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Maggiano's In Chevy Chase Offered An Apology Restaurant apologizes for hosting 'alt-right' meeting
If this response doesn't let you know good and for all how @Aelyas en passant rolls then I don't know what will. These dudes just love exposing themselves.
Notice how he glossed over my question about his support and, let's face it, love of bigotry. Why oh why would anyone do that?
Nice attempt to bait with that 'pro black' bit. That's Forest Whitaker playing Idi Amin by the way.
Look man, it's all just a coincidence that white nationalist are Trump supporters. Can you even prove their white nationlist? Yeah I read in the article that they repeat Nazi lingo and hand signals, but my willful ignorance says that's just MYDIAH PRAHPAGANDEER
I'm a pro-black poster and I'm willing to bet that the media is making up lies about white nationalist and white supremacy
Of course as a black man, my parents told me about their personal experiences with segregation - BUT BENGHAZI!!!!!!
Ive actually looked into the numbers of actual white supremacists out there . . . David duke took only 5% of the vote in his home state
Only about 25,000 Americans are hardcore ideological activists for the white supremacist movement, a tiny fraction of the white population.
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Some 150,000 to 200,000 people subscribe to racist publications, attend their marches and rallies, and donate money.
See ...A publication can accept a letter or opinion from anyone but to hire or make someone a regular they get vetted
The media empire of the modern-day alternative right coalesced around Richard Spencer during his editorship of Taki’s Magazine. In 2010, Spencer founded AlternativeRight.com, which would become a center of alt-right thought.
Alongside other nodes like Steve Sailer’s blog, VDARE and American Renaissance, AlternativeRight.com became a gathering point for an eclectic mix of renegades who objected to the established political consensus in some form or another. All of these websites have been accused of racism.
The native homeland talk and glorification victimization of white people in this post, this literally reads like a /pol/ post or a youtube comment
*Reads quote from 14-year-old-website*
Actual white supremacists =/= "hardcore ideological activists for white supremacy." That's like saying there aren't very many Christians in the United States because only a few of them are "hardcore ideological activists for Christianity." This right here is part of the problem. To any alt-right fakkit, any legitimate accusation of racism is met with, "Well I don't have a paid subscription to the Stormer or march in rallies so it's all good."
You're knowingly and intentionally trying to equate influence in conservative media to a paid position with Fox News or the National Review. That's a nearly impossible standard and you know it. It's also an outright stupid standard considering (1) those entities matter less than ever, and (2) Breitbart knowingly shouted out Richard Spencer as the intellectual father of the alt-right. You know . . . Breitbart? The organization whose CEO is now the second-highest ranking staff member in the Trump administration? The organization that knowingly positioned itself as the voice of the alt-right?
An Establishment Conservative's Guide To The Alt-Right
I mean, is that influential enough for you? Or does he need to argue with Alan Colmes on a weekly basis? Your whole line of argument is bullshyt and based on an arbitrary, nonsensical standard of influence ---that unless he's a paid staffer on a conservative website with a "sizeable following" (whatever that means), that he's not an influential figure in conservative media.
Well, there you go. Arguably the most influential conservative website out there right now called Spencer their daddy. You lose. Good day sir.
Are they actually bigots? No more than death metal devotees in the 80s were actually Satanists. For them, it’s simply a means to fluster their grandparents. Currently, the Grandfather-in-Chief is Republican consultant Rick Wilson, who attracted the attention of this group on Twitter after attacking them as “childless single men who jerk off to anime.”
If you’re this far down the article, you’ll know some of the answers already. For the meme brigade, it’s just about having fun. They have no real problem with race-mixing, homosexuality, or even diverse societies: it’s just fun to watch the mayhem and outrage that erupts when those secular shibboleths are openly mocked. These younger mischief-makers instinctively understand who the authoritarians are and why and how to poke fun at them.
The intellectuals are animated by a similar thrill: after being taken for granted for centuries, they’re the ones who get to pick apart some of the Enlightenment’s dead dogmas.
The 1488ers just hate everyone; fortunately they keep mostly to themselves.
The really interesting members of the alt-right though, and the most numerous, are the natural conservatives. They are perhaps psychologically inclined to be unsettled by threats to western culture from mass immigration and maybe by non-straight relationships. Yet, unlike the 1488ers, the presence of such doesn’t send them into fits of rage. They want to build their homogeneous communities, sure — but they don’t want to commit any pogroms along the way. Indeed, they would prefer non-violent solutions.
They’re also aware that there are millions of people who don’t share their inclinations. These are the instinctive liberals, the second half of Haidt’s psychological map of western polities — the people who are comfortable with diversity, promiscuity, homosexuality, and all other features of the cultural consensus.
Natural conservatives know that a zero-sum battle with this group would end in stalemate or defeat. Their goal is a new consensus, where liberals compromise or at least allow conservative areas of their countries to reject the status quo on race, immigration and gender. Others, especially neoreactionaries, seek exit: a peaceful separation from liberal cultures.
Another, more palatable, interpretation of these memes is that they are clearly racist, but that there is very little sincerity behind them.
The funny thing is, being Millennials, they’re often quite diverse. Just visit a /pol/ thread, where posters’ nationalities are identified with small flags next to their posting IDs. You’ll see flags from the west, the Balkans, Turkey, the Middle East, South America, and even, sometimes, Africa. Everyone on the anonymous board hurls the most vicious slurs and stereotypes each other, but like jocks busting each other’s balls at the college bar, it’s obvious that there’s little real hatred present.
That is, until the 1488ers show up.
THE ‘1488rs’
Anything associated as closely with racism and bigotry as the alternative right will inevitably attract real racists and bigots. Calmer members of the alternative right refer darkly to these people as the “1488ers,” and for all their talk of there being “no enemies to the right,”
it’s clear from the many conversations we’ve had with alt-righters that many would rather the 1488ers didn’t exist.