Tyrese and The Rock beefing again: Tyrese sends shots

[Big Boss]

You are presenting this without the overall context tho.

ALL of last year, everyone was talking about Rock and Vin Diesel beefing and ALL of the cast was taking Vin's side over The Rock's. You don't think that came off as disloyal to The Rock? The fact that his "family" were publically taking his opposition's side and making him the odd man out? Keep in mind, they might be "family" but there is clearly a hierarchy. Vin Diesel holds the most weight and gets the most money and he ain't sharing that wealth with his "family". So why should Rock do the same when his peers aren't doing it?

That whole Vin/Rock beef was writing on the wall of how this was gonna breakdown. If your "family" isn't gonna look out for you, you gotta do what's best for you.

Facts

 

[David_TheMan]

You are presenting this without the overall context tho.

ALL of last year, everyone was talking about Rock and Vin Diesel beefing and ALL of the cast was taking Vin's side over The Rock's. You don't think that came off as disloyal to The Rock? The fact that his "family" were publically taking his opposition's side and making him the odd man out? Keep in mind, they might be "family" but there is clearly a hierarchy. Vin Diesel holds the most weight and gets the most money and he ain't sharing that wealth with his "family". So why should Rock do the same when his peers aren't doing it?

That whole Vin/Rock beef was writing on the wall of how this was gonna breakdown. If your "family" isn't gonna look out for you, you gotta do what's best for you.

Rock aint a team player he is management's guy, it is what it is.

Critics don't always get it right. It's not award winning television but it's entertaining. If it was trash HBO wouldn't let it get to season 3.
As another breh said, Entourage says hello.

You're operating under the assumption that a franchise in its dusk and a spinoff can't coexist. And if collective bargaining is the core of this franchise then there's wild hypocrisy as Vin Diesel is surely getting a bigger/two check(s) than everyone else.

And the end of the day this is Tyrese being Tyrese and if he hadn't said anything this talk about the morality of a business opportunity wouldn't even be had right now.

They literally went behind Diesel's back to film Rock and Statham scenes. Think about that shyt, they taking money from the movie to do shyt behind the main cast and one of the producers back. There will be no co-existion with Universal and this spinoff if it is a success.

Vin is a producer, but if all the other people are rallying around Vin and are cool with him what is the issue if they are good with the deal?

Where was it stated that the collectively bargain? Reports of the simpsons cast do it. But I nvr heard nething about ff cast doing it. Are you making this up?

Also if you were talking about ty or vin doing this your analogy would work. As it stands currently management brought in two new guys into the fold to see how they meshed productivity wise with old team. Since the new guys did well management are letting them head another department while still keeping old team.

The whole thing Tyrese is saying and what Vin has said seems to hint that they negotiate as a unit. That is the family shyt they keep talking about.

 

[Bruce LeRoy]

You are presenting this without the overall context tho.

ALL of last year, everyone was talking about Rock and Vin Diesel beefing and ALL of the cast was taking Vin's side over The Rock's. You don't think that came off as disloyal to The Rock? The fact that his "family" were publically taking his opposition's side and making him the odd man out? Keep in mind, they might be "family" but there is clearly a hierarchy. Vin Diesel holds the most weight and gets the most money and he ain't sharing that wealth with his "family". So why should Rock do the same when his peers aren't doing it?

That whole Vin/Rock beef was writing on the wall of how this was gonna breakdown. If your "family" isn't gonna look out for you, you gotta do what's best for you.

The Rock's movie career is what Vin's was supposed to be in the early 00's after the first FF and XXX movies....The Rock basically took his spot starting with The Rundown.

Aside from that look at their performances... The Rock has all types of energy while Vin looks bored in everything he's done since the FF revival.. even the way says his lines is lazy...

 

[MalikX]

Never knew there were so many Rock dikkriders on the Coli

You muthafukkers we're definitely NOT watching Doom and Faster back in the day. Like a thot, y'all dikkriding asses started dikkriding in the last 2-3 years. The same time FF gave him the stimulus package he couldn't accomplish on his own for a decade. nikkas dikkriding so hard they okay with Rock trying to write OG characters outta the series they made which is why Vin and the rest were beefing with that dummy last year What series y'all gonna let The Rock steal next? Bad Boys? Mission Impossible? Guardians of the Galaxy? Suicide Squad? FOH.

