Two men fatally shot outside their East Flatbush home (NSFW)(Update: Cops kill the killer)

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How is this not self defense when dude pulled up with what’s considered a potentially lethal weapon (yes, you can kill someone with scissors)?

All guns are still illegal in NYC right?
Because after he incapicatied his threat he casually walked to his body and put another bullet is his dome.
Executions aren't self defense. Maybe if he didn't finish them off he'd have an argument. but in a self defense shooting you are generally expected to render aid to the person you shoot. Not finish them off
 

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Im in the Minority on this. You pull a weapon aka Scissors out on someone and to their neck all bets are off. And the way he pulled did what he did this isnt his first time.
Not when someone walks away. It doesn't work that way. Yes he pulled scissors but dude had distance from him. He had distance before dude pulled the gun. Self defense absolutely does not apply here.
 

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Article from yahoo

Father, stepson shot dead by neighbor over noise in Brooklyn apartment building​


A Brooklyn bodybuilder and his stepson were shot dead in the hallway outside their apartment in an ongoing dispute with their angry downstairs neighbor who stormed their home to complain about the noise, police said Monday.

The furious resident of the Flatbush Gardens Complex in East Flatbush shot the 47-year-old dad, Bladimy Mathurin, and the victim’s 27-year-old stepson, Chin Wai Mode, in the fourth-floor hallway outside their apartment around 10:30 p.m. Sunday, cops said.

“That guy killed my son, my husband,” Marie Luc Delille, 48, said from her apartment, where blood was still pooled outside the door. “That guy terrified my family. The only family I have, my husband and my children. I have nobody else.”

Delille’s young daughter witnessed the horror.

“My daughter needs therapy,” she said. “That happened in front of her.”

Cops recovered surveillance footage that shows the gunman, who resides on the third floor of the apartment complex on Brooklyn Ave., storm upstairs to confront his neighbors for making a racket, according to a police source.

An argument ensued between the victims and their disgruntled neighbor that spilled into the hallway, cops said. At one point, Mathurin retreated back into his home, only to emerge a short time later wielding scissors, according to police.

That’s when the gunman drew a weapon and unleashed a barrage of gunfire, striking both men in the head and back, cops said.

Delille said the dispute started with the downstairs neighbor banging on the ceiling before coming upstairs to confront them.

“When he banged, my husband banged back,” Delille said. “Then he feels so upset, he comes and kicks the door. My husband goes outside. That’s when he just grab his gun and blew my husband and blew my son.”

Before the shots were fired, Delille said she tried to intercede.

“I went outside,” she recounted. “I tell my husband, ‘Leave him alone. Come. Come. Get inside.’ I could hear a voice telling me, get inside. When I was turning my back, he shot my husband. I didn’t know of my son. I thought my son was inside. My husband went out first. Had an argument with him. That’s when my son went out.”

Delille said they had had run-ins with the man before. She said the neighbor was prejudiced against her family because they are Haitian.

“Haitian. Look what you did to your country,” she says the shooter said to her previously. “I be like, ‘Yeah. Haitian people give you freedom. Haitian people give Black people freedom.'”

After the shooting, the gunman took an elevator down to the lobby and fled the building heading east towards Brooklyn Ave., cops said.

Investigators recovered nine .45-caliber shell casings and five bullet fragments from the scene.

Police described the shooter as a dark-skinned bald man wearing a blue jacket and tan boots.

Mathurin was the father of Delille’s three younger children. They had been married for 19 years. Her bodybuilding husband drove a school bus and was an Uber driver.

“I don’t know if I’m going to survive,” she said. “I don’t feel safe. I need safety. I need safety. I was planning to move.”

Delille said her son was loving and outgoing.

“He respects people,” she said. “Everybody. He would hug you. Yesterday, I tell him, ‘Chin Wai, can you make me a soup?’”

Neighbors and relatives walked past the blood to comfort Delille and her family. Among the mourners was Mode’s biological father, Mike Felix.

He’s a boy who never have problems,” Felix said. “He’s a good boy. He’s not a trouble-maker. He stays in the house. His mother keeps him here. He goes to school. He comes back home.”

Mode’s 10-year-old sister, Nhayalla Lister, said she saw her father and her brother’s final moments.

“The guy downstairs keep banging every time we make noise and my dad banged back,” she said. “And then the guy came upstairs and kicked our door and then my dad came out. He confronted him. The guy had a gun and shot my brother and my dad.”

“I was inside the house when I heard the ‘pow pow,’ the gunshots,” the girl said. “And then when it stopped I looked outside and I saw my dad on the floor. I was considering where’s my brother and I looked farther and he was by the staircase.”

The 59-unit privately-owned complex, built in the late 40s, was formerly known as the Vanderveer Estates. It was the childhood home of Barbra Streisand. It has been beset by crime and deteriorating conditions in subsequent decades and was renamed more than a decade ago.

It’s also where actor Michael K. Williams grew up. Williams, who rose to fame as Omar Little, the shotgun-wielding stickup man on “The Wire,” died of a fentanyl overdose in 2021.
 

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Dude ran out pump faking, wife knew he wasn't built like that.
:francis:Shooter was gone knock them off regardless.
 

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Sad shyt. Prayers for that family

Gunman looks trained. Had a laser or someshyt on it.

Hope he burns in hell. fukk the law aspect of self defense. You p*ssy for not squaring up but instead quick to pull a trigger.
 

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Delille said they had had run-ins with the man before. She said the neighbor was prejudiced against her family because they are Haitian.

“Haitian. Look what you did to your country,” she says the shooter said to her previously. “I be like, ‘Yeah. Haitian people give you freedom. Haitian people give Black people freedom.'”
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OP missed a gold mine cause if this was in the OG thread.:picard:
 

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Surprised the coli aint cover the stepfather angle yet. Wasn't even his kids he died for. terrible.

But this is why I dont even argue or go back and forth with people anymore. Just not worth it. Dude was gassed up and wild coming at dude with the scissors but the wife distracted him and made him take his focus off dude that was threat. No way he gets that gun out in close quarters without a struggle. She should have been in the house the whole time. Not sure why anyone is arguing casually with a dude that just tried kicking your door in. The time for talking is over at that point. Dude should be doing life for the murders though.
 

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Saw this on the NYSOM Subreddit last night…
Brehs really need to practice their conflict resolution skills cause this shyt was insane.:francis:
First of all dude that left his house has 0 self-awareness. You leave your house huffing and puffing and putting a pair of scissors to someone’s face and don’t even realize that the other dude is unusually calm and relaxed. Clear sign that he’s holding a gun.:francis:
Now this other dude is the perfect example of a mentally unstable person holding a gun. Dude straight up executed that man and his son. Looks like the son started panicking and ran away out of fear and this coward just starts dumping bullets off into him. New York is gonna bury this coward under the jail and rightfully so!:mindblown: These are old head brehs moving like young crash dummies.:what:

This starting over a noise complaint really hits home too. I have a dumb bytch that lives under the floor below me and I can be laying on my bed and hear every word of whatever song she’s playing. I get the urge to want to go downstairs and spaz out but that’s some emotional shyt. This is why living in NY is so frustrating. I can’t stand the apartment living and really want to buy a house for myself and not deal with other people but the prices here and ridiculous. Definitely contemplating moving back down South.:francis:
apartments exist in all ghettos
 
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