Tumblin 'erb: Why is J Cole So mediocre...PRECISELY lays out Cole's flaws

[A.R.$]

I think a big part of the "hate"/criticism is all these inaccurate comparisons to Nas, his huge disparity of quality between retail and mixtapes (which isn't all his fault, but still), and what I and many others see as a lack of entertainment value. He's talented, but he just lacks the "it" factor. And, all of the things that the original article said. Most people I know who don't rock with Cole now, rocked with him HEAVY at some point before this.

I don't like the comparisons to nas either. Cole and Nas are both storytellers but in different ways. Plus Nas is the goat imo. But you shouldn't take that inaccurate comparisons out on Cole. Again the it factor is all an opinion. You may feel he don't have it but many others do. This is why cole fans point out sales. Cole is alot more popular than nikkas in the coli give him credit for. He have to somewhat of an it factor to have the dedicated fan base he has, and the amount of haters he has.
I'm not saying you and others have to like cole. If you don't think he's entertaining fine. But let us cole fans eat.

 

[JasonSJackson]

Because he's a schoolboy from Fayetville North Carolina.

 

[blvckbieber]

Yes, because rappers who are able to rap from a perspective outside of themselves are more imaginative and offer the listener more.

Hip-hop is inherently narcissistic and thrives on competition between MCs, but the lyricists who are more than autobiographers transcend the genre imho.

Writing from the position of someone else is tougher than penning a verse filled with "look at me, I made it fukk the rest".

You're talkin as if J. Cole is not able and doesn't actually do that tho. During his mixtape days Cole's whole thing was telling other people's stories. Weve posted enough tracks to show that.

Born Sinner is Cole's most personal project and the only one centered solely around his demons. You can't judge his entire array of skills and abilities off that alone. And im not puttin Born Sinner down btw, it mite be my fav Cole project actually. But a couple of key things Cole brings to the table were meant to be left off that album.

And to be honest with you, if we're gonna compare Cole and K.dot, I'd say Cole is more creative and diverse as far as the type of stories he tells. I'm not saying he's a better storyteller, but he definitely offers more in that department. Lets be honest, what does Kendrick really talk about besides his usual ghetto life stories? Cole on the hand has tracks that cover people's stories from more walks of life(dreams, rise above, cheer up etc.). If we're gonna talk about who offers more, so far J. Cole has.

 

[Enchanted]

The shyt I find funny though is that a lot of people hate him for being compared to Nas when it was the same people creating those comparisons. Like, you bloggers and people started saying he was he next Nas and got mad and started shytting on his music when couldn't compare. How is that Cole's fault? He didn't come out and start calling himself the next Nas, you guys did and now his music is garbage because he couldn't reach the ridiculously high expectations that YOU set for him?

What if bloggers started calling Chance the Rapper the next Hov. A year or two from now when he isn't meeting those expectations that he didn't choose, is it fair for you to shyt on him?

 

[WEKetchum]

And instead of making him a different type of writer, that makes him a worse one by default?

Worse? Nah. But maybe...less impressive? In sports terms, I'd consider what Cole does as a bunch of wide open jump shots, where doing what the other acts do as creating one's own shot or making difficult shots.

Also, I'm not of the "J. Cole is wack" crowd. I think he's good. He's competent, but not great IMO

 

[WEKetchum]

I don't like the comparisons to nas either. Cole and Nas are both storytellers but in different ways. Plus Nas is the goat imo. But you shouldn't take that inaccurate comparisons out on Cole. Again the it factor is all an opinion. You may feel he don't have it but many others do. This is why cole fans point out sales. Cole is alot more popular than nikkas in the coli give him credit for. He have to somewhat of an it factor to have the dedicated fan base he has, and the amount of haters he has.
I'm not saying you and others have to like cole. If you don't think he's entertaining fine. But let us cole fans eat.

Well it's also "we're the new greats" comments when they haven't really made timeless music yet. Again, personal opinion, but I don't see anything from Cole World going down in history as benchmark records in the genre. It's just solid rap songs, nothing more. Just my opinion.

I haven't heard many people say that Cole isn't popular, especially after his first week sales. But Noz and a lot of other people feel that the state of the game, and the way people consume music these days, is more of a factor in how successful he is. Sales don't intrinsically mean quality. Spice Girls has sold over 80 million records worldwide; are they considered great acts, even in pop music?

I'll give Cole the kudos of finding a way to connect with his fans, no hating there. I'll give him kudos as an above average rapper, who has dope mixtapes. But I still think he's overrated. As the writer said, for Cole to put so much into that area of his music, I don't think he delivers that exceptionally.

 

[WEKetchum]

You're talkin as if J. Cole is not able and doesn't actually do that tho. During his mixtape days Cole's whole thing was telling other people's stories. Weve posted enough tracks to show that.

Mind posting those songs here? I didn't see them

 

[MINT]

on point

 

[Ineedmoney504]

cole world

 

[SHAQAVELLI]

J. Cole still mediocre

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

J. Cole still mediocre

Yes

 

[JamesCannon]

I felt like it's a mediocre writeup that multiple coli posters could have done. So in the same way the writer says cole would be cool in a college cypher, the writer would be cool as a message board poster. But, there's nothing special as him as a writer. He's very mediocre and it's a mediocre piece and with all of the mediocrity of a Wale or Cole but none of the success he should G all the way TFO.

 

[45123]

That post could not have been more wrong and nearsighted

 

[ignorethis]

I felt like it's a mediocre writeup that multiple coli posters could have done. So in the same way the writer says cole would be cool in a college cypher, the writer would be cool as a message board poster. But, there's nothing special as him as a writer. He's very mediocre and it's a mediocre piece and with all of the mediocrity of a Wale or Cole but none of the success he should G all the way TFO.

fukk outta here with the Noz slander

 

[JamesCannon]

fukk outta here with the Noz slander

Nas?? I never brought him up let alone slandered him.

One of my fav. artists. But this "writer" I don't even know what publication this is for or who wrote it but what I'm saying the level of writing is not much higher than a message board. Super mediocre. What he say or do that half the coli can't? So then to go say J-Cole's music is mediocre seems very much like some crab in the bucket mess.