No they arent.i take it you didnt read the actual article and not to knock you off your soapbox but AAs arent begging to being tech they actually are begging us to go into the field.
No they arent.i take it you didnt read the actual article and not to knock you off your soapbox but AAs arent begging to being tech they actually are begging us to go into the field.
There's no need to be mad...lol. I honestly didnt even know about this until this thread.Geez Louise it's call Tributaree ! Are you even Black?
White people dont understand diversity because they interact with other white people the majority of the time....some of them have never even interacted with a person of color in their lives. Cause they live in areas where they dont have to.There are qualified Black men and women in the tech industry with degrees in engineering and computer science.
These companies ARE NOT hiring Black people. They hardly even interview Black people.
They don't care.
Facebook only hired seven black people in latest diversity count
- Company’s annual diversity report shows majority of staff still white
- Sixty-eight percent of employees are male – a 1% decrease
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg ponders the meaning of diversity. Photograph: Jose Miguel Gomez/Reuters
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Facebook is still dominated by white men despite Mark Zuckerberg’s repeated promise to get serious about building a workforce that better reflects the diversity of its 1.4 billion global users.
In its diversity report released on Thursday the social network company revealed that more than half of its US staff are white, with the proportion dropping slightly from 57% to 55%. The proportion of Asian employees increased by 2% to 36%, but the shares of hispanic and black people or those of “two or more races” remained flat at 4%, 2% and 3% respectively.
That just tells me they dont want to deal with blacks or hispanics period.Even though I'd like to see more blacks going into CS and engineering programs, that's another topic and we definitely shouldn't be letting these companies off the hook for their lack of diversity either
Check this out for example: Silicon Valley struggles to hack its diversity problem
So even when accounting for the relative dearth of black CS grads, the biggest tech companies are still overlooking them. That's the sort of thing that should be called out. And there's all sorts of possible reasons I can think of for those disparity, such as where these companies focus their recruiting efforts at, or biases in hiring
And then there's this tidbit:
IMO, this is even more damning because while you can argue about whether there's a pipeline problem with blacks and technical jobs, could you really make that same argument about the non-technical jobs at Twitter?
Sad but true.
I realized thjs first hand opening up my first business this year and running my first shop in manhattan.
I didnt let it get to me though. But it did educate me on some harsh truths about being a black man in business.
I have all sorts of stories to tell from running my pop-up shop.Never heard that term until I was on here.
Good stuff persisting despite setbacks and realities in life. Sad that some black people won't even go to a black doctor. My grandmother used to be one of those types.
Not all of us can be in Atlanta to get a job. I had to move to Texas for my job after layoffs in Atlanta
Black people en masse qualified for and applying for these jobs.
There are qualified Black men and women in the tech industry with degrees in engineering and computer science.
These companies ARE NOT hiring Black people. They hardly even interview Black people.
They don't care.
Facebook only hired seven black people in latest diversity count
- Company’s annual diversity report shows majority of staff still white
- Sixty-eight percent of employees are male – a 1% decrease
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg ponders the meaning of diversity. Photograph: Jose Miguel Gomez/Reuters
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Facebook is still dominated by white men despite Mark Zuckerberg’s repeated promise to get serious about building a workforce that better reflects the diversity of its 1.4 billion global users.
In its diversity report released on Thursday the social network company revealed that more than half of its US staff are white, with the proportion dropping slightly from 57% to 55%. The proportion of Asian employees increased by 2% to 36%, but the shares of hispanic and black people or those of “two or more races” remained flat at 4%, 2% and 3% respectively.
I'm torn on this issue, especially as an engineering student myself.
On one hand, this extreme focus on "diversity" for diversity sake is not something I care to participate in. Yes I'm black and I understand there are barriers in place for black folks. However, on the other hand, I do not want to be a hire who was hired to simply "diversify" a workforce. Its insulting to my intelligence and my skills. I still value my skills and abilities and if I'm not hired for that and my ability to project my competence in the interview, then don't hire me. I've been on interviews for internships for example where some of them I know I bombed and if they had called me back and offered me a job I would be shocked lol. I want to know when I get a job it was because we saw what you can do and want you to contribute to our success otherwise I won't feel too good about it.
So when I see articles that say "there is only x% amount of blacks working in a field so hire more blacks" it annoys me to be honest. I don't care strictly numerically speaking how many blacks are in a company. This is shytty stats reporting. A much more descriptive stat of possible discrimination would be "How many blacks interviewees vs hires are there" and the percent discrepancy between that set of data and other groups using the same measurement. Spatial_Paradox posted much more substantive and interesting stats related to graduates and hiring. However, again, the issue is the reporting is still sketchy when relating this to specific companies (i.e. facebook, twitters,etc) hiring of blacks as it doesn't say how many of these people who are graduating are applying to places like Facebook, twitter, etc. I know a lot of big silicon valley folks for example usually hired from the much more "respected schools". The implication here isn't that blacks are less likely to go to "respected schools" as I'm just criticizing the reporting in that just comparing NATIONAL graduation rates to hiring stats at a company is too broad. I think breaking the data down further by graduates at specifics schools and how many are interviewing at these companies and then doing a race comparison would be a better way to report. Just a small anecdote, I go to a local state school in the south and while I'm not counting myself out as being able to work at Twitter, Facebook, etc, I've also self-selected myself out applying to those places for internships and co-ops...which isn't a good thing but there are probably people like me out there.
If you get laid off in IT and can't easily find another job you're resume must be garbage breh
Yep I'm not ignorant of the ever present "work two times as hard for half the recognition" environment for blacks in the workplace and elsewhere. Also if I felt without a doubt I earned my way in the door and someone wants to still say something about it fukk them. I wasn't really talking about other people's expectations but my own personal expectations. It makes me feel a certain way because I want to feel good about all my accomplishments, especially those I work my ass off to get so I don't want to be "given" something for lack of better words for something other than my skillset that I worked my ass off to attain. Otherwise what is the purpose of years of self-improvement and hardwork?Great points. But I want to let you know as a black professional especially in engineering these jokers gonna always think you were just given a job. You can't be worried about that mess. You take the job and you perform. Most blacks in corporate America have to work twice as hard when compared to their white coworkers because you are held to a higher standard.
You can fukk up and these jokers won't hire another black from your school (if it is small). You can do a poor job and they won't hire another black in your position. So you always and I mean always have to show and prove and basically do your best for blacks coming after you.
Also as far as the bombing interviews we all been there. But at the end of the day these interviews is all about selling yourself and shooting the bull with these folks.