True Detective Season 1 (NO SPOILERS)

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I think that we can agree on that the show needed about two more episodes to at least answer some of the mythology and maybe expose a figure or two. It was like they were just getting warmed up all over again.
 

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:wow: i haven't skimmed through the last few pages , but knowing the coli brehs am sure someone is complaining about he finale, but that is about as GREAT of a finale as you can ask for a show fukin 10/10 , they set the bar high for next season
 

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great finale brehs, powerful shyt. Imma miss these dudes. I'd watch a season of them recovering from their wounds, just sitting around the house talking shyt to each other
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loved that back and forth in the end at the hospital. everyone loves rust but marty is a cool dude youd wanna have a beer with (nh) , despite being a dirtbag
 

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:wow: i haven't skimmed through the last few pages , but knowing the coli brehs am sure someone is complaining about he finale, but that is about as GREAT of a finale as you can ask for a show fukin 10/10 , they set the bar high for next season
people complain that rust should've died or it just should've been more unconventional but fukk that. I love that Rust gets another opportunity to live his life in the light. Deep down, he was a really good person who got a bad roll of the dice that sent him in a downward spiral emotionally/philosophically.
 

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loved that back and forth in the end at the hospital. everyone loves rust but marty is a cool dude youd wanna have a beer with (nh) , despite being a dirtbag
I think Marty learned from his mistakes in the end, obviously he learned it by losing everything though.
 

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I think that we can agree on that the show needed about two more episodes to at least answer some of the mythology and maybe expose a figure or two. It was like they were just getting warmed up all over again.


Errol deserved an episode to himself in my opinion towards the end. The finale wasn't enough. That dude was a sick, fukked up character for real but he was much more intelligent than I thought he would have been given his prior two scenes on the lawnmower.
 

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I think that we can agree on that the show needed about two more episodes to at least answer some of the mythology and maybe expose a figure or two. It was like they were just getting warmed up all over again.
Like what? Who the Yellow King was?

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Couple things:

1. Read an interview earlier, Nic Pizzolatto was a novelist before he wrote for TV, and he retains the literary rights to the characters of "True Detective". So expect some Rust and Marty novels in the future.

2. Someone earlier....I think it might've been @GoldenGlove....asked if the green house was actually shown earlier in the season.

It was, in episode 2, when they're going around questioning people in '95. Rust actually does take a picture of the freshly painted house towards the end of the ep:

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Fred.
 

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And that is what True Detective built itself to be on a collision course with - and what is represented by the "Yellow King," a play so horrifying it ruins its audience - "the horror, the horror."

:manny:
I hesitate to wade into this discussion of the finale because the shyt seems contentious already, but fukk it...

I kind of liked it. I definitely didn't love it. Of the 8 episodes this ranked near the bottom for me.

There's a cliche, annoying phrase people use in writing classes when assessing short fiction: did this story earn its ending? I didn't think what I saw in episode 8 was a natural extension of or conclusion to what we'd seen over the season's build up. That's not saying the episode was wack or the show is somehow now a letdown, so sheath your knives, zealots.

One major issue for me was pace. The pace of the entire show, of life in rural Lousiana, of the characters' lives was an enjoyably slow, messy burn. The final episode felt quick and neat. I was worried about that after episode 7, because, shyt, how the fukk can you tie up so much we've obsessed over in one hour. Of course you can't, and the point of the show is that it reflects the nature of the human experience, where loose ends are more prominent in a life than closure... But still, I wanted at least a bit more. Maybe an extra half hour would've allowed for that.

Anyway, yeah, the green paint seemed like a cheap trick to bridge an impasse.The serial killer was dope, accents were great, house was creepy - but I wanted better than a standard "chase the killer into his lair" scene. The vicious stabbing and resultant "cliffhanger" as to whether Rust lives felt hackneyed, as did the last-second headshot. Throw in the tender moment outside the hospital (and yes, Matty Mac killed that scene, no doubt, he was on fire) and the final line about the light... Suddenly a show that hooked me by operating outside of conventions shrunk itself to fit comfortably within them.

I flashed back to the movie Se7en a lot while watching this season. Both have distinctive cinematography, that slow burn pace, a tense partnership between two compelling detectives, one more impulsive and hotheaded, the other more world-weary and prone to philosophizing about human nature and the ugliness of the world. To make this as simple and succinct as possible: True Detective, for whatever reason, didn't put the head in the box.

If there's no head in the box, and somehow they catch Spacey's character, we get the traditional hero moment, I guess. Or if Brad Pitt's character doesn't shoot Spacey... Whatever the case, the movie ends with Brad Pitt having quite literally stared into the face of evil, into the horror, and being forever ruined by it. Morgan Freeman maintains his ethics and his wisdom but he is also profoundly changed. "The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for." Freeman's character will only concede the latter half. And that is what True Detective built itself to be on a collision course with - and what is represented by the "Yellow King," a play so horrifying it ruins its audience - "the horror, the horror." The world as worth fighting for, sure - but not the world in which light is gaining on dark and quasi-religious epiphanies restore a man to some existential equilibrium. Instead of ruin, we get redemption. And that felt like a capitulation to tastes dictated by convention, not a conclusion worthy of all the scenes that built on each other to reach that point.

All that said, I thoroughly enjoyed the show. I agree with Mel though, that it was on the brink of being transcendent, but ended up being an excellent show instead. Which isn't the worst thing one can say about a program.

:manny:

You are bang on with the heart of darkness stuff and you write with a beautiful, casual tone. No homo. :whew:
 

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I just hope they stick to cases like these. shyt they can tie this case up with next season and make it an international case with the catholic church being tied in.


Just plz plz dont steer into your typical crime TV drama show. This did not have that vibe at all.

he's said that each season will be some type of investigation, but it's not necessarily gonna be cops
 

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Did they ever explain the discrepancies betweeen the year book photos? One was in the show, the other was posted on the TD facebook page, yet Rust's wall had pictures from both? I think most of us came to the conclusion it was a production fukk up.

it was to show the cover up that was happening...all the shyt being done by the sam tuttle offspring was being covered up...
 

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wait

am I trippen? didnt the senator get blasted all over the news for being family related to the killer? Because Rust was in a coma and he told the sniper to send off the video evidence if he didnt hear from him in 24 hours (which he did send them off cause again, Rust was in a coma)

They also dug up dozens of bodies of missing people that we never heard of before..

How more sad do yall want the show to end ? :heh:

exactly...I just finished catching up on the thread and people talking about it was a bad ending, what the fukk did they want?...the rest of the tuttle clan got away; they discovered more bodies; and the fukked up shyt going on in that cult will continue...it's like people just wanted rust to blow his brains out after they caught lawnmower man and for marty to die somehow...why?...speaking about rust, he was figuralivty dead for the whole fukking season...he didn't start to live again until after he got out a coma...
 
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