 

[Rell Lauren]

Pockets is empty cuz.

 

[Shadow King]

Rock aint a team player he is management's guy, it is what it is.


They literally went behind Diesel's back to film Rock and Statham scenes. Think about that shyt, they taking money from the movie to do shyt behind the main cast and one of the producers back. There will be no co-existion with Universal and this spinoff if it is a success.

Vin is a producer, but if all the other people are rallying around Vin and are cool with him what is the issue if they are good with the deal?



The whole thing Tyrese is saying and what Vin has said seems to hint that they negotiate as a unit. That is the family shyt they keep talking about.

Are you talking about scenes for F8 or scenes for this supposed spinoff? If the former, I'm sure that has to do with the falling out Vin and Rock had last year. If the latter, Vin cannot stop Universal from green lighting a film. If the Hobbs movie is a success, there won't have to be any worries about chemistry or on-set morale because Rock likely won't return for F9/10, if the movie even comes out during the lifespan of the FF series. And the F9/10 film will still make 750M+ at worst even if Rock isn't in it.

Universal is a business entity they're aren't gonna see the Hobbs movie do half a billion and scrap F10. The only way the spinoff "hurts" the OG series is if the put it out in May and the FF film in August or some shyt which wouldn't happen.

Rest of that stuff is just speculation. The cast is probably very close and Vin might make sure nobody gets shafted but if you think Universal is saying, "Alright everybody gets 10 million a film because you walked in the office together" you're being wishful.

 

[IrateMastermind]

Lets role play
Cast
Management
10 man team - co workers

Co-workers : hey man we try to collectively bargin. Management always tries to play us against each other or get us to negotiate seperately. We have found the best way is to present ourselves as a unified front, not let them seperate us, overall it works out for us individually and as a whole better because it makes all of us less expendable. Hope you remember this is they come to you.

Management: hey man we think you are the real star of this situation. The others just holding you back, man we got a contractor we want to bring in full time and we gonna give you a pay increase and make you the real star you deserve to be. Trust me man, we will do you right.

You: Sure thing boss, you can count on me boss fukk everyone else, I mean you would never do to me what you are doing to them.

This is what you are condoning.

Not my exact words but deal.

This ain't sports and I don't follow the FF franchise outside the theater but I doubt the stars in the franchise are taking less to redistribute funds to the supporting cast.

Notice Luda flexed in his reply to the rock. He ain't mad at it.

When'd it get cool to expect another man to let you spend his money

 

[Dreamzeedream]

Really? Link?

http://www.therichest.com/sports/wrestling/10-wwe-wrestlers-who-legitimately-hated-shawn-michaels/

 

[TNC]

The Rock's movie career is what Vin's was supposed to be in the early 00's after the first FF and XXX movies....The Rock basically took his spot starting with The Rundown.

Aside from that look at their performances... The Rock has all types of energy while Vin looks bored in everything he's done since the FF revival.. even the way says his lines is lazy...

I don't disagree with you.

But that is probably why Rock has risen to heights that Vin Diesel hasn't seen in their respective careers. Rock is actually hungry and wanting to put himself out there, Vin seems more into staying in his lane and being reserved. Neither method is wrong, but Rock's path definitely tends to lead to more success than Vin's.

Now with all this, I don't know if there is jealousy or hatred between the two, but if they really don't fukk with each other, it'd be better for BOTH if Rock moved on to his own franchise so they both don't have to deal with each other.

 

[MalikX]

You are presenting this without the overall context tho.

ALL of last year, everyone was talking about Rock and Vin Diesel beefing and ALL of the cast was taking Vin's side over The Rock's. You don't think that came off as disloyal to The Rock? The fact that his "family" were publically taking his opposition's side and making him the odd man out? Keep in mind, they might be "family" but there is clearly a hierarchy. Vin Diesel holds the most weight and gets the most money and he ain't sharing that wealth with his "family". So why should Rock do the same when his peers aren't doing it?

