True Detective Season 1 (NO SPOILERS)

[Spree At Last]

That's another reason I think Marty was up to something. It didn't really make any sense. After he saw Rust going down the bayou he immediately drove to a location within 90 seconds of the project where the home invasion would be happening :obarth:

marty was following along with the police radio... presumably there was a report of the shootout on there and marty figured rust was involved so he drove over there. still kinda suspect tho

 

[Ari Gold Bawse]

has anyone ever won a oscar then a emmy back to back

matty da gawd is about to make history

 

[hex]

marty was following along with the police radio... presumably there was a report of the shootout on there and marty figured rust was involved so he drove over there. still kinda suspect tho

Doesn't really make sense. The last time Marty saw Rust was at the bar, on the boat. He wasn't told where to go, there was no way he could even know about the rednecks pulling the heist because that happened while Rust was with them. So prior to Rust calling him, he'd have no reason to be in the area, or assume a shoot out in the hood involved Rust.

If that's what happened I'll chalk it up to some TV shyt. You know, coincidences happening to move the plot along. But I just figured I missed something, because I watched it right before I went to bed.

Fred.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Doesn't really make sense. The last time Marty saw Rust was at the bar, on the boat. He wasn't told where to go, there was no way he could even know about the rednecks pulling the heist because that happened while Rust was with them. So prior to Rust calling him, he'd have no reason to be in the area, or assume a shoot out in the hood involved Rust.

If that's what happened I'll chalk it up to some TV shyt. You know, coincidences happening to move the plot along. But I just figured I missed something, because I watched it right before I went to bed.

Fred.

uh, didnt rust call marty and tell him exactly what street to meet him on during the shootout?

 

[hex]

uh, didnt rust call marty and tell him exactly what street to meet him on during the shootout?

Yes, but how would Marty be close enough to be there in 90 seconds? The last time he seen him was on the boat.

Fred.

 

[Diunx]

 

[pete clemenza]

Yes, but how would Marty be close enough to be there in 90 seconds? The last time he seen him was on the boat.

Fred.

Like you said.. Might just have to chalk that one up to coincidence for story purposes.

-That cult sounds creepy as fukk. Can't wait till they expose them

-Matthew is killing that role. Seeing him sittin there lookin like shyt with those tall cans of cheap beer, flask, and cigarettes looks way to real

-didn't know there's only 4 episodes left. Thought it was a typical 13 episode season. That's a good thing. No filler episodes.

 

[Food Mane]

Yes, but how would Marty be close enough to be there in 90 seconds? The last time he seen him was on the boat.

Fred.

I'm wondering if most of what we saw in episode 4 was Marty's version of events. Some semi-ridiculous things happened:

• Marty connecting the iron crusaders to ledoux
• Marty being able to show up to the hood in 90 seconds

From what I have seen of the show, the writers aren't dumb enough to think these coincidences are plausible. But Marty is for sure dumb enough to think the two cops interviewing him would think they are plausible.

 

[hex]

I'm wondering if most of what we saw in episode 4 was Marty's version of events. Some semi-ridiculous things happened:

• Marty connecting the iron crusaders to ledoux
• Marty being able to show up to the hood in 90 seconds

From what I have seen of the show, the writers aren't dumb enough to think these coincidences are plausible. But Marty is for sure dumb enough to think the two cops interviewing him would think they are plausible.

I dunno breh.

I feel you but if it is some TV shyt, neither of those things are far out enough for me to hold it against the show. Not unless they OD and start doing it every ep.

Fred.

 

[Scottie Drippin]

Doesn't really make sense. The last time Marty saw Rust was at the bar, on the boat. He wasn't told where to go, there was no way he could even know about the rednecks pulling the heist because that happened while Rust was with them. So prior to Rust calling him, he'd have no reason to be in the area, or assume a shoot out in the hood involved Rust.

If that's what happened I'll chalk it up to some TV shyt. You know, coincidences happening to move the plot along. But I just figured I missed something, because I watched it right before I went to bed.

Fred.

Didn't Rust, when he hands him the cellphone/scanner, tell him what city to head to and to listen out for anything that sounds like troube? When Marty his on the highway, he gets off at an exit that was definitely mentioned before. Rust, when he does make that call, would have trusted in Marty being in the town he told him to be in and also already racing towards the scene.

