UK Rappers Tion Wayne & Headie One Have Fight On Plane in Dubai

[GrindtooFilthy]

and those other things were also AFRICAN AMERICAN influenced.
There is no escape from it and I can show you the whole timeline of the development.
A constant cycle of "let's go back to the US and update what we already bit + add congas" or "we're continuing and updating a dead trend in the US so it's ours now"

Extremely false, people have their own native music that’s usually mixed or updated due to globalization but to say they bit Americans wholly is disingenuous and egregious

 

[King]

Dudes got that knife crime fighting stance on lock

I coulda swore breh on the left had a shiv at first

 

[NSSVO]

Headie >>>>>...

 

[Cynic]

They're making a UK version of US music, and nobody thinks "no other country" can make music, but England/Caribbean sure take a lot of influence from AFRICAN AMERICAN music (just like white americans) and try to flip it around.
The Herc myth has already been destroyed and reversed.
We already know Coxsone Dodd was biting slang.
We already know the "British Explosion" was the beatles selling repackaged black american music back to white americans.
We know "ska" and "rocksteady" are localized jamaican versions of rock and r&b.
So yes, we know that people in England and Jamaica were REMAKING MUSIC for their local tastes and they continue to do so.
There are far less ADOS "reggae" or "afrobeats" artists.
2 little islands, big influence? Or copycats moving from one area to another, continually localizing what they copy over 4 generations?

How far back do you want to go with this ? because scholars can trace our music back to African tribes.

So were blues pioneers remaking African music or worse yet by incorporating this western Germanic language were they remaking euro-music ?

Is the development of 808s and hihats remaking computer sounds ? Should the first computer engineer receive credit for trap now ?

People model success - you should be happy their grime scene is finally poppin off and those British cacs are actually f*cking with their own rappers.

They have less investment and a smaller population of black folk and live in the birth place of systemic racism.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Man them nikkas sides been murking each other for 10+ years in London. They're opps. It's Tottenham vs Woodgreen.​

But how they even get on the same plane in the first place?

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

That's 100% wrong.
Dismantle what? @tuckdog
What is "their" swag? "A uk trip"? No, that's a Kooda B/Woo dance, brother. When did Kooda go to England?
Now please, tell me what "their" swag is
OH MY GOD, IS THAT AN L BEAT?
Yes, it is.
Where's he from?
Chicago.
UK kids making a song called Chicago about nikkas listening to Chicago, 6 years ago, with a drill producer (from? Look above this sentence)
"oh but they put their own spin"
Yeah, the story of ADOS musical interaction with the Caribbean and UK.

This.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

sounds great.
Fivio is older than him and American.
The whole "UK caribbean" and the "caribbean" music scene in general has always been influenced by (and adjusts to) ADOS music trends.
There was no such thing as drill in England until Chicago did it.
There was no such thing as Garage until Larry Levan started spinning at the Paradise Garage in NYC.
Jon E Cash admits his early grime offerings were inspired by thing he heard in mid 90s Orlando hood clubs.
Most of the early UK drill producers were initially DJ L clones.
They still use Chicago slang. This whole history, including Jamaica constantly copying US music, is documented.

Not only that, but Timbaland was also very instrumental in giving UK Garage a distinct identity in its structure too.

 

[Max.]

Fight over tea brehs

 

[Dushane Hill]

You know those UK producers were Clones of Chicago producers, specifically Melo, Yamaica (not from UK) and AXL?

I don't really think anyone is trying to say UK Drill didn't come from Chicago drill - that's pretty much obvious. UK just made those kinda beats a popular sound again.

That KenBen example you posted is on like 5k views and it was released in 2016 - A1 From The 9 used that same beat and clocked about 3 million views before it was taken down by Trident. The re-upload below has 200k views.



Point I'm trying to make is the UK Drill guys/producers just took a dying Chicago sound and made it popular again while turning it into their own sound. NYC guys came along and took the UK Drill sound and made it their thing, it is what it is.

 

[HARLEM AL]

Those nikkas going to fukk around and do crazy time behind that shyt. nikkas is goofy if they fought on plane.

 

[Jblaze204]

Fif and Ja knew better not to fight on a plane. These cats can't be doing all that. Not a good look

 

[StretfordRed]

Not only that, but Timbaland was also very instrumental in giving UK Garage a distinct identity in its structure too.

Yooo I’m not even coming into this thread anymore

 

[Roid Jones]

nikkas can’t just get money without all the extra bullshyt?

It's street beef so that makes it ok

 

[Dushane Hill]

Headie is too far gone to still be hanging around with kids that beef over post codes

 

[Roid Jones]

Fighting the only other black person in a non-black area is c00n shyt. Street beef or not

But hip hop is competitive