Tumblin 'erb: Why is J Cole So mediocre...PRECISELY lays out Cole's flaws

[RTF]

Cuz we're tired of the BS

We're tired of people claimin he's some great rapper

We're tired of people goin around claimin his win is sales symbolizes that "good hip hop" is winning now

Because we feel Cole is trash

We feel Cole brings nothing to the table

We feel Cole is mediocre

So we're gonna express these statements in a sea of mufckaz claiming he's something he's not

Yep. He's just not that nice to us. He aight.

 

[Enchanted]

I dislike that people who don't like Cole can't just not like him and leave it at that. They have to try and get everyone who does like him to hate him too. For what? If I dont like someone/something I don't talk about it every fukkin day. I swear Cole has to be the most discussed artist of this generation and its mostly by people who dont fukk with him.

Also, to say that Cole of all people only talks about himself is fukking ridiculous. All the songs with verses from different perspectives suddenly fly out the window.

 

[Mike Otherz]

i do like that power trip song though.

 

[RTF]

But a lot of Cole fans bring in extra ish. "Real hip-hop is back" "real lyricism is back".

I don't see hwo a seasoned rap fan can sit back and love dudes music. Derivative.

 

[blvckbieber]

He says Cole dont rap about others? Cant create characters? Relay others feelings? What about these tracks

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofXKwpiVqc4[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6WThN_5GQs[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYs5QkAbEUQ[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX8IOdi0Gl8[/ame]



I could go on too.

Secondly, since when does being a mainly introspective rapper make you a lesser lyricist? Isnt being able to bring ppl inside your mind and give them a tour of your soul a highly valuable skill?

Undermining a great album like Born Sinner on the basis that it doesn't meet your senseless and single arbitrary criterion for what "real lyricism" is is stupid. This *** jus sounds like an old *** new skool rappers hater to me.

Lol at bashing this guy for being self-absorbed:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQTOu3_E3FU[/ame]

And then recognizing Jay-Z as one of the GOATs(rightfully so) at the same time... contradictory much?

 

[A.R.$]

Cuz we're tired of the BS

We're tired of people claimin he's some great rapper

We're tired of people goin around claimin his win is sales symbolizes that "good hip hop" is winning now

Because we feel Cole is trash

We feel Cole brings nothing to the table

We feel Cole is mediocre

So we're gonna express these statements in a sea of mufckaz claiming he's something he's not

Everything you just said sounds like hate to me. Breh their is a lot of rappers I don't like that people say are nice. I just don't listen to their music. I'm a cole fan and I never said he was the best rapper or nothing like that. I just say I like his music. And the reason cole fans bring up sales is because the haters said he wouldn't sale. Now that he doing well in sales, yall want to say sales don't matter. You haters have to make up your minds. I really don't think sales mean that you are a good artist or not. Us cole fans would not bring up sales if yall didn't say he would never sale or be a star. Yall haters seem mad that yall were wrong.

 

[Bezerk]

lol at the faux psychoanalysis of J. Cole fans.

Its hilarious how rap fans/critics try to shame you into liking/disliking music.

If you don't like this your this.....
if your a fan of this your this......

 

[x2y]

I like Cole but the write up is on point. he isn't great yet and he doesn't suck either he just kinda is at the moment.

 

[Danie84]

What makes him mediocre to me, is his supposed "stellar production" sounding flimsier than sound click producers

 

[Professor Polo]

J. Cole... the truth!


Born Sinner biiiiitches


Stay mad

 

[blackslash]

He says Cole dont rap about others? Cant create characters? Relay others feelings? What about these tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofXKwpiVqc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6WThN_5GQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYs5QkAbEUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX8IOdi0Gl8



I could go on too.

Secondly, since when does being a mainly introspective rapper make you a lesser lyricist? Isnt being able to bring ppl inside your mind and give them a tour of your soul a highly valuable skill?

Undermining a great album like Born Sinner on the basis that it doesn't meet your senseless and single arbitrary criterion for what "real lyricism" is is stupid. This *** jus sounds like an old *** new skool rappers hater to me.

