True Detective Season 1 (NO SPOILERS)

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watched the latest episode, thoughts:

- great episode...it summed up what the series is about: writing and acting, plain and simple....the acting skills of MM and woody, and the writing were in full display from start to finish....and that is what makes this show great...

- to continue on that: the whole back and forth between marty and rust was beautiful...even though it had been 10 years, like how it showed them pick it back up like they hadnt missed a beat...woody and MM act that shyt perfectly.....ex: the exchange about how to get the sheriff to talk:

marty - he aint gonna to talk to you
rust - I got a battery and jumper cables that would argue different
marty - don't start with that shyt

..later on:

marty - yea, get the battery and jumper cables ready cause this muthafukka lying to me

another ex: when marty and rust first got to the storage unit:

rust - what you packing?
marty - 38
rust - ammo?
marty - hollow points
rust - yea, that'll do it

- also, said it before, i'll say it again: they make a hell of a team....they get shyt done...

- think rust gonna kill himself...he hinted at it the whole episode, and that's what the truth was he told marty when they were in the office talking....marty even realized that's what it meant...

- Maggie aint involved....I've seen some talk about why she showed up to talk to rust...that's cause she still care about marty...and that talk he gave her at the house was like a 'goodbye, cause this shyt i'm doing might get me killed' talk....even though she might despise him for cheating on her, he's still the father of her daughters and don't wanna see him get killed....

- that vid was fukked up, all i'm say about that shyt...

- damn, yall were right about lawnmower man being the guy....that initial scene with him felt weird as hell, and now we know why....think when rust realizes who it is, he gonna put some hot lead in his ass....

- and come to find out, it aint a cult, it's a just a fukked up family that was doing all this shyt...

...I cant wait for the last episode...
 

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Thoroughly enjoyed Rust & Marty back at it after their lives had turned to shyt. Seeing Marty with that failing business, and eating that TV-Dinner was such potent ether, brehs :to: That 5 second scene should be enough to convince all the Coli-Players to get married, and stay married. From like 50 on that bachelor life is :flabbynsick:

The fact that Rust was actually just drinking his life away in a bar since 2002 was also depressing. Dude had nothing. Not gonna lie, that burglary scene was a bit :comeon: to me. If there has been any drop off in the last two episodes, for me, its because of some shyt like that. Rust getting his mission impossible on, and that being a major plot point was kind of weak to me.

Still, the greatness of the dynamic between MM and WH is what carried these episodes. Watching how they played their relationship ten year after the falling out was dope to me.

Maggie showing up to the bar seems sort of random. Makes me think she's still somehow involved, not sure on that one.

Last, I'm starting to think spoilers with this show aint that big of a deal. Doesn't look like it's shaping up to have that kind of a mind-blowing ending. Things have been developing in a fairly logical manner, the more interesting developments are between Marty and Rust.....

he wasn't at the bar since 02...he got to the bar in 2010...he was in Alaska till then....

and you shouldn't be surprised at the burglary scene: the man did this shyt for a living at 1 point...just like he was able to take all those drugs and still be on point....like he said: the way he is made him right for the job....
 

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I think the last episodes were below par, because nothing really happened. Nothing really at all. It was all transitioning for the final episode. We learned about what happened to Marty and Rust in the past 10 years and that the lawnmower man was the killer. We didn't learn anything else. It just seemed like an extended montage. I know it needed to be done, but it just seemed like 'easy way out' type writing to me.

There wasn't even really any good character study either. However, Woody did a damn fine job. He out-shined MM this last episode.

The problem is they set these expectations about hidden clues and the cult, and we've learned nothing about them in the last 2 episodes. Nothing. Most people saw the lawnmower man shyt a mile away. That wasn't new. I dunno, I felt like nothing happened but atmosphere. :yeshrug:

I guess I don't see what has been planted that they couldn't have shown in 10 minutes. I wanted more stuff about the cult, etc. They just set up shyt for a confrontation with the cult in the final episode. We didn't get anymore lore or back story or anything like that. I was really enjoying that shyt. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised, but I don't think really anything, except for the bare essentials (this is the monster and this sheriff is in on it), was planted these past 2 episodes. Like I said before, it just seemed like one big montage to transition from point A to B. I wanted more style and twists and turns. Not the straight line they gave us.

Admittedly, my expectations are sky high for this show though

Nothing happened?

