Unbaweavable: Black Man Murders Unarmed White 17 Yr Old Boy

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You're a moron dude. I used to be in an improv comedy group when I was like 16, me trolling people on xbox doesn't make me a racist.

:heh: What type of shyt did you used to say as your redneck persona to get "the real racists" to go at people you identify as black on voice chat? What kind of shyt did you say in that "black guy" persona to get the "real racists" to talk shyt to black people on voice chat? :patrice:
 

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not at all i think most people agree that it was all those things. But you left out "illegal".

Is following someone illegal?

That, based on the posts I've seen, is the question and the answer to that question is....
It depends on the state you're in and how they've defined terms like "stalking" and "harassment".

i left out illegal for a reason...i was addressing the moral aspects of the incidents...to say 'most' people object to zimmerman following trayvon is false...many people [like juror b-37] feels "george" was just trying to do the right thing and dont oppose anything he did to trayvon...following someone [in this context] is harassment but may not reach the threshold of a criminal act...some who inject the legality of following do so to avoid consideration of the moral [right and wrong] dimensions of the event...
 

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:heh: What type of shyt did you used to say as your redneck persona to get "the real racists" to go at people you identify as black on voice chat? What kind of shyt did you say in that "black guy" persona to get the "real racists" to talk shyt to black people on voice chat? :patrice:
Dog, I'm not gonna break this down for you to prove anything. I used to do want to be a comedian and I would do different "characters" on xbox live to fukk with people and entertain myself when I would smoke weed and play video games, END OF fukkING STORY. I don't know why you keep projecting your racism onto me, you need help bro, racism is a very bad thing.
 

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You're a moron dude. I used to be in an improv comedy group when I was like 16, me trolling people on xbox doesn't make me a racist. I didn't pretend to be a redneck to "rile up other redneck racists", in fact it was usually white people who would get pissed at me and would talk shyt and call me a redneck. And it was a rapper persona, not a "black person" people would just think I was black. How about next time you got a problem with what I post you address it in that thread instead of being a little p*ssy and bringing me into a race bait troll thread.

You're racist bro, not me. Racists like you disgust me.

Just caught the edit.

I didn't feel like addressing your ignorance in that thread. You got called out when you got called out. :yeshrug:
The fukk I got to be scared of from a self proclaimed improv comedy roleplaying racist computer game nerd?

Your tough guy persona doesn't impress me. :comeon:
 

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Dog, I'm not gonna break this down for you to prove anything. I used to do want to be a comedian and I would do different "characters" on xbox live to fukk with people and entertain myself when I would smoke weed and play video games, END OF fukkING STORY. I don't know why you keep projecting your racism onto me, you need help bro, racism is a very bad thing.

Cause you already know what type of shyt your "persona" used to say
 

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If someone is following you, and you turn around and swing on them YOU are the attacker. :manny:

Unless i'm wrong, if so by all means let me know and i'll say I was wrong. LEGALLY wrong btw. COMMON SENSE and the LAW don't always tie out.

Proof this happened?

Because according to neighbors there was a loud argument before the gunshot. So obviously Trayvon was not a deranged wild animal who deserved to be put down like cacs want to spin it as. He was a young boy (just turned 17) who was on a snack run and some grown ass, almost 30 year old adult who is not his father decided to police a child that was innocently trying to get home to watch a basketball game.

Tell me this, would Trayvon still be alive if George Zimmerman never said a word to him?

If George Zimmerman simply "followed" Trayvon and they argued, Trayvon would be alive. Period.

Zimmerman clearly agressed the situation to the point of a physical confrontation. Why do I know this? Because (A) he profiled Trayvon as a criminal from jump and (B) HE HAD AN EQUALIZER, so he was unafraid of any physical confrontation. With THE ROUND CHAMBERED, I MIGHT ADD.

When Zimmerman left his truck, he was ready to confront, fight, and kill that boy. PERIOD. Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply lying to themselves.
 

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Just caught the edit.

I didn't feel like addressing your ignorance in that thread. You got called out when you got called out. :yeshrug:
The fukk I got to be scared of from a self proclaimed improv comedy roleplaying racist computer game nerd?

Your tough guy persona doesn't impress me. :comeon:
You caught me dude, I really fukking hate black people. I hate them so much that my best friend who I've known since I was 6 years old is black, went to a majority black elementary and middle school, I listen to hip-hop and soul music daily for hours and hours and then proceed to post on a hip-hop forum whenever I have free time, I go to hip-hop shows all the time just so I can walk around thinking about how much I hate black people, and to top it fukking off, I voted for Barack Obama for two consecutive terms just so his black ass could make a fool of himself in front of white America. Your detective skills are TOP NOTCH bro, you should really apply for a job in the FBI or something.
 

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You caught me dude, I really fukking hate black people. I hate them so much that my best friend who I've known since I was 6 years old is black, I listen to hip-hop and soul music daily for hours and hours and then proceed to post on a hip-hop forum whenever I have free time, I go to hip-hop shows all the time just so I can walk around thinking about how much I hate black people, and to top it fukking off, I voted for Barack Obama for two consecutive terms just so his black ass could make a fool of himself in front of white America. Your detective skills are TOP NOTCH bro, you should really apply for a job in the FBI or something.

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Damn breh, that's a touching story breh...I had you pegged all wrong. I didn't realize how deep you were in the struggle. On behalf of me, bytchio, you are an honorary black man.
 

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Damn breh, that's a touching story breh...I had you pegged all wrong. I didn't realize how deep you were in the struggle. On behalf of me, bytchio, you are an honorary black man.
How dare you compare me to a black person. I hate them with all my heart, I've been keeping this racism tucked up inside of me and it's time to unleash its fury upon you all.
 