Lol at bashing this guy for being self-absorbed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQTOu3_E3FU

And then recognizing Jay-Z as one of the GOATs(rightfully so) at the same time... contradictory much?

Well difference is as someone already pointed out..Jay had the skill(mic presence, flow, and image) to be that kind of rapper

Cole doesnt..which leaves alot of ppl being bored by his music

 

[Sugar]

Napolean stays dropping platnium J. Cole hate threads

 

[blackslash]

Everything you just said sounds like hate to me. Breh their is a lot of rappers I don't like that people say are nice. I just don't listen to their music. I'm a cole fan and I never said he was the best rapper or nothing like that. I just say I like his music. And the reason cole fans bring up sales is because the haters said he wouldn't sale. Now that he doing well in sales, yall want to say sales don't matter. You haters have to make up your minds. I really don't think sales mean that you are a good artist or not. Us cole fans would not bring up sales if yall didn't say he would never sale or be a star. Yall haters seem mad that yall were wrong.

Stop bunchin me up with everyone else who critiques Cole..

Its not the sales

This is a hip hop board

If i feel someone is overrating a rapper and giving him titles I feel are unwarranted im gonna make my voice be heard and say that he's trash and doesnt deserve the praise he gets

Its as simple as that

 

[jfkennedy]

yea cause not all nikka drunk dial exes and hate on they boyfriend that not deep nikka, fukk is wrong wit u nikkaz, shyt was simp central(classic, but not deep at all)

like i said drake cant come up wit certain songs cause of his unbringing, thats just not in his upbringing at all

could u even think of hearing this from drake, keep it 100

my manager back in the days was racist
I was a young boy, passing skates and tucking laces
Old perverted white man who told me: "Jermaine
It's all pink on the inside, fukk what color their face is"
Wise words from an indecent man
Made me reflect on the times when we was three-fifths of them
In chains and powerless, brave souls reduced to cowardice
Slaving in the baking sun for hours just
To see the master creep into the shack where your lady at
9 months later got a baby, that's
Not quite what you expected, but you
Refuse to neglect it, cause you
Know your wifey loves you, does you refuse to accept it?
That's that type shyt that tell my granny light-skinned
Rich white man rule the nation still
Only difference is we all slaves now, the chains concealed
In our thoughts, if I follow my heart to save myself
Could I run away from 50 mill like Dave Chappelle?

:kobewut:

Very few give you that truth, it's either they can't do it with lyrics
Or can't do it in spirit, they cancel what they doing
The samples that they using, can't get through the clearing
I'll handle it since they just can't get you to hear it
My father's early careering forced my parents to split up
My mother was a teacher, my father was kind of fed up
With just being a florist, the choir sang his chorus
And he got back into doing what he was doing before us
Because money is an issue, your son he gon miss you
And plus you got a wife at home because mommy still exist too
Now you looking for exes, you ain't never expect this
You end up doing time, and me I end up with a step-sis
Nobody passing judgment, or question where the drugs went
You know I hold you down because without you, I'd be a wasn't
And mommy I'ma support her, I keep it all in order
See her with tears in her eyes or you arrested at the border

This is my life, and so the rest is kinda been cool, question what I been through
I write a verse addressing it, and yes I might offend you
Picture when I was in school,
Me being the closest thing to black, and guess what rap music what I was into
Rest of the kids were sheltered, I never liked to fight
But when someone called me a "******" I'd punch them I couldn't help it
Now I'm grown I can say what it is
It's parents that got these Black and Filipino nannies raising they kids
And your daddy want it very right
I make you happy, plus I'm Jewish, he don't approve, I think he want you to marry white
He want Sinatra at the wedding, not Barry White
Because black is black honey, even if he's very light
And so I never been for dinner at they places
Always brutally honest, and so I pin it to they faces
I live it so the case is, whether Drake is
Way ahead of his time, or inquisitive and racist

 

[A.R.$]

Stop bunchin me up with everyone else who critiques Cole..

Its not the sales

This is a hip hop board

If i feel someone is overrating a rapper and giving him titles I feel are unwarranted im gonna make my voice be heard and say that he's trash and doesnt deserve the praise he gets

Its as simple as that

It as simple as you being a hating ass nikka