That whole Vin/Rock beef was writing on the wall of how this was gonna breakdown. If your "family" isn't gonna look out for you, you gotta do what's best for you.

nikka....why would any of them be loyal to the Rock over Vin? Do you even understand what you're writing? FF is Vin/Paul Walker's shyt......point blank.

Or is that lost on you?

They were doing those films back when the Rock was fighting Steve Austin.

The fact he thinks he can come into a series another actor is the producer of and has been involved with since 2001.....a good ten years before the Rock came in the picture......but expect to have more say so or more creative control or more loyalty from the group than they show to Vin shows how outta pocket he is. FOH with that.

 

[David_TheMan]

Are you talking about scenes for F8 or scenes for this supposed spinoff? If the former, I'm sure that has to do with the falling out Vin and Rock had last year. If the latter, Vin cannot stop Universal from green lighting a film. If the Hobbs movie is a success, there won't have to be any worries about chemistry or on-set morale because Rock likely won't return for F9/10, if the movie even comes out during the lifespan of the FF series. And the F9/10 film will still make 750M+ at worst even if Rock isn't in it.

Universal is a business entity they're aren't gonna see the Hobbs movie do half a billion and scrap F10. The only way the spinoff "hurts" the OG series is if the put it out in May and the FF film in August or some shyt which wouldn't happen.

Rest of that stuff is just speculation. The cast is probably very close and Vin might make sure nobody gets shafted but if you think Universal is saying, "Alright everybody gets 10 million a film because you walked in the office together" you're being wishful.

Yeah I'm talking about the scenes they shot behind the producers back for F8 a few million they said it cost, money that could have went to the actual film.

Hey look I don't trust Universal or hollywood, if they can break up a unit for some change they will and Rock is the perfect guy to do it. He is a company man.

Not my exact words but deal.

This ain't sports and I don't follow the FF franchise outside the theater but I doubt the stars in the franchise are taking less to redistribute funds to the supporting cast.

Notice Luda flexed in his reply to the rock. He ain't mad at it.

When'd it get cool to expect another man to let you spend his money

Hey no problem we just have different views on life and doing business.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Never knew there were so many Rock dikkriders on the Coli

You muthafukkers we're definitely NOT watching Doom and Faster back in the day. Like a thot, y'all dikkriding asses started dikkriding in the last 2-3 years. The same time FF gave him the stimulus package he couldn't accomplish on his own for a decade. nikkas dikkriding so hard they okay with Rock trying to write OG characters outta the series they made which is why Vin and the rest were beefing with that dummy last year What series y'all gonna let The Rock steal next? Bad Boys? Mission Impossible? Guardians of the Galaxy? Suicide Squad? FOH.

He not stealing the series. It's a spinoff while the main franchise still goes on. Rock is a bigger star and has a better box office track record than vin diesel w/o the furious and gotg franchise.

 

[TNC]

Where is Luda's comments on the Rock situation?

 

[Shadow King]

Yeah I'm talking about the scenes they shot behind the producers back for F8 a few million they said it cost, money that could have went to the actual film.

Hey look I don't trust Universal or hollywood, if they can break up a unit for some change they will and Rock is the perfect guy to do it. He is a company man.


Hey no problem we just have different views on life and doing business.

If the whole speculated "unit" was all siding with Vin last year then wouldn't the odd man getting his own movie/possible sequel to not come back mean nothing to them? they can go on being the OG "family"

The Rock doing a spinoff doesn't destroy the last 2 FF films in (arguably) quality nor profitability I'm struggling to see how this endangers FF

 

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I kind of get it. Some new guy comes in and gets his own series based off your many years of work and effort. You'd be lying or a straight up fool if you said that wouldn't piss you off.

It's that simple especially in Tyrese case if that heart to heart was that the Rock said he wouldn't do it the spinoff. If the Rock said he wouldn't do it and did snake shyt! If in that heart to heart he didn't mention it, it's fair game.

Anyone who does business and does business deals knows the only currency you have in business is trust.