True Detective - Season 3 (Jan. 13th/Official Thread)

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"Ya high yella bytch!" :damn: Wayne was hard-on-hoes personified.

Y'all notice the horror music at strange parts in the finale? Kept us thinking something fukked up was on the way. I interpreted it to mean that within Wayne's mind those moments were a horror story. The finale didn't show, it told, which is number 1 worst thing you can do. I feel like we will have to rewatch the show in order to really get the story. Ultimately this episode was about reconciliation: reconciliation with Roland, the case, Julie, Amelia and really his family (Henry and Becca). Now the case is solved and he can live the rest of his life as a granddad. I think what's haunting about the episode is we realize that Wayne himself was responsible for not stopping the bad things that happened, by being complicit in being reassigned. In essence, Wayne has to atone for walking away from the story--his sin and eventual salvation. In the end his wife had truly solved it but he was so bitter towards her and angry about himself that he missed it all. Roland told him in the episode that his pride was getting to him. The very last scene the end goes back to the beginning. Time is a loop. The eerie feeling that he was being watched was he himself re-living the story. And so it ends up being a story (his memories) that he must both remember and live at the same time.

Man the scenes were so powerful man in this episode. A couple of times I almost cracked :to:

That scene with Roland sitting in the dirt with only the dog to console him was truly heartbreaking. Of course the dog is a stand in for Tom, and him crying was kind of his inability to say sorry. Essentially the dogs were projections of Tom in Roland's mind. He lived the rest of his life in pain, regret and sorrow for a man he tried to save and couldn't...and so what becomes important is caring for these stray dogs because they are the only way he can keep Tom's spirit alive, as well as love Tom from afar. Very sad, the case fukked up the rest of his life so that he never got married, had kids and little to no friends...and his best friend took 25 years to come back and say sorry. Him begging Wayne to say sorry during that scene on the porch was him expressing his pain over the break up. It really did come off like it would with an old ex girlfriend who cheated on you. I pointed out episodes ago that the writers were trying to depict their partnership as a deeper companionship between two friends. It's possible the scene at the very beginning with Roland trying to kill the fox really did foreshadow Roland's wish that Amelia hadn't come between him.

In the end this show was about a case that affected many people's lives for the better and worse. They gave us the answers about the Purcell case early on because though the case was important, reconciling with the way the case changed their lives is more important.

That's how I see it anyway :pachaha:
 

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You nikkas do this to yourselves every season :russ:

This show is not about M Night twists and it's not about depression porn.

It's about relationships and ultimately, it's about those relationships working out.

But y'all spend two months imagining the most insane shyt that's nowhere even on the radar and get disappointed when it doesn't happen.

I mean you’re right but they executed it semi-poorly. The meat of the story was told thru the exposition at a dinner table.

And that ominous music they were playing at every turn didn’t help
 

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Gotta chew on this a little bit, but I actually really liked that finale. Got some closure, and it was actually kind of moving at points.

Also, I don't believe for a second that Hays actually had a dementia episode outside Julie's house. I might be wrong, but it seems as if he just needed a convenient excuse to actually talk to those two without blowing her cover.
I think it was the one time in his life he decided not to be selfish. He knew who she was and why he was there, but he finally figured it out it’s not all about the case or the job. That’s what his wife and Roland were trying to tell him all of these years.

At least that’s one way of looking at it.
 

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Also and before people start saying Wayne remembered Julie when he drank the water, I disagree. Cuz he handed his son that paper and looked confused and told him he didn’t know what it was.

If he recognized Julie and played it off then he wouldn’t have said that.
 

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Also and before people start saying Wayne remembered Julie when he drank the water, I disagree. Cuz he handed his son that paper and looked confused and told him he didn’t know what it was.

If he recognized Julie and played it off then he wouldn’t have said that.
It’s all up for interpretation but I feel like he didn’t want to take away the peace Julie had in her life. And he knows his son is in bed with the podcast broad.
 

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I think it was the one time in his life he decided not to be selfish. He knew who she was and why he was there, but he finally figured it out it’s not all about the case or the job. That’s what his wife and Roland were trying to tell him all of these years.

At least that’s one way of looking at it.