 

[lutha]

Doesn't really make sense. The last time Marty saw Rust was at the bar, on the boat. He wasn't told where to go, there was no way he could even know about the rednecks pulling the heist because that happened while Rust was with them. So prior to Rust calling him, he'd have no reason to be in the area, or assume a shoot out in the hood involved Rust.

If that's what happened I'll chalk it up to some TV shyt. You know, coincidences happening to move the plot along. But I just figured I missed something, because I watched it right before I went to bed.

Fred.

rewatch it, rust told marty where to go, meaning what city to be in...he also told him to listen to the police scanners of said city....so i figure, that city they were in is only so big, so marty being there that fast isnt that hard...rust even knew how long it shouldve taken him, cause he gave him a specific time to be there....

 

[lutha]

what's with you cats asking if we think we've figured out the plot or that we're ruining it by talking about the show?....i can only speak for myself, but i'm not doing that shyt...i'm talking about the show cause i dig the show...i'm not concerned with figuring out who the killer is, how it goes, etc. i'm just speculating/throwing shyt out cause i'm really enjoying the show, so i'm engaging with others that dig the show too...

 

[hex]

Didn't Rust, when he hands him the cellphone/scanner, tell him what city to head to and to listen out for anything that sounds like troube? When Marty his on the highway, he gets off at an exit that was definitely mentioned before. Rust, when he does make that call, would have trusted in Marty being in the town he told him to be in and also already racing towards the scene.

rewatch it, rust told marty where to go, meaning what city to be in...he also told him to listen to the police scanners of said city....so i figure, that city they were in is only so big, so marty being there that fast isnt that hard...rust even knew how long it shouldve taken him, cause he gave him a specific time to be there....

He said Beaumont which is where the bar was. He didn't narrow it down after that. Beaumont, Texas is not small enough to randomly get somewhere within 90 seconds.

Also why would he tie a shoot out in the middle of the hood to Rust? The heist was some spur of the moment shyt.

Anyway, it's whatever. Still a great episode.

Fred.

 

[jay211]

How did Walt poison Brock? I think we can give the writers a pass. We've accepted leaps in logic in our TV series before.

 

[lutha]

I agree with all my television brehs that a focus on absurd twists isn't the way to watch a show. But, timeout my dudes! We are a watching a show filled with deliberate misdirection. We are forced to constantly evaluate the veracity of what we are seeing:

Is 2013 Rust telling the truth?
Is 1993 Rust telling the truth?
Is 2013 Marty telling the truth?
Is 1993 Rust telling the truth?

When we see certain scenes they are obviously directly what Rust or Marty is telling the two cops (the show's first scene for example), but some other scenes are Marty's memories (kicking down his jumpoff door), Rust's memories (sniffing coke with bikers) that the cops clearly don't know about. How much can we trust those memories? They can be distorted or they can be outright fiction. I don't really care what the writer says in interviews, he is playing a bit of Usual Suspects with us.

i think they all are telling the truth, meaning both past/present rust/marty...from what we've seen so far, the only one that feels the need to lie is marty, but that's only in regard to his wife knowing about his side piece...other then that, both these cats are straight shooters...now, they both are lying about how they got the info to get to reggie because they did some illegal shyt, but both are still sticking to the same story, which tells us something....

side note: after reading what the writer said, and thinking about the show, i think he's given us hints that the show is a lil more straight forward then we think...one line in particular comes to mind: when marty is in the present talking to the 2 cops, he says something like 'you know when the clues are right in front of you, under your nose, in your own house, but you're busy looking elsewhere you miss them'....i think that's what's happening with us, the viewers....for the last however many years, we've been used to getting a twist thrown in when it comes to plots/stories, that if someone was to come along and give us a straight forward story, we'd probably miss what was being laid in front of us cause we've been conditioned to expect a twist...perfect ex: m night....he got his fame cause of the twist in his movies...so people looked at his movies thinking about a twist, looking for clues, etc....then the one time he doesnt do a twist, 'lady in the water', people were confused cause there wasnt a twist, it was straight forward story...