True Detective Season 1 (NO SPOILERS)

[boskey]

Goddamn. Gotta watch this show live from now on

Embrace the outlaw life, brehs...

 

[jwinfield]

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As far as season 2, I guess they plan on changing out the actors every season. If they do that they should still have Rust and Marty around, even if it's in the back ground for a few scenes.

Nah.

I'd prefer the seasons to be completely unrelated to previous ones, have them in different locales, eras, etc...

 

[hex]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_in_Yellow

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/2014/01/true_detective_weirdness.php

That's a page from the murdered woman's diary, right next to a reference to the "Yellow King." For those not into turn of the (20th) century horror lit, "The King in Yellow" refers to a collection of short stories written by Robert W. Chambers. Released in 1895, all the stories revolve around a fictional play ("The King in Yellow") which drives those who read it insane. "Carcosa" is a setting in the play, and was borrowed by Chambers from the Ambrose Bierce short story "An Inhabitant of Carcosa." Both writers were influences on H.P. Lovecraft, who you hopefully *have* heard of.

Fred.

 

[hex]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcosa

Along the shore the cloud waves break,
The twin suns sink behind the lake,
The shadows lengthen
In Carcosa.
Strange is the night where black stars rise,
And strange moons circle through the skies,
But stranger still is
Lost Carcosa.
Songs that the Hyades shall sing,
Where flap the tatters of the King,
Must die unheard in
Dim Carcosa.
Song of my soul, my voice is dead,
Die thou, unsung, as tears unshed
Shall dry and die in
Lost Carcosa.

Fred.

 

[hex]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inhabitant_of_Carcosa

A man from the city of Carcosa, contemplating the words of the philosopher "Hali" concerning the nature of death, wanders through an unfamiliar wilderness. He knows not how he came there, but recalls that he was sick in bed. He worries that he has wandered out of doors in a state of insensibility. He calms himself as he surveys his surroundings. He is aware that it is cold, though he does not exactly feel cold. He comes across a lynx, AN OWL, and a strange man dressed in skins and carrying a torch. For the first time, the man becomes aware that it must be night, though he can see as clear as day. Exploring further, he discovers a copse that was evidently a graveyard of several centuries past. Looking at the stones that once marked graves, he sees his name, the date of his birth, and the date of his death. He then realizes that he is dead, and is amidst the ruins of the "ancient and famous city of Carcosa." A footnote at the end of the story states, "Such are the facts imparted to the medium Bayrolles by the spirit Hoseib Alar Robardin."

Fred.

 

[obarth]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_in_Yellow

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/2014/01/true_detective_weirdness.php





Fred.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcosa




Fred.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inhabitant_of_Carcosa

Fred.

 

[obarth]

But really, this series is almost like a horror-noir. The Carcosa comparison is an apt one. The Louisiana/Texas backdrop is bleak and depressing. A ton of blacks, blues and greys as far as the color palette. Rainy, cloudy. The people we meet seem soulless and just wandering. The most alive person on the whole show is the guy who hates lifeIf it wouldn't be corny and completely ruin the show, I'd believe everyone is already dead

 

[hex]

But really, this series is almost like a horror-noir. The Carcosa comparison is an apt one. The Louisiana/Texas backdrop is bleak and depressing. A ton of blacks, blues and greys as far as the color palette. Rainy, cloudy. The people we meet seem soulless and just wandering. The most alive person on the whole show is the guy who hates lifeIf it wouldn't be corny and completely ruin the show, I'd believe everyone is already dead

I'm a HUGE fan of Lovecraft so this is all cool as hell to me. Hastur, one of the Great Old Ones, has an avatar called The King In Yellow as well:

The Great Old Ones are ancient creatures of immense power. Most are also colossal in size. They are worshipped by deranged human cults, as well as by most of the non-human races of the mythos. The Great Old Ones are currently imprisoned—a few beneath the sea, some inside the Earth, and still others in distant planetary systems (and beyond). The reason for their captivity is not known, though there are two prevailing theories: They were sequestered by the Elder Gods for committing past transgressions, or they are sealed off somehow from the rest of the universe by their own volition.

Not saying this show is gonna turn into some crazy cosmic horror shyt but the creator Nic Pizzolatto has referenced Lovecraft in interviews before:

http://www.arkhamdigest.com/2014/01/interview-nic-pizzolatto-creatorwriter.html

That influence is, like everything in True Detective, part of a whole-earth catalog of cultural obsessions, including my own. If your character conveys a vision of cosmic horror, it felt appropriate for me to dramatize the Lovecraftian sense of madness, of a carnivorous universe in which you’re food. And Cohle’s attitude is similar to things Lovecraft said (and Cioran, and Schopenhauer), though we can see Cohle would have a substantial confirmation-bias based on his life story.

The stick lattices are actually things I discovered in researching early Megalith cultures and the mound-builders in Louisiana, but I discovered Wagner’s story and then it seemed even more appropriate to the kind of subconscious cultural associations the killer creates, the atavistic dread that the show tries to transmit. I suppose what drew me to these elements were the show’s themes and characters, and my own interests, which to be fair are pretty broad and discursive. And no one told me I couldn’t do it, you know? If these things are all appropriate to the story and its themes and they can be incorporated organically and become an authentic part of the story, why not? Why not mash these influences together? Provided it’s in a way that doesn’t betray or lead astray the governing genre being served.

Fred.

 

[BigSteve]

That would explain why MM was totally onboard

If anyone wants to talk about space and time, it's Matty Mac

 

[Francis White]

You cats are wilding with some of these actor suggestions. Denzel and Sam Jack is probably waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of HBO's price range.

Fred.

Not at all, beside the avenger movies what is Sam doing? You just had Pacino playing Ronnie Spector . Kurt Douglas and Matt Damon in Liberace movie. HBO has money, they can afford it .

 

[hex]

Not at all, beside the avenger movies what is Sam doing? You just had Pacino playing Ronnie Spector . Kurt Douglas and Matt Damon in Liberace movie. HBO has money, they can afford it .

"Behind The Candelabra" cost $25 mill and was less than two hours long. The Phil Spector movie cost $13 mill and was 90 minutes. None of these guys are gonna sign for less money but more work.

Fred.

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

Damn I'm still waiting for it to end so I can binge watch. Is it that piff?

 

[pete clemenza]

[drinks]
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[snorts meth]
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[freebases]
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[smokes cig]
[checks pulse] "good to go"

I died when dude checked his pulse.. I was like how is dude still standin' or alive for that matter?

 

[hex]

Damn I'm still waiting for it to end so I can binge watch. Is it that piff?

Fred.

 

[ECA]

That 6 minute tracking shot