It's left ambiguous, and I actually quite like that they left that ambiguous, as that scene is where two of this season's major themes converge (memory and the power of storytelling). It's possible that what you said happened, and it's possible that he legitimately did have an episode and forgot why he was here. The way that Pizzolato and Sackheim wrote and directed that scene, as well as the scene where Henry finds the address, looks at it, and simply puts it in his pocket, leaves enough room to read it both ways.

The more I think about this finale, the better I think it is. Mostly because it actually had the courage to do what Season 1's finale completely chickened out on.

Not to mention them completely fukking everyone who wanted a dumb shoot out satiates the troll in me. Good on Pizzolato and company for doing that.
 

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Not reading any posts, just put it on about 20 min ago. That scene with Roland in the bar, even though he short as fukk, it made me believe he could do that shyt. Steven fukkING Dorff is acting his ass off in 2019, THATS CRAZY
So the kids father was the love of Rolands life. That scene in the end with Roland rolling up with the dog on his lap, he looked like Pepper from modern family :lolbron:
 

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I LOVED THE ENDING...
:ahh:BLACK LOVE

:mjlol:ALL YOU WEIRD ASS nikkaS WHO WANTED SOMETHING TO HAPPEN TO HAYES FAMILY....

:mjlol: ROLAND WAS GAY
AND OR IN ON THE COVER UP.


:mjlol:THAT ONE STUPID ASS nikka
WHO SAID HENRY WAS PRETENDING TO BE HAYES SON....

:mjlol:ALSO SAID WE HAD TO SEE HARRIS KILL TOM
AND LUCY TO KNOW HE DID IT.

:mjlol: SO MANY STUPID ASS THEORIES IN THIS THREAD
WHEN EVERYTHING WAS CUT AND DRIED.
:devil:
:evil:

 

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"Ya high yella bytch!" :damn: Wayne was hard-on-hoes personified.

Y'all notice the horror music at strange parts in the finale? Kept us thinking something fukked up was on the way. I interpreted it to mean that within Wayne's mind those moments were a horror story. The finale didn't show, it told, which is number 1 worst thing you can do. I feel like we will have to rewatch the show in order to really get the story. Ultimately this episode was about reconciliation: reconciliation with Roland, the case, Julie, Amelia and really his family (Henry and Becca). Now the case is solved and he can live the rest of his life as a granddad. I think what's haunting about the episode is we realize that Wayne himself was responsible for not stopping the bad things that happened, by being complicit in being reassigned. In essence, Wayne has to atone for walking away from the story--his sin and eventual salvation. In the end his wife had truly solved it but he was so bitter towards her and angry about himself that he missed it all. Roland told him in the episode that his pride was getting to him. The very last scene the end goes back to the beginning. Time is a loop. The eerie feeling that he was being watched was he himself re-living the story. And so it ends up being a story (his memories) that he must both remember and live at the same time.

Man the scenes were so powerful man in this episode. A couple of times I almost cracked :to:

That scene with Roland sitting in the dirt with only the dog to console him was truly heartbreaking. Of course the dog is a stand in for Tom, and him crying was kind of his inability to say sorry. Essentially the dogs were projections of Tom in Roland's mind. He lived the rest of his life in pain, regret and sorrow for a man he tried to save and couldn't...and so what becomes important is caring for these stray dogs because they are the only way he can keep Tom's spirit alive, as well as love Tom from afar. Very sad, the case fukked up the rest of his life so that he never got married, had kids and little to no friends...and his best friend took 25 years to come back and say sorry. Him begging Wayne to say sorry during that scene on the porch was him expressing his pain over the break up. It really did come off like it would with an old ex girlfriend who cheated on you. I pointed out episodes ago that the writers were trying to depict their partnership as a deeper companionship between two friends. It's possible the scene at the very beginning with Roland trying to kill the fox really did foreshadow Roland's wish that Amelia hadn't come between him.

In the end this show was about a case that affected many people's lives for the better and worse. They gave us the answers about the Purcell case early on because though the case was important, reconciling with the way the case changed their lives is more important.

That's how I see it anyway :pachaha:

Yo when did they show that she solved I missed that part. My ADD was probably kicking in :pachaha:
 
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