UFC 232 - [12-29-18] - Jon Jones vs Alexander Gustafsson 2, Cris Cyborg vs Amanda Nunes

[Perfectson]

Not even worth responding to rest of what you typed.

We are talking about someone that cuts 40+lbs to make weight.

The "let it go y'all" comment seems to assume that I want Cormier to win. I picked Jones against him in both fights, and even called him finishing him in the last fight. In the Gustafsson fight that just concluded, I called the round and method of finish. Just search the thread.

I'm actually a fan of Jon Jones, but unlike the majority of people on this site I view things objectively. He simply lacks the natural weight to compete with Cormier at HW.

The truth is in the middle, while he cuts to get to LHW he's been performing there and has always had good cuts per his own mouth. Still was unable to do anything with Jon. If Jon puts on the healthy weight at HW , he has more than a good chance at beating Cormier. He would still be taller, longer, and quicker .

 

[Perfectson]

Jones vs. Light Poles
Jones vs. Pregnant women in cars and doing hit & runs on them
Jones vs. 2 Strippers in the car
Jones vs. Cocaine
Jones vs. Turinabol
Jones vs. whatever other PEDs he's using that haven't been uncovered yet

But now it's clear he's got USADA backing him so they'll keep any and all other "adverse findings" tightly under wraps

They still haven't found the mother agent - there's could be many reasons that could explain his test results, the fact is he did a lot of time and they have never found any actual sign that he was juicing for an dvantage

 

[puppetmaster]

Damn.... Dana said he not gonna run the Cyborg v Nunez back....

Damn cats was right.... he really must low key hate her.... he dont even sound like he knows what he wanna do with that division

Martha

Her contract expires in March too.

Might have been the last time we see her in the UFC given how Dana gets if you’re on his bad side or if you’re associated with someone on it (Tito)

 

[sportscribe]

Might be right , but if cormier can't bear Jon at light, and Jon moves up and properly trains at HW...why wouldn't it be the same outcomes. I know theres differences but if Cormier csnt take Jon down at LHW , how would he suddenly take him down at hW

Because Cormier is a natural heavyweight at 240 lbs. The fact that Jon Jones would be at a 20+ lbs disadvantage against him and also the fact that Cormier is able to take down guys that have to CUT to make heavyweight. Cormier at HW is an entirely different prospect because he doesn't have to drop 40 lbs to compete. Oh, and also the fact that Jon has said he doesn't want smoke with Cormier at HW.

 

[Roid Jones]

@THEREALBRAND she gon get em next time like she said today wasn’t her day

Classy and a true warrior

 

[Roid Jones]

It's interesting that Jones has never shown any interest in going to heavyweight, unlike some posters he seems to understand how big of a jump it is and that he might lose something.

 

[Perfectson]

Because Cormier is a natural heavyweight at 240 lbs. The fact that Jon Jones would be at a 20+ lbs disadvantage against him and also the fact that Cormier is able to take down guys that have to CUT to make heavyweight at HW. Cormier at HW is an entirely different prospect because he doesn't have to drop 40 lbs to compete. Oh, and also the fact that Jon has said he doesn't want smoke with Cormier at HW.

I believe Cormier is always about 30-40 lbs heavier than Jon Jones. You can look it up DC has stated he only weighs 205 in weigh in and has gone up 20-30 lbs after that . So that means Jon basically has fought DC at an heavier weight and defeated him . Now if you make a point that DC cutting weight and rehydrating is what causes him not be outperformed by Jon Jones then I'm happy to take that as an argument.

 

[newarkhiphop]

Maybe cyborg threw the fight. She older and tossed the throne to a fellow brazilian

Crosses my mind sets up a huge payday for the rematch but fuk that's a rough way to throw a fight

 

[sportscribe]

I believe Cormier is always about 30-40 lbs heavier than Jon Jones. You can look it up DC has stated he only weighs 205 in weigh in and has gone up 20-30 lbs after that . So that means Jon basically has fought DC at an heavier weight and defeated him . Now if you make a point that DC cutting weight and rehydrating is what causes him not be outperformed by Jon Jones then I'm happy to take that as an argument.

He is not "30-40 lbs heavier" on fight night. This would assume Jon Jones doesn't reyhdrate as well.

Not withstanding, training to make weight at 205 is different from training at your natural weight, where you don't have to make cuts, particularly for a guy that has to cut 40 lbs! A lot of the weight Cormier is putting back on is water weight.

 

[No Ma’am]

JBJ Vs. DC III on some Street Fighter shyt

 

[Perfectson]

He is not "30-40 lbs heavier" on fight night. This would assume Jon Jones doesn't reyhdrate as well.

Not withstanding, training to make weight at 205 is different from training at your natural weight, where you don't have to make cuts, particularly for a guy that has to cut 40 lbs! A lot of the weight Cormier is putting back on is water weight.

in the tweet it's mentioned DC was 40 lbs over, so 245. Jon maybe rehydrates 10 (if that since 205 is around his natural weight)...that's 30 lbs . For all intent purposes, DC trains close to his natural weight and then makes a tremendous cut during the weigh in week, so again unless you're saying his cut impacted him severely enough then Jon Jones has beaten a DC at a heavy weight level who trained as a heavy weight.

And I'm more than happy to accept that arguement but not the argument that JJ hasn't fought a heavy weight DC who trained as a heavy weight because he's technically has done both and won. I will contend that without worrying about the weight cut that maybe DC would focus more on strength than conditioning but I would see that as a negative in a fight with Jones.

As mentioned JJ shouldn't move to heavy weight because once you go it doesn't make sense to come back down

 

[Duke_Droese]

nunez is the baddest bull dyke on the planet, so she probably has her pick of dime piece baby dykes.

but then how does she end up with that gremlin looking thing

 

[THEREALBRAND]

@THEREALBRAND she gon get em next time like she said today wasn’t her day

I’m out of town, so I missed all the fights.

I’m shocked right now, this isn’t the news I wanted to wake up to :arsenaltears:

 

[Bleed The Freak]

One of Floyd’s biggest rules .

He said it takes one punch don’t ever think you can’t get your shyt rocked .

He said he respected everyone he fought .

At the end of the day that's a professional in the ring with you.

And Cyborg ego and aggression tool over after she got dropped the first time.

She should have composed herself, assessed how Amanda could hurt her and clinched or took it to the ground and made it a technical match.

 

[etrofllenrod504]

Dude is a wizard on the ground. Went far on TUF. Hes feared for his 50/50 leg locks. Has a video beating someone up in a restaurant. Some drunk guy attacking him. I knew bj was gonna lose on the ground. The kid is like a new damian maia.

He use to come and train at out our gym slot here in New Orleans. Hes s absolute animal on the ground, alot of our leg lock games are based around his system. Hes a true representation of where the Bjj game is today. Alot of MMA guys still on that Gracie style of things. But in the Bjj world especially sub only this is the game.