True Detective Season 1 (NO SPOILERS)

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just seein Errol in that last episode on some creepy, demented shyt reminded me of how good these people are at their craft. lol the whole time I'm just like "I can't even believe that's fukkin Remus from B.E"....
 

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I just watched Ep. 8 again. Am I the only one that was surprised ole girl was alive at the end? I thought for sure Marty ended her.

Also, to the complaints of them not getting the Tuttles, Marty said it best when Rust said they didn't get 'em all: "That ain't the kinda world it is. But we got ours." Amen to that.

Also, I knew right away what Marty's "gift" to Rust was outside the hospital. Meaningless yes, but I just wanted to let y'all know that I knew. :youngsabo:
 

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Great finale, great final season. Errol is one fukked up villain. Could you imagine the funk coming from that shack. :scusthov:
Could you imagine him, Reggie and Dewall hunting you thru that damn maze while you blind folded with a crown of antlers on your head? You a little kid also, these were some sick men and all where tall and huge ready to put in work at a moments notice. Grown must have fell back when running into these sickos. Rust and Marty didn't have shook hands when they were going into Carcosa , I would have fell back as soon he said follow me little priest. Hands down those were the sickest villains on tv.
 

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Now my 2 cents.

No offense to anybody but it seems like 90% of the people that have problems with the finale, didn't understand the type of story they were being told. It's the same shyt with Rust. People misinterpreted the character. That should be blatantly obvious now, given the last scene.

And t's not on some :krs: "this story is so deep you don't get it!". More like, I tried to tell cats this was a Lovecraft story 50+ pages ago. I literally said "there will be little to no resolution" and "they will stop the lawnmower cat, but the cult will largely be unaffected by it".

Am I that smart?. No, I just knew what type of story was being told.

In these types of stories the universe is at best indifferent, at worst downright malicious to it's heroes. They aren't owed anything in these types of stories. Least of all resolution or victory.

As much as Pizzolatto name-dropped Liggoti and Lovecraft I'm shocked Marty and Rust are still alive. So the complaint of :ld: "well, they didn't resolve the larger cult issue" is :heh:

So yeah....I loved the finale. Would it have been :krs: if Maggie got real close and whispered "welcome to Carcosa" in Marty's ear in the hospital...of course....but there was no way in hell any kind of off the wall twist was going to happen, given the framework of the story in the last 2-3 episodes. And if you notice, that's when "oh, this show fell off" started. I see critics (and people in this thread) talking about "oh, he decided on a conventional ending" like that's a bad thing.

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I'm sure one of you can answer this, but...

After they got the info from the captain off the boat, they go back to Marty's PI office and start examining the evidence. They have the pictures pinned on the wall, and Marty asks, "Why the green ears?"... then they look into the house and the paint job. I went back and watched it, and I know that they said the house pics were from the Dora Lang canvasing photo files, was that house just in the neighborhood? I'm a bit confused as to how that revelation was made that the guy they were after may have painted that house. That part went over my head.
Anybody???
 

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I wonder if next season will play off this one.
I can kinda see the two black detectives working this and going after the cult some more
 

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I'm sure one of you can answer this, but...

After they got the info from the captain off the boat, they go back to Marty's PI office and start examining the evidence. They have the pictures pinned on the wall, and Marty asks, "Why the green ears?"... then they look into the house and the paint job. I went back and watched it, and I know that they said the house pics were from the Dora Lang canvasing photo files, was that house just in the neighborhood? I'm a bit confused as to how that revelation was made that the guy they were after may have painted that house. That part went over my head.

Nikka, I going to add to your question, and ask why Rust has a photo of the house in recent times. Nobody is that meticulous, going around taking photos of random houses, unless that house in the next door neighbor of Dora Lane or something.
 

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I think Marty thought about the green paint, and then wondered if maybe the killer had gotten paint on his ears from painting the house. That's how I heard it, anyways.

That absurd pull, and the last-second saving of Marty by a previously incapacitated Rust, where the two moments in the finale...maybe in the show...that were kind of :upsetfavre:

A little too cliche for such an otherwise great show imo.
 
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Now my 2 cents.

No offense to anybody but it seems like 90% of the people that have problems with the finale, didn't understand the type of story they were being told. It's the same shyt with Rust. People misinterpreted e character. That should be blatantly obvious now, given the last scene.

And t'yt? s not on some :krs: "this is so deep you don't get it!". More like, I tried to tel cats this was a Lovecraft story 50+ pages ago. I literally said "there will be little to no resolution" and "they will stop the lawnmower cat, but the cult will largely be unaffected by it".

Am I that smart?. No, I just knew what type of story was being told.

In these types of stories the universe is at best indifferent, at worst downright malicious to it's heroes. They aren't owed anything in these types of stories. Least of all resolution or victory.

As much as Pizzolatto name-dropped Liggoti and Lovecraft I'm shocked Marty and Rust are still alive. So the complaint of :ld: "well, they didn't resolve the larger cult issue" is :heh:

So yeah....I loved the finale. Would it have been :krs: if Maggie got real close and whispered "welcome to Carcosa" in Marty's ear in the hospital...of course....but there was no way in hell any kind of off the wall twist was going to happen, given the framework of the story in the last 2-3 episodes. And if you notice, that's when "oh, this show fell off" started. I see critics (and people in this thread) talking about "oh, he decided on a conventional ending" like that's a bad thing.

Fred.

'Impressive more than likeable' is the phrase that comes to mind after reading your post. This part of the show makes for great study, but less interesting watch.

Now...lets not get it twisted, it was a great watch from start to finish. But to elevate the reality of the last three episodes by explaining that we shouldnt have expected more has a pseudo-intellectual vibe that needs to be toned down.

I mean, what you are essentially saying is "you expected a better ending but you shouldnt have expected that so its OK"

Thats cool that so many people liked the end, but I stand by my statement that the last 3 episodes brought the series down by morphing into a standard detective drama. That doesnt mean standard "quality," it means standard storytelling techniques and a conventional plot.

Furthermore, I keep seeing all this shyt about some sort of "twist" we were expecting but that is a complete Straw Man argument. When we talk about resolution or a better ending, nowhere does that indicate a twist is necessary. It seems to me to be a passive aggressive way to call people stupid by lumping them into the M. Night crowd of viewers.

Truth be told, I am very happy that the story ended conventionally, I just dont think it ended well. I was unconvinced that Rust was in any way accepting of solving the Spaghetti Monster case but not getting any further into it. The scene outside the hospital was touching and powerful but it didnt line up with what we had seen for the previous 20 years in my eyes.

I think some people just dont want to see any criticism of a show they have come to love and be invested in, and I get it. But a lot of the complainers (like myself) still loved the show and would stick it on their top 5 currently running shows just off the strength of the first 5 episodes.
 
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