aren't gonna do shyt but take your name in case the person you were following shows up dead.

It's fuked but it is what it is.

Also, if someone calls the police saying "there's a suspicious so and so" those don't always end up in arrests either. Sometimes people are just walking and if it's on a PUBLIC STREET then they can do that. If they happen to be walking the same way you are is that "stalking" all of a sudden?

Cops try to be "pro-active" where they can, but in most cases they really respond to CRIMES ALREADY COMMITTED or in progress. They respond to suspicious calls in an attempt to thwart some things, but ultimate in a lot of those instances there really are no crimes broken.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

It might be absurd. But the law says you can provoke someone or start a fight and you CAN still use deadly force.

Not quite....but yes, Florida syg laws are certainly very liberal and supportive of those whom invoke self-defense grounds.

 

[Suicide King]

Not quite....but yes, Florida syg laws are certainly very liberal and supportive of those whom invoke self-defense grounds.

Other states say you have to be in "imminent danger", the burden to use deadly force is extremely low in Florida. All these gun nuts know this, I've heard people recite this over the years, but I thought it was all talk until July 13, 2013 .

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

I didn't get trolled...I wasn't addressing the OP, he's an obvious troll. I @ed you in context of what @Family Ram wrote, and comments made by you that stuck out to me in another race related thread. See, you're not trolling here, as far as I can tell, but your words describe what Family Ram was talking about. I'm past expecting white people to empathize with the plight of black people in this country. No offense, but the shoe fit though, so

You think I give a fukk what you think you know about me?

The cac false equivalency game is The cac misdirection game is

Caaaaaaaaaaac please.

All yall cacs will find out in due time. "Ya reign on top is short like leprechauns"

Black Excellence

Im appalled that this thread has so little discussion, but a Zimmerman troll thread goes on for pages. WAKE UP BLACK PEOPLE!!! I

Can you make a single post that doesn't have anything to do with Race? Too intellectually challenging for you? Go play somewhere you intellectual midget.

@Walt that's why I just try to stay out of this shyt, this cat takes my posts out of context from a completely different thread and says I'm just as racist as all the other evil white people.

I'm on team people. I don't care about skin color.

 

[Brown_Pride]

Its not illegal at all. But the "act" of following someone and what happens after should be relevant. At this time the court says it is not relevant.

agreed...to an extent.

The only problem i see with this is that even after something bad happens you're trying to prescribe intent to an activity that isn't necessarily accurate. In other words it's possible to have a gun and follow someone without wanting to kill them. How do you determine when "guy-with-a-gun" is following someone vs following them to kill them vs walking in the same general direction and having a fight break out and guy using the gun to kill the guy he was "following".

Also, I think you should not be able to confront someone with a gun on your waist. Boxers and karate masters are required to avoid fights. Why are gun owners starting confrontations and still can blow people's head smooth off?

I agree in some cases. But let's say i see some guys messing with my car and I have a gun. Should I A. walk out there and say "hey leave the car alone" WITH or WITHOUT my gun?

Personally I'm calling the cops, but legally you have a right to defend your property, in some cases via deadly force.

Is that wrong?

 

[Beegio]

All I did was contest that all white people lack common sense. If in your eyes that makes me a racist, then so be it.

Who said that all white people lack common sense though? Not the thread title, nor any poster in that thread up to the point where you felt the need to in the name of the white race.