Same thing they said to garvey, Malcolm x, black panthers, ida b wells, assata Shakur, etc, etc....
Don't know how to get in touch with him, but I would. Each one teach one is for adults too.
Rep.Take it how you want to, but I'll try and be respectful for the sake of real debate and not coli "you're a c00n/ you're an idiot" banter
You mentioned: "he laid out clearly what he is trying to do"...where? He hasn't "laid anything out". He has only said what he wants to do in a lofty manner. Let's say the breh IS a Dr. (which he isn't), why hasn't he spent 10 hours, 5 hours, 1 hour...drafting a PDF with a plan, any type of financial needs chart, executive staff members/panel etc. How come he hasn't put any of his own money up to develop a website ($2000-$5000) that has detailed charts and graphics and a digital model of how the school would look and function?
You mentioned: "why would he give out his plans to the public so white supremacists/government can put a wrench in his attempt to buy the school?" Fair enough, however, his plan is out there already. He clearly is using social media and videos saying specifically what he needs ($2 million) and what he plans to do with it (buy one of several specific schools that he's mentioned). So basically, his plan is already out there. Further, if he wanted to keep his "specific Master plan" within the community, why not give it to those who donate a specific amount? Why not offer exclusive incentives to people so they can feel on board and part of the effort. OR, is this a deflection tactic because there really is no tangible, specific, and educated plan?
You mentioned: He's building an all black boy school/university styled that is hinged on pro black empowerment...Is he really building that, or is he selling that idea. Why hasn't he started smaller? Why hasn't he built a panel of credentialed and certified black and African educators to stand with him. Why hasn't he written a book and launched a targeted media campaign to generate funds. What kind of educator calls his supporters "triflin"? What is he going to say when a child acts up or shows up with permed hair?
I am ALL for supporting our own - I myself hired a black mobile application developer when I needed one over the Indian and White ones that I interviewed mostly because the brother was skilled and told me he needed to beef up his resume because it's hard to gain traction - so miss me with the "you don't support black people" before hand. I would love to support Dr. Umar (who is misleading everyone already by using that title considering he hasn't earned a Doctoral degree on any level) IF he showed some redeeming quality. Instead the dude comes off pretentious, negative, and uses the same negative optimism tactics that so many other false prophets use.
I am also 100% ok with someone ignoring my stance and donating. To each their own. Personally, I would just need more proof before spending the money that I work hard to earn on this project. If the man says he is a Dr. but isn't, says he is all about the people yet calls the ones who can't/don't support him trifling, says he is trying to be a role model but offering to fight people outsideand says he wants you to spend your hard earned dollars but hasn't put his own money and resources up in a wise manner, it is not out of the realm of possibility that maybe...JUST MAYBE... he either isn't qualified to take on such a large project OR he is praying on people.
No just over ten. .... over ten high quality.There would be no school either. The excuse would be the government shut him down.
Scams is scams breh.
Nation of Islam got over over 10 schools.
shyt is hard to learn.
I never mentioned anything about the stripper. Whatever he wants to do with his free time so be it, try again. My concerns were purely on the merit of the business plan.
Why would I send an email to something that on the outside DOESN'T look like it's fleshed outThat's like walking in an abandoned building to see if this business is still open. Umar went out there, said what his goal is, I looked at it and poked holes in it, so it doesn't look good to me. Why would I email him?
"Man that chick is ugly to me...I better talk to her to find out more"
Dr. Umar wants to open a school. He hasn't convinced me on his phony credentials, and lack of a business plan, that he should get my money to do so. If he's convinced you or someone else...more power to you.
In regards to "companies having detailed breakdowns before people invest"... YES, they do and should! I invested in Alibaba earlier this year because of numerous news reports that detailed their growth, their plan, their profitability, BEFORE they went public. If Dr. Umar can't come up with something better than he's put out there, he doesn't deserve my money.
But, you bring up a good point. Here is Umar deflecting someone trying to get answers about his accounting
Lady: "How do people know how much money you've raised?"
Umar: "Because I tell them"
I will actually write him an email bringing up these specific points and I'll see what he says.
edit: I just emailed him...let's see if I ever hear back:
Dr. Umar,
I come to you respectfully with questions about your plan to open a school. I am a young (29...not too young) black male who is intelligent, educated, and want to support the goals you are aiming to accomplish. I have, however, seen you address criticism and I honestly doubt you will respond to this email. I would love to open a dialogue with you or someone on your staff in regards to discrepancies I've noticed with your GoFundme account, your plans, why you haven't started with a smaller school, how you plan on allocating the money you will raise, your educational background etc. I plan on doing this in a positive way and am open to hearing your truth since it directly relates to young men who look and talk how I did when I was younger. If you are at all interested in opening this dialogue, I am more than happy to beginning things however you see fit in order to more understand your journey and plan.
Respectfully,
"These dudes is politics, depositing checks,
They put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lot of lip,
And ya'll buy the shyt, caught up in the hype
cause the nygga wear a kufi, it don't mean that he bright"
What did Tariq Nasheed do wrong?
You believe in dr. Umar?This thread is a cac role call. :mjthink:
Why do cacs here protest so passionately about black people "throwing their money away" with Dr. Umar...
but those same cacs never protest about blacks throwing their money away with Gucci, Polo, ect.?
Really makes you think...:boy:
He actually believes that he's done something for black people but he's done Nothing.
bout to ride this thread til the end
this cant be real.For 250k you can get a shyt load in Mississippi. He's a phony.
No no... cult leaders provide something at least. Spiritual teaching , sometimes shelter, a mission, a community, etc....This is Cult Leader 101. Insulate your flock, make them dependent on you, denigrate outside voices as agitators/agents/etc, shame the flock when they fail to meet demands...
Thats my point. Which is why clowns and charlatans like Umar are so dangerous.