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Yes you are reading the laws incorrectly...first of all GZ was guilty of (a) as legally defined:



Scaring the life out of somebody by following one as he or she walks home, certainly fits that description. I dont get it --- how would you feel if someone were clearly following you, as you walked home at night?
Gray area. Was his "legitimate purpose" there was a series of robberies in the area and as neighborhood watch captain he was watching his neighborhood? No way to tell.

For (b) and (c) he could also be held criminally liable because of one phrase in the legal wording of course of conduct:

The phase is "however short", which is open to interpretation...so in essence, when GZ followed TM for blocks and blocks, he established a patterned conduct that created a reasonable credible threat against TM's person. I agree that GZ's behavior may or may not have risen to an arrest (lets not discount race and gender as a factor), but once again to claim that GZ was acting lawfully is wrong, and kinda perverse.
I still disagree with this and as you said the law is ambiguous at best. By your reading of the law we could "however short" walking behind someone at a store because you're both going to get milk at the back of the store. Today I got off the train and had to cross the street with a group of 15 people. If ONE of them considered me a threat for whatever reason by this wording I was engaging in a course of conduct conducive with harassment. Hell even as defined in law " Constitutionally protected activity is not included within the meaning of “course of conduct.” Such constitutionally protected activity includes picketing or other organized protests." Isn't walking down the street a constitutionally protected right?
We are going by GZ's behavior on that night, and not a case where the party complaining was overreacting, or mistaken

I don't think TM overreacted, he was scared, I would be too. GZ made a serious wrong choices, none of them malicious (IMHO).

WE DO NOT KNOW what happened after fear & misguided efforts met, we do know that ultimately a child died.

Everything in between is speculation isn't it?
 

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I don't think TM overreacted, he was scared, I would be too. GZ made a serious wrong choices, none of them malicious (IMHO).

WE DO NOT KNOW what happened after fear & misguided efforts met, we do know that ultimately a child died.

Everything in between is speculation isn't it?

The neighborhood was become crime infested, and I think a lot of the residents were getting tired of all the crime.

Walk among jumpy white folks brehs.
 
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i left out illegal for a reason...i was addressing the moral aspects of the incidents...to say 'most' people object to zimmerman following trayvon is false...many people [like juror b-37] feels "george" was just trying to do the right thing and dont oppose anything he did to trayvon...following someone [in this context] is harassment but may not reach the threshold of a criminal act...some who inject the legality of following do so to avoid consideration of the moral [right and wrong] dimensions of the event...
I don't think following Trayvon was wrong...or illegal. It was a situation handled entirely incorrectly, which is why GZ should be held liable for manslaughter.

I think people are still to emotionally invested in this to look at it from a reasonable perspective.

I know most people in my neighborhood, there are black people, white people, brown people. I see who jogs daily, I know more or less what times based on when I'm outside, i make it a point to know who lives in my area so that I know when someone who isn't supposed to be there IS THERE. I call the cops at the drop of a hat. I don't follow people. If I was neighborhood captain I might follow but never get out my car. THAT, IMHO is where he fuked up.

But following TM was not wrong, GZ WAS just watching out for his home/area. IF you think calling the cops on a suspicious person YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN is wrong then yeah you probably don't agree with me. IF you do then can you agree that GZ calling the cops on TM was ok? Can you agree that as neighborhood watch trying to keep an eye on the guy was his responsibility, it's called neighborhood watch right? Not my own shyt watch?

That's where I end my support of GZ, everything following that was GZ's fault.
 

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The neighborhood was become crime infested, and I think a lot of the residents were getting tired of all the crime.

Walk among jumpy white folks breh.
Then isn't it pretty easy to see how the neighborhood watchman would want to keep an eye on the person he didn't know? I'll say again, FOLLOWING TM wasn't wrong. GZ was "doing his job" on that part. Getting out the car, and trying to play cop was GZ's bad. Had he stayed in his car the boy would most likely be alive.

But no, i don't agree that someone trying to lookout for their neighborhood by keeping an eye on someone is wrong.
 

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Proof this happened?

Because according to neighbors there was a loud argument before the gunshot. So obviously Trayvon was not a deranged wild animal who deserved to be put down like cacs want to spin it as. He was a young boy (just turned 17) who was on a snack run and some grown ass, almost 30 year old adult who is not his father decided to police a child that was innocently trying to get home to watch a basketball game.

Tell me this, would Trayvon still be alive if George Zimmerman never said a word to him?

If George Zimmerman simply "followed" Trayvon and they argued, Trayvon would be alive. Period.

Zimmerman clearly agressed the situation to the point of a physical confrontation. Why do I know this? Because (A) he profiled Trayvon as a criminal from jump and (B) HE HAD AN EQUALIZER, so he was unafraid of any physical confrontation. With THE ROUND CHAMBERED, I MIGHT ADD.

When Zimmerman left his truck, he was ready to confront, fight, and kill that boy. PERIOD. Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply lying to themselves.

that's speculative as fuk.
I was speaking in general in my scenario, you just injected your own opinion of what ACTUALLY happened that night and are now trying to pass it off as gospel.

We don't know who started the fight, who took the first swing. WE DO KNOW that GZ got out the car and provoked that argument that ultimately led to TM's death. GZ should be held accountable for that. I don't disagree with that at all. Him getting off scott free is a got damn injustice.

If you read what I've been saying i've "backed" GZ play to the point right before he got out his truck. After that he fuked up.

Again point being FOLLOWING SOMEONE is Not illegal, particularly if you're the neighborhood watch guy, it's sorta what you do.
 
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