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Eh....I feel you but at the same time you gotta understand most people aren't like us. Most people didn't see the lawnmower man shyt from a mile away. Most people on message boards seen that shyt from a mile away, but like I said people have been throwing shyt at a wall since the first episode. Think about how many theories have been wrong vs the handful that were right.

I've yet to talk to a person that doesn't frequent message boards that made the connection that it was the same guy. Despite this being the Golden Age of TV most people watch it the same way they always have. Which is to say, half assed. Especially people around my age. If you've spent the last 30+ years watching TV it's hard to acclimate yourself to the intricate story telling that goes on in these prestige dramas. This is a relatively recent trend in TV.

Anyway, a lot happened, just not for us. But we watch the show obsessively, so :manny:

As far as the cult, they don't really need any more lore or back story. I tried to tell cats like 50 pages ago about the Lovecraft shyt, that's obviously what this cult is based on. Especially with the old black woman talking about "Him Who Eats Time"....that's Lovecraft 101. Each of the Great Old Ones has a name and then an unofficial title, IE Nyarlathotep aka The Crawling Chaos, Yigg aka The Father Of Serpents, Yog-Sothoth aka The Lurker At The Threshold, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_deities#Table_of_Great_Old_Ones

Though worshipped by deranged human (and inhuman) cults, these beings are generally imprisoned or restricted in their ability to interact with most people (beneath the sea, inside the Earth, in other dimensions, and so on), at least until the hapless protagonist is unwittingly exposed to them.

There is a fukk ton of lore out there that the show gave people in short hand, that's why I tried to explain as much as possible.

Fred.
 
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how do they wrap all this shyt up in one episode?

They won't, I can almost guarantee it. The creator of this show name-drops Lovecraft, Ligotti, Chambers....these stories do not end well, nor do most of them have resolution in the traditional sense of the word. I wouldn't be surprised if Rust and Marty die, take down the lawnmower man, but the larger cult continues to operate. That ending would be 100% inline with the authors this guy mentions.

Fred.
 

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I'm not seeing the hate either. Like I said before, the show moves slow sometimes to build the story/drama, or plant the seeds that will eventually bud, but sometimes the show moves slow because it takes place in Louisiana and that's the mood/tempo that we're supposed to feel.
yeah but how u gonna move slow on the second to last episode on a show that only has these characters for 1 season? This ain't walking dead where u can afford to buy time, entertain me god damn it. If i want to follow a slow ass story with a bunch of investigating I'll turn on tru tv or first 48
 

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Marty seems to be a better detective now that he doesn't have a family. Remember him always going on about detective's curse? His life was full of so much other stuff that he overlooked things. But, now him and Rust are living the same austere ass lifestyle.

goes back to the exchange hart and cole had earlier

"you're obsessive"

"you're obsessive too, just not about the job"

so many great callbacks in this episode i cant even list em all

its also interesting how episode 6 didnt have the errie vibe that
prior eps had, but theyre starting to build it backup for the finale , like theyre rounding out a circle:wow:

time is a flat circle brehs, and it seems MMs circle is almost complete:whoo:
 

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yeah but how u gonna move slow on the second to last episode on a show that only has these characters for 1 season? This ain't walking dead where u can afford to buy time, entertain me god damn it. If i want to follow a slow ass story with a bunch of investigating I'll turn on tru tv or first 48
just wait breh
 

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that bytch is in on it, man. i think that part when marty went to her new place was a kinda flashback moment. plus he was like "thanks for everything...i mean that." i think he was saying goodbye in some way because he & rust already discovered that that SLUUUUUT was in on it in some fashion...whether thru her father or whatever.

she trying to tell marty that rust is guilty somehow. then she wanna show up at the bar to distract rust or whatever...he was like GTFOH SLUUUUT.
:spit:

breh lets not waste anymore time on the maggie theory. i'm ashamed at myself for how much theorizing i've done on her involvement.
 

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One thing I'm curious about is are Ledoux also b*stardized versions of the Tuttle family? Why those two dudes?
 

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not only is maggie not involved, i'm starting to question if marty's daughter was raped by the cult. she did not go to that fukked up school and maggie is not involved so there is no connection btw her and the cult. i think the director was trying to make some parallel btw the sex addict dad (marty) and the sex addict daughter (audrey).
 

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Only complaint/issue I have with lawnmower man is that in both his appearances, he's on a lawnmower. Like they didn't have anything else to make you remember him from his first appearance, so they just put on him on a lawnmower again. The evil cultist, mass murdering rapist, who spends his spare time on a lawnmower mowing various lawns.
 
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